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blackbeard
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Socks. Just ordinary cotton socks, as sold in sports shops and elsewhere in packs of about half a dozen. Cover ankles and extend about half way up lower leg. Look much the same as ordinary socks, except are white (to begin with, though a few muddy runs sorts that, are never quite white again even after repeated washing).
Worn with another, thicker, pair, are then good for use with hiking boots too.
Avoid thick seams which can rub.
Not had a problem, though maybe if I got chronic blisters or whatever, would be looking a something a bit more hi tec.
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Snags
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Thanks all for the sock input. Always like to break the taboo on never talking about Socks, Religion or Politics, and where better than on a religious board?
Went out last night in an ancient pair of general sports socks I used to wear for squash, and got on just fine. So <rasp> to Hilly's, and I'll carry on like that until I'm doing enough distance to make it an issue.
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Zappa
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After probably less than 50 kilometres (two more five kms since I last posted, times holding well) my Asics are being cut through by my Old Man Toenails™. This is the second pair of Asics I've had this happen to. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif) Back to Nikes?
Yesterday I ran with bandaids over my toenails. That may help. The sox don't seem to cut through but don't protect the shoes. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Jonah the Whale
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Originally posted by Zappa:
After probably less than 50 kilometres (two more five kms since I last posted, times holding well) my Asics are being cut through by my Old Man Toenails™.
I have the same problem. I found out earlier this year that it is not so much the toenails as a slightly off timing when raising the foot. The big toe comes up a fraction of a second too early. I always go to a proper running shop for my shoes, and they always want to see my previous shoes to see how they have worn, normally to make sure they have the right stiffness to get the pronation/supination thing right. When he saw the hole in the toe he explained how it came about, but more importantly he had a very simple solution. In my new shoes he stuck a patch of material (leather I think) under the place where the hole would be expected to form and I never had any problems with it. The sole wore out in less than six months, but that's another issue. Even if you haven't got a specialist running shop I reckon a regular shoe repair place would help you out.
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Zappa
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Thanks for that - I'll have a chat to them ...
I am also signing up to return to netball umpiring. I've done it for about 18 years, and retired fifteen months ago but ... but ... but ...
Same shoes, different foot movement.
About to run now (with the ferrari alas ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ) with a slightly questionable stomach. I means it's always questionably big, but it's slightly questionable on the inside.
OK .. TMI. I'll let you know how it goes.
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moonlitdoor
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Just seen that Alistair Brownlee ran 29.07 for his 10k in the triathlon. After a swim and a cycle that is rather good. Running to a modest standard yourself makes you realise how fast these athletes are.
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Snags
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Given that he (Brownlee) basically stopped a few yards short, caught his breath, and walked over the line, it's insane. He more or less did the same time as our chap (not Mo!) in the straight 10k.
I used to be vaguely aware that these people were "a bit good", but as a generally non-sporty person it's only since limping around for the last few weeks that I've appreciated just how mental it all is.
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Snags
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Yay! Go me (and go Mrs Snags)! <Humble boast time>
It may have been slow, and to you super-fitties who rattle off 5k in 20 mins, and 10k in 45 mins it may be laughable, but courtesy of the C25K plan I have just jogged for 20 minutes at the end of week 5 without stopping.
OK, it's a bit sad that I'm so pleased about this, particularly given that it equates to probably only about 1.6 miles, but ... I can honestly say I don't think I've ever run/jogged for that amount of time without thinking "Screw this" and walking for a bit.
I'm now actually quite fired up about the remaining 4 weeks, which should see us heading for a 5k in 30 minutes or so.
Woohoo! Slob-jogging!
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Laxton's Superba
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Well doen Snags and Mrs Snags. I know how good it feels, a fantastic sense of achievement. At the beginning of the year I couldn't run for 2 minutes without wanting to throw up, but now I am running reasonably happily for an hour and going for a quarter marathon in September. Who'd a think?
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moonlitdoor
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well done Snags and don't think that better runners would make light of your achievements. I run at work with some guys who are a good deal better than me but they are very encouraging of me and others achieving targets which are easy to them.
