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Greetings from Changi airport. I too had a lovely service at my old church in London. What a feeling to be among 1,000 people singing Christ is Risen!
Back home tomorrow then work on Wednesday.
The tour was wonderful but it is over now.
Reality bites...
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What we enjoyed at Changi were the free foot massage things - very relaxing!
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Anyone watch Richard Dawkins and Cardinal Pell on ABC Q & A this evening?
I was quite impressed actually.
Mainly by Pell but occasionally by Dawkins too.
Apparently Atheists aren't going to hell. Good to know.
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Thank you BL. Easter has been weird, with traveling and so on. Looking forward to getting home. Father in law managed to do what the fool from OBriens glass refused to do - slot the window back in its track so the rain couldn't get in. Words will be spoken.
Last night we went to Mistys American diner, and was involved in the consumption of a Bucket O Ribs. It actually came in a bucket. And was delicious.
MCG today, Geelong tomorrow.
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Snow? What be that, I wonder?
Hmmm... It seems I spoke too soon. Four days ago it was balmy and wonderful. Today its bluddy freezing here. Mother is NOT amused. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Hope you've got a scarf and beanie for the MCG, Mr.C.
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Sun streams into my place from now through winter across the three roomed front. Misses me mostly in summer because it's higher in the sky. Shortsleeves inside but will change when I go shopping. 9° here this morning which is cold for this area at this time. Colder at my brothers, near GeeD and Mr Curly.
Have just run cleanser powder through coffee machine so will have a cup now.
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25 degrees here at Matarangi; hot sun in cloudless sky. All right it won't last. But at least our coming late in the season hasn't spoiled our stay. The Grandad's tree is covered with olives, the little green kind. They disappear between our March visit and our return in late May. Pity we don't know anyone with an olive press but right now he's preparing to pickle.
We never come here at holiday times, and thought Easter weekend would be rowdy, but it was great: our small street was full of the families we first knew as you couples when we all bought here 27 yeas ago. Now middle-aged with young teen to young adult kids, having fun together – there were 14 cars on a total of three properties; tents etc – and we could chat with folk we hadn't seen for years, though we'd sometimes spoken on the phone.
The local Community Board has retreated into an earlier century and withdrawn the free Wifi service at the library, but another nearby friend has left his router switched on for me. Next thing: find out who I can join in complaining about the library thing.
GG on her way to cool off.
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Me too.
I'll have to find some other enemy now.
So inconvenient. These things take time and effort.
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I didn't see the Dawkins vs Pell stoush on Q&A, but I did read about it in the paper and hear grabs of it on 702 yesterday morning. I could watch the repeat on ABC4 but I can't be bothered - as Dawkins is a fundmentalist athiest I find him as tedious and annoying as fundamentalist Christians.
Being and Autumn-Winter person I'm really enjoying this weather!
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Greetings to other Shipmates in Australia. I have been a long-time lurker but finally came aboard. Enjoyed the threads over the years, hope to join in as the occasion allows.
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Hi Arnhem Boy! Glad you've arrived. Zappa lives up your end of the world: I used to, but now reside in QLD, where there are fewer crocs ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Welcome Arnhem Boy. Glad to have you aboard, don't be a stranger.
Oh, oh, I just noticed. Another Terry Pratchett fan! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Welcome Arnhem Boy. If it turns out you're a Grandmother from Peru, it would amuse me. Are you, by any chance?
Today I have done nothing, other than make some toast and watch episodes of Studio 60
I also took two parish-related phone calls, and let one go to voicemail. Tomorrow I might do some work. Or not.
I have lowered expectations from 'good and faithful servant' to 'barely satisfactory and half-arsed contractor'.
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Or reading Evelyn Waugh's diaries and letters?
If not, you should at least read the letters between Waugh and Nancy Mitford. An interesting look at an aspect of life now gone, but no need to feel nostalgic.
I was very nostalgic this evening over dinner, recalling suburban goods sidings, where coal trucks and the like would discharge their freight for local produce stores. It only took a couple of glasses of red to get me there.
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Tomorrow I might do some work. Or not.
I have lowered expectations from 'good and faithful servant' to 'barely satisfactory and half-arsed contractor'.
Take tomorrow off, then! I am!
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I didn't see the Dawkins vs Pell stoush on Q&A, but I did read about it in the paper and hear grabs of it on 702 yesterday morning. I could watch the repeat on ABC4 but I can't be bothered - as Dawkins is a fundmentalist athiest I find him as tedious and annoying as fundamentalist Christians.
