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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by mdijon:
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Originally posted by leo:
But i thought you wanted 'fellowship' Or is that only with like-minded people, in short, a church of your own?

It takes two to fellowship. Personally I would be a bit put off by the possibility of a dusty "it's not a membership club" if I ventured to start a conversation.
So you wouldn't have gone to church much before the year 1920. Up to that time there wasn't coffee after mass. People lived in villages and saw each other every working day so they wouldn't linger after mass.
And all was bucolic and peaceful and People Knew Their Place. [Disappointed]

So the Church Picnic is a 20th Century invention? [Killing me]

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orfeo

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Originally posted by Organ Builder:
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Originally posted by leo:
"The Church is the only society on earth that exists for the benefit of non-members.”

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Originally posted by leo:
The church isn't a membership club.

I put it to you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, that these two statements bear little relationship to each other. If nothing else, it seems quite clear that the good Archbishop did indeed consider the church a society (since he labelled it as such), even if its purpose was not aimed inward.

Seconded. Leo, to take that statement from Temple and turn it into a one-liner suggesting that there's something inherently wrong with Christians wanting to meet Christians is perverse.

Although I also suspect it has something to do with your discovery over the years that a very large number of Christians do NOT want to meet with you. You're making a virtue out of necessity.

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Perpetually Put-Upon, Leo must, even in Hell, instruct us and demonstrate his superior intellect. It's awfully annoying to drop Latin into an otherwise English post - (Lumen Gentium)

And, what please, is CCJ ? I'm ashamed to say that my lumen is feeble, compared to yours, Leo.
See how annoying that is?

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Pb4S, he wasn't dropping Latin into an otherwise English post but making reference to the document of the Second Vatican Council which he was citing as authority for his assertion. He could, of course, cited it in its full translated title but that would have been rather long and no-one uses the translation of its first two words to refer to it. So, here at least, leo must be acquitted of the charge laid against him.

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Martin60
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Hey leo

Merry Christmas mate, and a Happy New Year.

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Originally posted by Trisagion:
So, here at least, leo must be acquitted of the charge laid against him.

I have to say also that, on reflection, giving up on a service that requires hours of preparation and only attracts 30 at a busy time of year when one is a finite resource and getting no support for it is not all that unreasonable.

It was the original brief description that came across as rather arrogant and uncaring.

Likewise there is a reasonable point to be made about the nature of church and fellowship, but that wasn't well captured by a brusque and ill-considered one-liner in all saints.

While I'm on presentational issues, having "jews on our books" does sound unfortunately parallel to "binders full of women".

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Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Hey leo

Merry Christmas mate, and a Happy New Year.

Yeah. Bloody oath.

From me too

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Originally posted by Pearl B4 Swine:
And, what please, is CCJ ?

The Council of Christians and Jews - the oldest interfaith dialogue group in the UK, (in Europe too, i think)

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Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Hey leo

Merry Christmas mate, and a Happy New Year.

Martin, I think I'm in love with you.

Leo, if you don't have much to say on an issue, please don't feel obliged to post on the thread.

An All Saints thread is about support. Discuss the rights and wrongs of church fellowship elsewhere. Adding your waspish comment only serves to make you look sanctimonious.

As I say to my 4th years: "Don't be that guy."

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Hey Mad Cat, I'm in love with me too, but it's not working out.

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Use your left hand.
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Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Hey Mad Cat, I'm in love with me too, but it's not working out.

No surprise there.

For the benefit of recent arrivals (and others it would seem) I had better let you know that romances made in Hell are like those made on holidays (what Americans calll vacations). They just aren't a good idea.

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Originally posted by Tortuf:
Use your left hand.

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Re:

"The church isn't a membership club"

Probably it's true, because lots of churches have no members and rather empty. It should be a membership club in the sense that they need to meet at least some social needs.

I'm not very familiar with Leo, though would note that "twat" around here means "vagina". So he's an excessively moralistic, holier than thou vagina? Define "holier" in this context I think.

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There was once a fairly sensible discussion on the topic of church and relationships, which I think is relevant to the OP in the All Saints thread in which leo made the offending comment.

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Originally posted by no prophet:
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"The church isn't a membership club"

Probably it's true, because lots of churches have no members and rather empty. It should be a membership club in the sense that they need to meet at least some social needs.


I'd imagine that churches that have no members are not actually churches at all but are 'closed buildings'.

And what is a 'membership club', anyway? Many people who go to church have plenty of their social needs met in that way. Whereas I know many clubs that certainly do nothing to meet my social needs, or the needs of many others. First and foremost a church should be what it says it is - the Body of Christ. Which can be two people meeting in a front room on a Tuesday night, or several thousand in a cinema.

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Originally posted by no prophet:

I'm not very familiar with Leo, though would note that "twat" around here means "vagina". So he's an excessively moralistic, holier than thou vagina? Define "holier" in this context I think.

Someone who hasn't cottoned on to the use of terms for genitalia as insults. What a knob.

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Is it worse to be a knob or to be a twat? I can't decide. Oh fuck it.

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Originally posted by Firenze:
Someone who hasn't cottoned on to the use of terms for genitalia as insults. What a knob.

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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by no prophet:

I'm not very familiar with Leo, though would note that "twat" around here means "vagina". So he's an excessively moralistic, holier than thou vagina? Define "holier" in this context I think.

Someone who hasn't cottoned on to the use of terms for genitalia as insults. What a knob.
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Originally posted by leo:
If Christians huddle together as a group of like- minded, where is the mission ?

And where is the support / strength / shared talent etc to enable mission to happen if they don't?

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