What country are you in, Laxton's Superba ? I had never come across a quarter marathon before, I don't think they can be common in the UK, presumably as they are so close in distance to a 10k.
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Laxton's Superba
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I'm in the UK. It is a 10k, pretty much. I think it's just to make you feel good, you know "wow, I did a quarter marathon". It's all about Positive Thinking ho ho ho.
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Thanks folks; have to say it's a bit weird actually looking forward to going for a run ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Laxton Superba - good luck with the quarter marathon (like the positive thinking!). I have a sort-of plan to work up to a 10k once we've got through the build up and are in a pattern of doing 5k three times a week. It'll definitely stop there, though, I haven't the patience for much further.
And as you say, so far the handful of people we've spoken to in RL have been very supportive. Once they get over the shock, of course.
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Laxton's Superba
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I don't have the patience or indeed the time for any more than a 10k. A friend did the London marathon this year and the training just ate up all her time. Plus the idea of running for 4 hours fills me with dread. I get bored, running, quite easily, and as I can't use things in my ears of any kind, it's just the sound of my footsteps and desperate gasps for breath to listen to.
Doing 5k 3 times a week is impressive! In term time I manage one 5k and one 10k sometimes 2 10s but in the holidays I don't get many chances tor un at all.
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Snags
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Well, we'll see if it happens
The programme we're following to get us up to 5k requires 3 outings a week, and they recommend trying to maintain that once you're there. We've had to re-prioritise a few things, but as it's only about 30 minutes of exercise, plus diving the car to/from a secluded spot it's not too bad to fit in. I just watch less shit telly than I used to, which is no bad thing.
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Jonah the Whale
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I'm going through a lean spell at the moment. I usually run about 8 to 12 km, but the last few weeks they have been going badly, taking minutes longer than usual and feeling crap all the way round. The only exceptions are a couple of 5km "races" where I've done better than I expected. I don't know if it's the short distance or the competition aspect that made the difference. Anyway I've decided to cut back a bit, because I think it may be a kind of mental fatigue and getting a bit bored with it or something. I noticed a similar low at the same time last year, but after a couple of weeks enforced break I came back as fit as before.
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moonlitdoor
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Snags have you got from couch to 5k now ? If so well done.
Some guys from my work have been taking part in the Round Norfolk relay this weekend. As the name suggests it is a relay around the edge of the county of Norfolk. It is for teams of 17 and continuous so for some legs people have to run in the dark with head torches, a bit mad really. It seems that they finished 15th out of 50 odd teams. A retired member of their team aged 70 did his 7.5 miles in 56 minutes, I'll be more than happy if I can run 7.5 miles at all when I reach that age.
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Zappa
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Bugger - ran a few 10 kms after that, with the times coming down, but on Tuesday I re-damaged a monkey-muscle (plantaris) that I tore in netball 8 years ago.
It started aching at about the three kilometre mark, so I hobbled round the remaining seven kilometres, at worse than six minutes/kilometre pace. Then I gave myself two days off before running a five k this morning (under six minutes / kilometre but still hobbly-slow).
Now I'm limping again.
Very minor damage, but disappointing. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Laxton's Superba
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Sorry to hear of your inquiry Zappa. Is it a frozen peas job, or does it require more intervention?
I run the furthest I have ever run yesterday - 8.5 miles. Whoop. It took about an hour and a hlaf though, and as I was running with a lady in training for a half marathon I felt pretty good about that.
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Zappa
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Originally posted by Laxton's Superba:
Sorry to hear of your injury Zappa. Is it a frozen peas job, or does it require more intervention?
I run the furthest I have ever run yesterday - 8.5 miles. Whoop. It took about an hour and a half though, and as I was running with a lady in training for a half marathon I felt pretty good about that.
Hard to say, yet. I suspect it will come right.
Well done on the 8.5 ... since my 10 kms is only 6 miles I am in utter awe.
