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Jonah the Whale
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I'll admit I'm still trying to understand the rules, but are you certain that is a legal move?
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quote: Originally posted by Jonah the Whale: I'll admit I'm still trying to understand the rules, but are you certain that is a legal move?
[tangent] If you try a move that isn't legal, Chorister will probably remove/eviscerate your post. [/tangent]
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Welease Woderwick
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Legality?
Well, only for ONE Ashford.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Legality?
Well, only for ONE Ashford.
But the Rhyming Rule allows me to play Newcastle-upon-Tyne and that opens up the Tyne and Wear Metro.
Can I point out that since last Summer incorporation of joint preserved/mainline stations results in a redouble. I mention it because neither Keighley nor Grosmont are that far away. As a subsidiary challenge I think it'd be fun to go through both before heading back to That Station.
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kingsfold
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That station?
Leamington Spa
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Starbug
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Casting my mind back to my time at Kelsey Grammar School, I'm sure dear old Miss Fridd of the Lower Fourth taught us gels something called the Lusitania Manouver. Can't remember all the details now, but it involves Threading the jolly old Isle of Wight Needle. Which should bring us out somewhere around
Smallbrook Junction [ 12. November 2012, 16:57: Message edited by: Starbug ]
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alienfromzog
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Yeah [wistful smile] I remember the first time I played when I was just a lad... My Grandfather beat me in 3 moves...(sigh)
Anyways... um... Elephant and Castle
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claret10
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Wow that must have been a very long time ago!! However reminds me of a story my grandfather once told me about Nellie who escaped, however it's a long story and it's packed at the bottom of my trunk. However I do remember it led to the joke 'How do you get an elephant on top of an oak tree?' But i'm sure you all know that one...
So lets go to
Camden Town
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The Weeder
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I have watched with bated breath and the help of an oxygen tent, waiting for this series of moves, which allows be to double de-track over to
Kew Gardens
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Piglet
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Well played, Weeder! It occurs to me that you're almost the first person since my last move to be speaking a language other than Martian.
Sticking with a vaguely horticultural theme, I think Covent Garden for a spot of lunch* wouldn't be a bad idea.
* Porter's English Restaurant - v. good fisherman's pie.
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Ariston
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Fish pie always wins, piglet—always. Which means, well, it's off to the docks to find some fish. Or the wharf. How about Canary Wharf?
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Latchkey Kid
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Which takes me to my Great Aunt's house at
Surrey Docks [ 13. November 2012, 03:29: Message edited by: Latchkey Kid ]
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claret10
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Hmmm a cunning move, however talking of aunt's bizarrely reminds of prisons. So that leads us nicely on to
Holloway Road
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Or it would, were it not for the Wormwood Scrubs Rider which was added to the rules in the wake of the regrettable events at the Wales and West Country quarter-finals back in 1996. Sparing the details, which are well known to all players at any level, and too embarrassing to rehearse amongst non-players, suffice it to say that there are several top level players who nevertheless can't show their face in the Yeovil branch of W H Smiths ever again. The worst thing really was the spilling over of the disagreement into the evening entertainments. Morris Dancing isn't everyone's cup of tea - indeed, it's not mine; the only value I see them having is as unfailing indicator of a good real ale pub - but the fact remains that surgeons took several hours getting that bladder out, and several members of the Minehead Morris Team still jingle whenever nature calls.
Therefore
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Starbug
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Aha, the classic 'marmalade sandwich' move! I have heard mention of this in ancient manuscripts from Darkest Peru.
Notwithstanding, I think we'll take a little wander closer to the Thames. Putney Bridge sounds good.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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If I had a tail it would be wagging.
Subtle misdirection has always been key to the MC game, don't you think? How many times, especially early in our careers, do we find ourselves bearing down on an obvious diagonal only to find ourselves derailed and hurtling down the embankment, only to find our opponent grinning in the signal box?
