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Source: (consider it) Thread: Trans-Tasman Titillation - vol: 27
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Interestingly we received in our head Office the other day a prayer diary from Deaconess House in Sydney, praying for the people of the Northern Territory. Not one non-Sydney person is named, only the CMS exports. Not even the bishop - who was formerly a rector in the Diocese of Sydney - gets prayed for.


Ahhh... Sydney diocese they never fail to make you feel ashamed of them... [Disappointed]


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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
although TP took a nasty tumble on his walk today
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BL - that's bad news! Ouch - hope all is well.

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(I turned 60 last Saturday)
- Congratulations Rexory! I'm glad that I'm still young enough to fall over!

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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
although TP took a nasty tumble on his walk today

BL, one of the defining things about getting older (I turned 60 last Saturday) is that one no longer "falls over"; one "has a fall". [Frown]
My recommendation, Rexory, is to see
Best Exotic Marigold Hotel. I'm just back from seeing it with friend and we had a good laugh.

If cinemas your way are like the multiplex style over here, you will see what is ahead of you after 60. There's the view put forward with skill in the film and there's what we saw as we entered the small theatre. People being carefully helped down the stairs to their seats and a parking area for walking frames. Local nursing home day out.

Most of the jokes seemed to go over the heads of those behind us, judging by the silence. Or perhaps they felt they could not be seen by friends laughing at some of the jokes. We laughed and laughed. I advise you to take the viewpoint, if not the actions, as shown in the film. You'll also get a good laugh which is therapeutic.

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Loth I came home today intending to go to a 6.30 showing of that film in the next suburb, but it was 5.45, so I missed out. I am now more determined than ever to make it tomorrow. I could have gone at 8pm tonight instead, but I am a bit nervous of being in that suburb alone after dark as ihey have had several rock falls that cut off access.

I was told today that the people managing eathquake recovery here say they are halfway through demolishing the parts of the CBD that need to go. I don't really know how they can say that because buildings once thought to be safe are being declared unsafe every week [Waterworks] .

Outer Mongolia is beginning to look attractive again, despite their funny writing.

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Just got back from some training in a town with the oddest name.
Can you guess then real name of this NSW town?
It's in a region where the prey should beware!
This town is where the unconnected sewerage raps!

If this is too dumb for words- its' cos my brain stopped working during the drive home.

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This town is where the unconnected sewerage raps!

Without looking at the map, the first name which comes to mind is Boggabri.

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Or perhaps WeeWaa.

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It's in the region where the prey needs to beware...
Not neither of them.
Hint- 4-5 hr drive.

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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
although TP took a nasty tumble on his walk today

BL, one of the defining things about getting older (I turned 60 last Saturday) is that one no longer "falls over"; one "has a fall". [Frown]
Well, I tend to "fall flat on my face", and have done several times, and I'll be 80 this year. My bones are obviously solid: I get up, rather awkwardly, and walk away. But I'd hate to fall going down steps; these I negotiate very carefully.

Take care, all.

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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
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Of course the kiwi purple has had a rattle along over the weekend, too ...

??? Sometimes I think I'm living on a desert island.

I think it was last weekend the Diocese of Wellington was meeting to elect a new bishop. Rumours are that a radical choice has been made. No announcements as yet, and A/NZ takes a while - by memory it was about a fortnight before Ross Bay was announced in Auckland.

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Boggabri?

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Bummer ... Loth has tried that. Oh well. Dunnedoo?

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Yes, TP is okay, though sore - he was carrying a 15 kilo pack at the time, because he was on his way home from the grocery store. That's why he fell more heavily than usual. He takes being my house husband very seriously, and now has a list of daily chores to work through!

Meanwhile I am off to Goulburn for 3 days. The car is packed to the gunwales and my checklist looks like this:

9 palm branches, 7 pots of whte chrysanthemums, 2 bunches of lilies, emerald lace greeenery, secateurs, floristry wire, gloves and plastic. Check.

8 new palls, 4 new credence cloths, 3 new mitres, alb and o'night bag. Check.

Rolls of red/gold/blue blue material, blue banners, tassels, altar throws, blue/silver/whilte standing pennants and blue and white standards (for celebrating the Annunciation). Check.