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How embarassing…
This morning I decided that running was for the unadventurous and I would try learning to fly instead. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's rouge who didn't notice that low chain fence running accross the park right at the level of her shin… ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
In my defence, it was dark and I was mostly concentrating on avoiding the mud puddles (it has been very wet here recently). The mud was probably my friend in the end though. If I'd gone flying like that onto hard ground I might really have hurt myself. As it is, I have an impressive bruise and some seriously wounded pride.
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moonlitdoor
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That sounds painful, though there's less embarrassment if you were running alone. Last year I tripped over a paving stone jogging to the start of a 5k race, cutting my knee in the process.
Have you done your half marathon yet ? and Laxton's Superba have you done your quarter ?
I am doing a 10 miles race on Sunday, my longest so far having only done 5 and 10k up to now.
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For swimming, I have a pair of goggles that are roughly my prescription. Not perfect, but inexpensive and so much more helpful than no correction. Does anyone make anything similar for running?
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Jonah the Whale
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I just wear my regular glasses. I never have a major problem. There have been four reasons why I have ever taken them off whilst running:
i) Gale force wind (happened once, I was worried they were going to be blown into the canal)
ii) Heavy rain.
iii) Running fast downhill. Only happens in short bursts when training with a group.
iv) This is the main one - glasses sliding down my nose when I get very sweaty. It just gets irritating having to push them back up every few strides.
There are cords you can get which will keep them in place, but I haven't got round to getting one.
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Jonah the Whale
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moonlitdoor quote:
I am doing a 10 miles race on Sunday, my longest so far having only done 5 and 10k up to now.
Let us know how you get on.
I have signed up for a 15k race next month, so just half a mile shy of 10 miles. The Zevenheuvelenloop is the biggest 15k run in the world, over 30,000 runners, and both WR holders are signed up. I'm starting to get into shape afte a bit of a hiatus, and today I'm doing a local 15k parkrun which I will take easy, if I can.
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Zappa
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Building my swimming back up slowly, gently. The back pain has gone, and the aerobic fitness is fine, but the warm water and air temperatures (water around 30°C, air around 34°C) mean I am tending to cramp around the 2.5 km mark. I'll build up to my standard 3 km asap. Never been this weak before ...
I may start taking potasium, which is supposed to help. It'll be a week or two before I risk running again.
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blackbeard
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Spectacles - I tend to not use them while running as I can find my way around without them, and can (only just) read my digital watch. Maybe I should get a watch with a bigger display. One day.
I have an old pair of specs (previous prescription, hasn't changed much) which I use when sailing as I wouldn't be too upset if they went overboard, but I have a short length of twine going between the ends of the side arms to keep the specs where they should be. So far I haven't lost them. This is also an OK arrangement when running.
If, like me, you just need a little positive correction (ie long sighted) and both eyes are similar, then cheap reading specs from supermarket work well. For about a fiver you can get a lightweight pair with sprung arms which tend to stay where they should be.
I haven't yet found a pair of specs with windscreen wipers.
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Laxton's Superba
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Just done my first half marathon, in 2 hours 14 minutes. I was very pleased with that. It was hard going the last 2 miles but a nice man handing out jelly babies helped a bit. I had only run 9 miles before (only! hahahaha). Got a nice free T-shirt too. Very good atmosphere but extremely cold, my hands and lower arms so cold I couldn't open my bottle of water at the end.
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Jonah the Whale
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Wll done Laxton! Did you enjoy it enough to consider doing it again? I was very happy with my 15k run - 1:10, but most importantly my niggly injury I've had the last couple of months didn't play up. With a bit more preparation plus the race day adrenalin I might get close to 1:07:30 next month, which would be 4:30 per km and my best time for this distance.
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moonlitdoor
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well done Jonah and Laxton's Superba. I was also pleased to complete my 10 miles without injury, as I had to miss a 10k at the start of September with a sore achilles tendon.
I can't remember being cold during a race but once I finished yesterday and the sweat started evaporating I got cold rather quickly.
My race only had 1,600 runners and the start was quite chaotic as everyone around me wanted to run at diferent speeds, so I hope Jonah's race gets people to start in groups according to the time they expect to run, which is a lot more efficent. I spent the first half mile trying to overtake people without impeding them.