Incidently, I recently came across a dusty box as I was clearing the attic for insulation to be installed. It was an 1850s edition of Camden Town Tollgate (also known as the Tollgates and Turnpikes Boxed Set, with full set of polyhedral dice and little ivory stagecoaches), which many will know as one of the many 19th century and earlier games which informed the Mornington Crescent Ruleset as it grew up from its humble beginnings in the trenches of the First World War, frequently mistaken by Hun Morse-Tappers for a secret British Army code.
There are some fascinating bits in there about putting Turnpikes in Nidd and spooning horses (ooer! Don't tell the vicar!) that still form part of the modern game.
For example, in this situation, playing Marble Arch
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kingsfold
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And thence, obviously,
Mornington Crescent
And thus we start afresh with
Moor Park [ 13. November 2012, 13:25: Message edited by: kingsfold ]
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Rats. That'll teach me to ruff out the mainline interchanges during the school Autumn Term, won't it?
That makes it the third game in the series, doesn't it? Hence:
Mudchute
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Jonah the Whale
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That was really careless letting Kingsfold in like that - I expected better of you Karl.
Anyway, I think I can play Bank at this point. I'm not aware of the third match in the series making any difference in this respect.
[Edited to embolden Bank] [ 13. November 2012, 13:38: Message edited by: Jonah the Whale ]
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kingsfold
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I don't often get an opportunity like that, so I'm not complaining.
Hmm, we were at Bank. I think we therefore need to head out to Turnham Green
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by kingsfold: I don't often get an opportunity like that, so I'm not complaining.
Hmm, we were at Bank. I think we therefore need to head out to Turnham Green
You can turn 'em any colour you like, but that's still an open invitation to send everyone around the houses via Thurso
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Latchkey Kid
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If we're playing like this then we can't avoid Liverpool Lime Street
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alienfromzog
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quote: Originally posted by Latchkey Kid: If we're playing like this then we can't avoid Liverpool Lime Street
Well, that makes things interesting... It will have to be Oxford Circus seeing as we are playing the famous City Stratagem.*
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*As Everybody knows the City Stratagem involves skipping through London underground stations named for other places... Leicester Square, Oxford Circus etc. However Waterloo is NOT allowed as, whilst it is indeed a place, it was named for a battle and not for the place... Now, to escape the city stratagem and open up the 3 move win one of course needs to play.... Sorry nearly gave the whole thing away then, and I know experienced players would not forgive me for making it so easy for novices... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Starbug
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In the words of the late, great Eric Morecambe,
*cough* Arsenal! *cough*. ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Are we playing MC or a game loosely based thereon?
Can anyone else recall all the "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" letters in the Torygraph a couple of years ago as a result of This Sort Of Thing in the 2006 "Battle of Hastings" finals down in East Sussex?
Come to think of it, creating a few red-faced Major Misunderstanding type characters exploding onto the pages of that blue-rinse rag is actually quite appealing, so perhaps we should try for an aneurysm.
Waunfawr
That'll annoy the hell out of them!
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Latchkey Kid
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Belmont
might calm us all down.
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Piglet
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I observe that LK has introduced a little-known but nonetheless useful gambit - the Hymn Tune Option (1728)* - which obviously leads us to Kilmarnock.
* I know this puts Scottish players at an advantage, and frankly, I don't care.
Over to you, Kingsfold. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Latchkey Kid
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Can Kingsfold find Mornington Crescent? None of the moves I see get us any nearer than
Rugby
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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LK - you could have had a quick victory there; there were diagonal spokes radiating from Kings Cross, which as you know enables you to rumble through north London straight to destination.
But now the spokes are all bent, like my front bike wheel when I went too fast into that underpass in May. However, that does mean I can invoke the similes rule and play
Dronfield
which is interesting, considering we're playing Dronfield variations. At this point one should pause and reflect on the heavy price paid by the Coal Aston Crescentites of recent memory for the furtherance of our noble game. Never, in the field of human gameplay, etc. etc.