Poles and fittings, fishing line, string, sewing kit, zip ties, hammer and energy drinks. Check.

[Roll Eyes] And I bet I'll have forgotten SOMETHING!! But I will try to take photos....in my 'spare' moments....

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Dunnedoo is good but not it. The rapping or knocking needs addressing yet.

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well there is Rappville, but noone ever went there for anything ...

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quote:
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and A/NZ takes a while - by memory it was about a fortnight before Ross Bay was announced in Auckland.

in fact ... from the diocesan website ...
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The five week election and appointment process has begun…

Chaired by the Archbishop's Commissary, the Electoral College for the Diocese of Wellington met last weekend and began the five week process of choosing the new bishop for the Diocese.

Following the Electoral College, the Archbishop's Commissary forwarded the name of the person nominated to the Archbishop, who in turn consults with all the other Bishops in the Anglican Church of Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia. Once the Bishop's sanction has been received, the nomination is then forwarded on to a ballot amongst all members of General Synod. The balloting process takes about four weeks. The General Secretary of the Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia conducts this ballot. The results of the ballot are sent to the Archbishop, who then writes to the successful candidate with an offer to become the next Bishop of Wellington. The process is expected to be completed by the beginning of May.

quite a while ... [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
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... 3 new mitres ...

Surely only two new bishops?

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quote:
Originally posted by Vulpior:
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... 3 new mitres ...

Surely only two new bishops?
It's for the Bonus Bishop. Consecrate two bishops than get the third one free! [Big Grin]

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The third was simply a misunderstood order for a mitre saw, a mistake which could lead to extreme disappointment.

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Cessnock

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quote:
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Cessnock

well yes, of course!

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The third was simply a misunderstood order for a mitre saw, a mistake which could lead to extreme disappointment.

A mitre saw wouldn't be big enough to take the head off your chosen bishop, which failing under some circumstances could lead to extreme disappointment.

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Ven Hone Kaa has died.

He was one of my favourite Anglican clergy. All the news items I've heard about him on the radio today mention his passion and work to stop violence, particularly against Maori children, and I think it would be hard to find someone else with the mana (integrity, charisma, prestige) he brought to that work. He was also a person who would challenge the government or anyone else when he thought it was needed, for example about the growing gap between the rich and poor here. He was a radical, and also a bridge-builder and also helped with programmes examining Maori/ Pakeha* historical interactions.

Ka hinga te totara o te wao nui a Tane.

The falling of the totara tree in the great forest of Tane.

*Pakeha = white New Zealander - was originally used of British settlers.

[ 30. March 2012, 07:11: Message edited by: Huia ]

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I've posted on Facebook my Hone Kaa story (he changed my life) but I have another. I have a great friend who went through College with Hone - he was I believe still John Carr in those days. Hone was expressing rage at the colonialist invaders and their treatment of Māori. My mate Mike, a Scot, said 'you reckon you guys had problems ... look what they did do my people'.

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Remember BL"s link to the Goulburn paper's article on today's consecration of two bishops in the cathedral there?

Today's Sydney Morning Herald has this.

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quote:
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I've posted on Facebook my Hone Kaa story (he changed my life) but I have another.

Hey Zappa, I'm not connected to Facebook (privacy issues). Any chance of doing a cut'n'paste in a PM, please?

I am in tears - joy and sadness - just received my Cathedral Extra and discovered that the tukutuku panels have been rescued from the Cathedral. This was actually announced at the beginning of March, but I was away for a while then. Now I just want to hear the Menorah is Ok, though that was in the drop zone of the West wall, so the news may not be good. However it was designed by a member of one family, and made by his brother so it is not irreplaceable in the way the woven tukutuku panel is (many people wove stitches under the guidance of a wonderful woman who has since died [Tear] .

Huia

[ 31. March 2012, 00:29: Message edited by: Huia ]

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By the way, the way things are going here I should put in for the Dean's job!

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Zappa, I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy. One of the Cathedral staff has written that "The relationship of the people of Christchurch to their Cathedral is part talisman, part fetish and part like a much loved, gently neglected older relative," which is one of the most accurate descriptions I've seen.

BannerLady - an update on the Cardboard Cathedral. An announcement is expected in the next few weeks. It sounds as if it's all go. subject to a suitable site being found, which is proving difficult.