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Jonah the Whale
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I hope Jonah's race gets people to start in groups according to the time they expect to run
Yes, this should be the case. Still, the bigger races tend to be quite bunched at the start, despite this. Mind you, it is a lot easier being bunched with people of a similar speed.
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Jonah the Whale
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Thanks JJ.
Just signed up for next year's Rotterdam Marathon again. Meanwhile my 15km run is coming up this weekend. I'm not expecting a PB or anything, but it should be good fun. I have half a dozen or so colleagues who will be running it too, and we are all going there by train. It will be like a school trip.
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Meh. Meh meh meh meeeeeeeeh.
The weather is miserable. I have a cold. I am distinctly undermotivated.
I think I'm going to scale it down a bit, try to keep reasonably fit over the winter and then kick it back up in the Spring.
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moonlitdoor
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We were just saying after our lunchtime run that it is good running weather at the moment. Dry, coldish but not freezing. Easier than the summer when you have a cool shower, get dressed, and then realise you are still hot as the interior heat comes back to the surface.
I got the impression from previous posts that you normally run alone, la vie en rouge, so perhaps join up with some fellow Parisiens/Parisiennes for some extra motivation.
Jonah good luck on Sunday, see if you can get under the 67.30 time. I think it's good to have something to aim for. Mine was to get under 70 minutes for my 10 miles, and it kept me going once it started getting hard. Just managed it, now looking at a half marathon in February. Well, what's another 3 miles between friends ?
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Need some more advice, running people. Is 4 months enough time to train for a half marathon? I did a 10K about 8 months ago, and since then have done a 4 mile run roughly weekly, along with other shorter runs (normally 2 mi) and other forms of exercise each week (swimming, cycling, circuits). I live in the Midwest, so a lot of my winter training would have to be indoor (=boring). Do you think there's enough time for me to get my distance up?
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Jonah the Whale
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Four months should be enough, I would have thought. If you are running 4 miles at the moment you could start upping that by one mile each week. Drop down to a shorter run once a month. So your weekly long runs could be 5-6-7-4 7-8-9-5 9-10-11-6 and then 11-12-13-6, something like that. You can google training schedules and find as many different theories as there are runners, just about. Just pick one that you think suits you in terms of current fitness, amount of time available and very importantly, how motivated you think you'll be able to stay. One thing that nearly everyone agrees on is to cut right back in the final week.
My 15k at the weekend went OK. I realised that I am not at my peak and would not be beating my PB, so I aimed at 70 mins and got just inside that. I was fourth in the mini-competition that I had with my seven colleagues, and around 500th out of the 2500 or so in my age group (old farts).
Now begins the long hard slog of winter, with the Hague half marathon looming in March, and Rotterdam marathon in April. It'll keep me out of mischief. I need to lose a few kilos again though, they've been creeping back on.
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blackbeard
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Originally posted by Hart:
.... Is 4 months enough time to train for a half marathon? ....
Given that you have been doing at least some running and other things meanwhile, then, yes. Even though you may need to allow a bit of slack in case of illness or injury.
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blackbeard
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.... in my age group (old farts).
Ha! A mere youth!
Blackbeard, age 69, is trying to convince himself that running at that age isn't ridiculous. A parkrun (5 km) last Saturday went reasonably well (considering that the summer has been marked by a measure of indolence and various distractions) and I finished ahead of quite a few youngsters but, really, I need to put a bit more work/miles in.
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Jonah the Whale
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Good for you, bearded one. I hope to be still pounding the streets at your age, God willing.
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Jonah the Whale
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More or less on the spur of the moment I signed up a couple of weeks ago for a half marathon, at the urging of a couple of colleagues. It was pretty damp on Saturday, but not too cold or windy and I managed under 1:40 for the first time, so was pretty pleased. It isn't really running season, but with the marathon looming in the spring it will soon be time to put in lots of distance.
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moonlitdoor
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As encouragement to blackbeard the running club of the company I work for has 7 men over 60 who are still active runners. If only we had 7 men under 30. I don't know about it not being the running season, I have been talked into taking part in a cross country race on 12th of January, Surrey League division 4 ( of 4 ).
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