Was anyone else up late last night watching Tim Brooke-Taylor and Jack Dee's documentary on the game on one of the more obscure Freeview channels? I had never quite appreciated how important seperating Nidd and Spoon in the 1950s had been to the character of MC as it's played now. The explanation of why Graeme Garden never plays stations on the District Line was illuminating; I do hope his step-uncle twice removed is eventually able to bring himself to travel by trolley-bus again in due course.
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kingsfold
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quote: posted by Latchkey Kid: Can Kingsfold find Mornington Crescent?
Oh, I can most certainly find Mornington Crescent, the only problem is that I can't play it after Karl's move...
Which leaves me in a bit of a dilemma: do I follow up on the the Hymn Tune Option (1728), thus leaving myself opens to accusations of playing fast and loose, or do I try and throw the game into Nidd and discommode the other players. Or is there a more Anglican Via Media?
So, it's going to have to be Lambeth North [ 14. November 2012, 08:48: Message edited by: kingsfold ]
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Don't we have enough religious wars of our own within MC without importing religious religious wars as well?
Of course you can't get to MC after my move; that's rather the point isn't it? I think I can see what you're doing though, and seeing as we're between the Dr Who season and the Christmas Special, it's an obvious time to play
Skaros
I saw this move played at the 70th anniversary of the Dronfield Variations symposium in Leeds some years ago. Everyone shouted "EXTERMINATE" at the tops of their voices as the Norwegian Ois Turgardt played this move.
You had to be there.
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Piglet
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KLB, I find that move a bit skary ...
To avoid immediate extermination, I think Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3 might be the safest option, but as a non-Dr. Who aficionado, I might be as wrong as a big wrong thing.
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kingsfold
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No, it's probably safe as a temporary measure.But I wouldn't hang about there, if I were you.
Hanger Lane on the other hand...
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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...would have been interesting last time we had a MC night down at my local pub. Actually, it was just at the point where someone made exactly this move when a Romanian chap called Pica Dilli nipped off for a call of nature. Suddenly there was a blood-curdling scream from the vicinity of the gents; investigation revealed the most bizarre freak accident involving the wind interfering with the venting in the pubs sewerage system, one of those huge round bog-roll dispensers where the end of the bog roll always disappears inside leaving you scrabbling at the razor-sharp entrance, and the contraceptive machine. Fortunately, Dilli did regain full use of all his body parts in due course. This is what happens when you're concentrating too much on the two-way diagonal reverse shunt and not enough on the task in hand. A warning to us all, but I digress.
Embankment
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Traveller
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Interesting events (and people) at your local, KLB, I wish mine had similar events rather than the interminable quizzes and morris dancing in the street outside.
You carefully don't let on that your Embankment move has left all stations south of the river in Spoon so any careless players could give you a free run, but we are used to such diversionary tactics by now. I was tempted by Osterley, but then remembered the Dronfield Variations could make that very tricky, so I think we have to go the other way.
Hmmm, Stepney Green, I think
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kingsfold
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See, I was wondering if Pica Dilli was related in any was to Pica Lilli, which would have taken the Spoon into entirely new territories. And I did therefore wonder about Baker Street or Pudding Lane (under the 1666 conflagration annotations).
But on the whole, I think Shepherd's Bush Market is probably the better play. [ 15. November 2012, 11:15: Message edited by: kingsfold ]
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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No, nor was he related to the Monopoly Pro Coach at the University of Harouanwiil Stohn, Pica Willi.
This sort of high/low playoff strategy can always be interesting. I don't know if anyone's ever played the LARP version of MC, which involves actually travelling to the stations played and having a drink at the nearest real ale pub to each, but perhaps not, since that rather unfortunate incident involving the famous Finnish pro Uppes Kaletor, who got a little bit excited about playing Stratford low level immediately after Stratford high level and very nearly ended up fricasséed on the live rail. The ban on short cuts was mistakenly taken as applying to the table-top version as well, which has severely hampered attempts to force opponents to meld out around Bank because of the arguments over misunderstandings on this point, but there you go.
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alienfromzog
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The more I read this thread, the more I think that Karl does nothing ever in his life, other than play Mornington Crescent...