Huia

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Nice shot of my banners flying on the ABC news tonight.

I have taken photos from where I was sitting in the sanctuary and sent them to the cathedral FB site.

Gosh I'm tired!
[Snore]

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Photos...

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quote:
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Nice shot of my banners flying on the ABC news tonight.

I have taken photos from where I was sitting in the sanctuary and sent them to the cathedral FB site.

Gosh I'm tired!
[Snore]

Saw them. A momentous occasion.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Nice shot of my banners flying on the ABC news tonight.

I have taken photos from where I was sitting in the sanctuary and sent them to the cathedral FB site.

Gosh I'm tired!
[Snore]

Saw them. A momentous occasion.
Make sure you get the extra hour's sleep tonight when clocks go back, BL

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Duck, duck, duck, duckity duck duck duck.

Hm.

So I had a Parish Council meeting this morning in which I basically put forward a proposal to vote me out of a job. In reality it was well received, understood, I was affirmed despite being a blithering nincompoop (which I've know for years blah blah blah - personally I'd plead left field and whatever, but a few clearly consider me grossly incompetent, not least a bishop or two but don't go there and don't mention purple balloons ... it reciprocates) ...

So it all went well until the Key Player™, whose sheer disdain for me has been increasingly apparent as the months have gone on (she was one of two, friends, but the other one has left taking his enormously generous but controlling cheque book with him) launched into a 'what the hell did you come here for and basically you're useless and everything you've done here has failed abysmally' diatribe.

Duck, duck, duck, duckity duck duck duck.

Somehow by the grace of God and becuase I knew that all others around the table saw things differently I was able to hang in there, smile sweetly, and express my thanks for her perspective et cetera. No that's alright, I really don't have feelings, I'm a robot. A useless one. No worries.

But you know, sometimes I get a little tired of being told I'm an abject failure - especially when most meaningful indicators say 'actually by the grace of God you've blundered along okay'.

Duck, duck, duck, duckity duck duck duck.

See. I haven't even sworn.

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My sympathies, Zappa... I could empathize... Let us just say there are reasons upon reasons why I am moving to a Frontier Services patrol in May, and the FS patrol-Anglican/UCA parish is ceasing ... The parish may continue but not with FS

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That sucks, Zappa to use a word which rhymes. All too easy to be nasty with someone else's life and family when really, all most of us do is to blunder along OK by God's race.

Prayers for you and Kuru and for the situation.

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Oh, dear, Zappa! I so empathise , too. On the other hand, I broke the "hallelujah" rule this morning on learning that a perpetually toxic parishioner has decided to attend elsewhere. The fact is that I had so had enough of her vitriolic, bullying, controlling nature that I told her yesterday not to come back to St Alfred's again. I was at the end of my tether, I'll admit; but I was just one of her many whipping-boys, and we one of a series of parishes into which she has poured poison over many years. I can only wish her "new" rector and parishioners good luck!
BTW, I have come out of this smelling of roses with my own folk over my standing up to her. It's costly, but not all bad [Smile]

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Zappa , call another meeting for Low Sunday and take along that small croc you were training to chew the grass - on a leash, of course, but it will keep discussion focussed. They might even think that if you can train a croc, you're up to being their rector.

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Rowen, frontier service is amazing. Last Easter/Anzac holiday we were camping in the midnorth. We went to the local pub for the Anzac service, had a beer and witnessed one of those beautiful god is good type moments. The Padre was that good and honest and it was a privilege to participate in. I wish you all the very best for a breathtakingly vital ministry.

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Thank you. I really enjoy working with FS... The work is utterly fascinating, and the organization is great. I look forward to the new FS role and grieve the loss of the old.
I am pleased to be returning to my fold, as in a UCA only role

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[Votive] Zappa

[Votive] Rowen

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Huia
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Someone somewhere, maybe a sermon I heard at an Induction? said they thought one of the first questions to be asked of church people on the day of the Great Waking Up (thanks Zappa) will be. "How did you treat my Priests and Ministers?"

It is bad enough when it comes from those outside the tent pissing in - but when it comes from those inside I wonder what hope there is for the Church. I'm not saying ordination confers Infallibility, but it should be possible to disagree without the virulence often shown by feral parishioners.