Being and Autumn-Winter person I'm really enjoying this weather!
It's amazing the media coverage that stoush got-irritating too. A few years ago Dawkins went up against a group of liberal theologians of at least all the monotheistic religions and he came off very badly-but no newspaper articles appeared about that.
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Originally posted by Cryptic:
I didn't see the Dawkins vs Pell stoush on Q&A, but I did read about it in the paper and hear grabs of it on 702 yesterday morning. I could watch the repeat on ABC4 but I can't be bothered - as Dawkins is a fundmentalist athiest I find him as tedious and annoying as fundamentalist Christians.
Being and Autumn-Winter person I'm really enjoying this weather!
It's amazing the media coverage that stoush got-irritating too. A few years ago Dawkins went up against a group of liberal theologians on Q&A at least all the monotheistic religions were represented and Dawkins came off very badly-but no newspaper articles appeared about that.
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I watched the film version of "The God Delusion" (I think it was) on Compass a few years ago. Dawkins went after the fundamentalists with a vengeance, but there was one scene where he interviewed one of the UK liberal bishops. It was the shortest scene in the film - he just dismissed him after couple of sentences of narrative. I could give Dawkins' ideas more of a hearing if he wasn't such a tedious condescending prat.
Welcome Arnhem Boy! Hope that you have fun here! I'm fairly new here too but was an occasional lurker for some time - much more fun to post!
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Re Dawkins, there was a wonderful article in the Guardian (I kid you not) where an atheist academic paid out on Dawkins with a vengeance-I wish I'd kept it. Pretty much demolished his arguments and IIRC sort of said he was an embarrassment to atheists. So true.
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Lovely day walking around Melbourne in autumn sunshine today. Simon's legendary Peking duck last night.
Home to see what's been stolen tomorrow. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Oh, God love the church. I received my first "anonymous" letter today. All scuttlebutt about a colleague. TP rightly said 'SHRED IT!'
"Right," said Fred, "Let's leave it there to shred"...you can all fill in the rest of the verses.
However, this was nicely balanced in the post by letters from two lovely Christian women I had not heard from in years. One from SA, and the other in a new parish posting with her hubby in the Riverina.
I do so like it when God's goodness tips the balance into the + zone!
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I'm expecting a few doodoos on the fan tomorrow - Darwin's not exactly either librul or intellecchal newspaper has caught up with my being a signatory to the 'multi faith clergy call for marriage equality' letter.
I expect profound engagement of the "we're gonna come round and rape your puppy" variety. Probably from nice born again Jesus-people.
As I said on Facebook, it's been a few years since I was a media whore - and it may scuttle my conversations with a local scool about a chaplaincy ...
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I wouldn't worry too much, Zappa. It's not as if you signed a petition against beer.
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I wouldn't worry too much, Zappa. It's not as if you signed a petition against beer.
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C'mon, Zappa, you're loving every minute!
I think you've instantly become a 'reverse Cardinal Pell'.
You will live in such intellectually thriving communities.
In Parkville you'd be 'just one of the boys'.
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I see Bob Brown has just resigned as Greens leader and a senator and Christine Milne is new leader.
Speiling vary bad!
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In Parkville you'd be 'just one of the boys'.
Oh absolutely - I lived Inner-city and inner-city faith long enough to know that. Though as it happens I was talking to my local member this morning - a right-winger - and, apart from not having a horse in the race, she agreed with me. Those old divisions of right and left so often break down.
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Home!
Losses less than expected - Mrs Curly's jewelry the main casualty. A video camera is gone, but it had recently stopped working, so some things work out.
Guess if the cops had actually come over (rather than just the fingerprinter), they'd have found the stocking/balaclava in the front yard where I found it today?
Biggest and Middle off on church camp, Little Miss off to a party/sleep over. IF only we weren't so exhausted!
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Welcome Arnhem Boy. If it turns out you're a Grandmother from Peru, it would amuse me. Are you, by any chance?
Sorry to not amuse you, but I am a Grandfather, and originally from Yorkshire. But been in Australia many years.
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Yorkshire/Peru - not much difference really.
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WW - who grew up WEST of the Pennines.
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Sir Pellinore
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In Parkville you'd be 'just one of the boys'.
Oh absolutely - I lived Inner-city and inner-city faith long enough to know that. Though as it happens I was talking to my local member this morning - a right-winger - and, apart from not having a horse in the race, she agreed with me. Those old divisions of right and left so often break down.
She would appear to be a rare bird in your neck of the woods.