Which definitely gives him an unfair advantage. So, it's no more Mr Nice Alien; The yellow gloves are off... time for some really nasty moves.
Earls Court
Get out of that one, if you can!
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kingsfold
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Well of course we can get out of that. It also gives me the opportunity to play
Stoneleigh which I've never been able to do before.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Nah, I just dabble. You should see the real pros; they live and breathe it. I have a few anecdotes over decades; they'd be able to reel of as much from the last few months.
Oh, and Ambergate
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alienfromzog
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Now, Kingsfold, you know that Earls Court to Stoneleigh was ruled Illegal by the 1987 International Mornington Crescent Reality Argument Protocols (IMCRAP) but seeing as Karl has already played...BTW Karl, your 'gifted amateur' act fools no one... so
Kings Cross / St Pancreas
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alienfromzog
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quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: Pawn to King's Bishop 4
Karl. No.
Just No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No.
Nein. Non. Hapanna. Dim.
Just no.
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Ariston
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Actually, yes. I think I can work with that, even if you can't—I'm thinking Boardwalk. AFZ—since you couldn't figure out the Multiform Ludorum Regulations, §§2718, you're going to Jail. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
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alienfromzog
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: Actually, yes. I think I can work with that, even if you can't—I'm thinking Boardwalk. AFZ—since you couldn't figure out the Multiform Ludorum Regulations, §§2718, you're going to Jail. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
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claret10
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Just glancing through appendix 345z of the afore mentioned rules, (yawn) However I find at this point i am generously allowed to offer AFZ a get out of jail card and send us to
Coventry Street
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alienfromzog
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Hmmm, Coventry Street...
That is (perhaps unsurprisingly) the MC equivalent of being sent to Coventry. I'm sorry if that's too literal but it is a tight spot. A difficult place from which to move.
That is indeed a fiendishly clever move - particularly masking it as you do in the cloak of generosity of getting me out of jail. So, as I sat back with my pipe and single malt scotch to consider my next move I found myself remembering one of the darkest times of my life. It was indeed the long dark night of the soul for me.
This is probably not the forum to dwell on, or try to express the anguish and soul-searching that went on that particular night. (Least I think it was night… it was certainly dark.) I found myself stumbling around in the darkness, just longing for some faint glimmer of hope. Nothing more; just a glimmer of hope. As I sat there rocking gently many voices came to me. Most of them seemed to be distant and some way off. The voices said some strange things like “What the Hell are you doing?” or “Get up here now!” I do not know if it makes any sense to try and enquire into the voices that a fractured mind hears (as indeed my mind was fractured) but they did seem to be ridiculous to me. Surely it was obvious what I was doing… I was sitting. In the dark. Similarly was ‘up’ some kind of reference to an improved mood – to maybe even happiness? If so, I would be there in a second if I only knew how. So I eventually taught myself to ignore the voices.
It was then that I finally found some hope, when I had given up believing that hope was indeed possible. A light-at-the-end-of-tunnel if you will. Strangely, I realised said light was indeed a literal light, in a literal tunnel. Of course it took me slightly too long to realise that the old maxim was right… the light at the end of the tunnel is so often the train coming towards you!
In this case, in this literal tunnel, it was – perhaps unsurprisingly, although honesty compels me to admit I was surprised – a literal train. I was truly surprised. This particular literal train was the 0538 from Nottinghill Gate.
As I frantically climbed on to the platform, somehow missing the third rail I learned what I believe to be two very valuable life lessons. Firstly – and less importantly – I learnt that NO ADMITTANCE, DANGER OF DEATH signs do actually mean ‘No admittance’ and ‘Danger of Death.’ I’m not entirely sure how it is possible to know this in advance, but it is certainly clear to me now. Secondly, and a far greater life-lesson, I also acquired some deep wisdom. As I sat there on the platform watching the on-rushing training obscuring the station signs, I realised that when faced with adversity, Bayswater is, and probably always will be, an amazing move in that greatest of games, Mornington Crescent.
AFZ
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