Zappa, Kuru and the Kuruzapplets [Votive]

Rowen [Votive] Best wishes for yor new venture.

Huia

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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
I can only wish her "new" rector and parishioners good luck!

In the name of all that is holy, if she shows up at my place, I will hunt you down.

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quote:
Originally posted by jugular:
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
I can only wish her "new" rector and parishioners good luck!

In the name of all that is holy, if she shows up at my place, I will hunt you down.
I didn't think to suggest she try you. Maybe I should writre her an anonymous letter!

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Go you good thing Rexory! And yeah, Gee D, I think I'll train the croc. The funny thing is that after posting that I got some good, real good, words of encouragement from various sources in the faith community, lots of affirmation, which to be honest I really needed at that moment. Not least from a person who thanked me for 'getting rid of' someone they condidered creepy and bullying - not unlike rexory's situation in many ways.

It's a silly job ... having to shift the perceptions and expectations of the same people who a) usually want to stay within those safe perceptions and expectations and b) who pay you.

At any rate I have permission now to go part time - and as one warden commented I could have lied and claimed I was flat out working a 60 hour week, rather than admit they are utterly wasting money paying me for a job that takes about 12-15 hours a week.

So now to find a day job ... after somehow getting through Holy Week, lectures, medical procedures and insomnia ...

Thanks for the prayers: I think I'll need them.

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Ah yes, insomnia - God bless the ship: what would we do without her!

Yesterday was the first time I have processed into church in front of a donkey. (Donkey is an old and venerable animal called Jenny who even has her own red and black liturgical vestment to wear).

This vestment hangs in the cathedral cupboard and is hung out once a year ready for Jenny to wear. It has a tag on it that says "For the Donkey".

I cannot begin to tell you how many clergy and ass jokes I heard yesterday... [Razz]

All good fun!

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Zappa
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We had a real donkey each year at St Triangles but none here, alas (though we had a pony for Christmas). I really must get on training that croc.

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Oh, and RIP Lionel Bowen ... I liked him.

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Lionel Bowen was a good man. Not a Good Man, something from which he would have shrunk. Very humble, even as Dep Prime Minister, a devout Christian, an MP who kept in very close touch with his constituents. Also competent at administering his departments. A total contrast to the present Member for that electorate.

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The Passion is now sold out for tonight and Wednesday night! If you're coming along, dear Sydney siders, better book for Tuesday.

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Sounds like everybody has had a big weekend!

BL - missed seeing your banners on the news, but enjoyed looking at the photos on your flickr page.

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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
This vestment hangs in the cathedral cupboard and is hung out once a year ready for Jenny to wear. It has a tag on it that says "For the Donkey".

[Killing me]


Zappa - prayers for you and your family A terrible situation to be in. There's nothing like a Toxic Parish Mafia to bring you down. In my early 20's I left the parish in which I grew up because of just such a group. In hindsight I did the right thing, but at the time it was awful and I feel for anybody in that position. Nobody ever comes out of it unscathed, including those that see themselves as the "winners". Rexory - well done. Despite my previous comment that nobody comes out unscathed, having the Toxic Agent in your midst is still enough to destroy your whole parish.

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"How did you treat my Priests and Ministers?"
Huia - exactly!

Rowen, all the best with your changes ahead.

Second those thought about Lionel Bowen. If only we hade people of that calibre in parliament now...

Back to the doctor for me tonight as I can't shake the end of this virus. Had to attack the lawns yesterday, and it nearly killed me!

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If that's what an autumnal virus does, what will winter be like?

Didn't get to church yesterday but not for want of trying. Got to near City Road intersection with Parramatta Rd and bus stopped. Let us off, a long way from the stop. There was a huge crane plonked in the middle of Parramatta Road outside UTS. Traffic was allowed through spasmodically in both directions.

I was in plenty of time to catch bus up to Newtown and Enmore Road, but none came. Lots of Leichhardt buses but that's normal. Loads of them run and they come in threes. 10 minutes after service would have started, I was still there. At almost 10:00 am, my bus home arrived so I got on. Lift upstairs had a light saying out of service. Better than before Christmas when it totally died. It was stuck in basement attempting to rise but without success.

Just went to check mail and lift is back working.

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