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No, to be honest, and possibly purgatorial, I think the days of Brokeback Mountain are gone up here, and no-one gives a shit what their neighbour does with their willy or radical absence thereof. Mincing and camp a la Quentin Crisp or Boy George is frowned upon - but butch gay is fine.
Even Bob Brown is alright - except for his politics.
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No, to be honest, and possibly purgatorial, I think the days of Brokeback Mountain are gone up here, and no-one gives a shit what their neighbour does with their willy or radical absence thereof. Mincing and camp a la Quentin Crisp or Boy George is frowned upon - but butch gay is fine.
Even Bob Brown is alright - except for his politics.
Well, Bob Brown is to bow out of politics in June. Things just got a lot, lot worse for the Greens.
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It's possibly just my family and upbringing, but I'd always assumed certain people were 'different' and let it pass. It never seemed a big deal to me.
I must say I admire your stand on same sex marriage, as I admire Tony Abbott's, who takes the opposite position. Because, like him, I think you make your own decisions.
This thread is very much the SOF equivalent of 'cup of tea time' so I don't want to be too serious.
When I talked of Parkville I was thinking of Trinity and the MCD, both of which you are an alumnus of. Possibly the best theological education in Australia. Not up to the Faculty of Divinity at Cambridge, but I think you, like many ex-Trinity theologs, would have been more in your element there.
I have often wondered why you were a peripatetic cleric and why, when you were at, I believe, wankydilla, so many people from here made the journey. One young man - now overseas - took you as a mentor.
I suspect, like many Cambridge graduates, who end up teaching Classics in Ontario or elsewhere, you brought something of an intellectual tradition with you. Something not readily available there. A hint that there was something more on offer.
Sometimes people on SOF display real intelligence. Evangeline is another who strikes me as being like this. Possessing the ability to think originally and say it pithily. Of course there are others...
As you know, I have not always agreed with you. I don't. But, when you are really you, you put it pithily and courteously.
If SOF were like this all the time...
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Frankly, Sir Pellinore, I'm glad we don't have to be intellectuals to enjoy the friendships which are formed and nurtured by this site. And you've forgotten the Other - and better - College in Parkville!
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the Other - and better - College in Parkville!
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Still, while not speaking for Evangeline, I suspect you flatter me. I'd love to be that bright, but simply ain't. Some of my confreres and consueres are (I think of P. Aspinall, E. Smith and the present warden of Trinity), and I would have loved to have been. I've kept on pretending, and kept on studying, but in the end am far more pseudo or perhaps at best quasi than the real McCoy.
As for the young gentleman now overseas, he was quoting Gaius Valerius Catullus at me in Heaven a few minutes ago: I would certainly have no pretence of matching his brain!
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I think you do yourself a disservice, Zappa.
Quite frankly I think you could stand on your own merits beside any whose names you quoted. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Rexory, were you at Ridley under the saintly Leon Morris, whose name still lives? You were then a very lucky young man. They broke that mould, sadly.
Evangeline, I stand by what I said. Zere vill be nein retractions.
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Rexory, were you at Ridley under the saintly Leon Morris, whose name still lives? You were then a very lucky young man. They broke that mould, sadly.
Sadly, indeed. No I arrived the year after Dr Morris' retirement.
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Still, while not speaking for Evangeline, I suspect you flatter me. I'd love to be that bright, but simply ain't.
Yeah speak for yourself Zappa ![[Biased]](wink.gif) I'm going with the compliment.
Still looking for an activity for Sunday School that starts in 45mins-none of the suggested ones are quite right for our group hmmm.
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Rexory, were you at Ridley under the saintly Leon Morris, whose name still lives? You were then a very lucky young man. They broke that mould, sadly.
I too started after Leon had left. I did have to preach in front of him though--one of the most terrifying moments of my life!
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Rexory, were you at Ridley under the saintly Leon Morris, whose name still lives? You were then a very lucky young man. They broke that mould, sadly.
I too started after Leon had left. I did have to preach in front of him though--one of the most terrifying moments of my life!
Well, he was something rare even amongst the many religiously learned of Parkville, a genuinely world renowned biblical scholar.
Personally I believe he was quiet and unassuming, which would have made him rather different from his contemporary on the other side of Royal Parade, Dr (of Jurisprudence) Robin Sharwood.
Leon Morris, though a staunch Evangelical, was a man of rare tolerance, certainly when compared with our time. Many eminent High Churchmen studied and graduated from Ridley in his time.
Sadly, I believe that is no longer the case.
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