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Sir Pellinore
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If it's a private school, as I imagine it is, I think you would be able to teach, Zappa but they'd probably want you to teach Divinity, as most schools in Australasia aren't overflowing with the Theologically qualified.
There'd be plenty of others adequately qualified to teach English, History etc.
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Galloping Granny
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: I tell you what. I got to the lecture theatre a bit late for the exam and sat down in my row. There was only one exam set out as I was the only person taking the exam in Greek.
The lady up front giving instructions in this massive lecture theatre with lots of students stopped and pointed at me and said:
"Are you the person doing the Advanced New Testament Exegesis exam in Greek"?
I nodded as all eyes turned to me.
Boy did I feel like the world's biggest Geek then.
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Evangeline
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Only a cert IV to teach in NT wow in NSW, to teach primary if you have an undergrad degree you need a 2 year M.Teach and for secondary at least a 1 yr diped but many institutions don't offer that anymore so you're stuck with doing an M.Teach anyway.
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: In the NT one has to have something called a Cert IV to teach; I don't have one and they don't want me to have one. The school is a fascinating one (there I go outing myself again so I promise not to say botty or poo or bishop on these threads). They want a pastoral and liturgical chaplain.
So why the interest in a Dip Ed then? Something else?
In WA the religious education system seems insane. My son's teacher last year was a fresh graduate of a bachelor of commerce.
RE teachers here don't seem to have any theological qualifications - just a teaching qualification. And the schools kind of bandy the chore about to whichever teacher is free.
So I assume when I get my Dip Ed, I'll be able to go teach Physics then.
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Banner Lady
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So, I preached in the garden tonight - actually I felt very loved. As I drove in to Goulburn, there was the most beautiful double rainbow arched over the city in front of me. Then I arrived to find the lecturn surrounded by flowers, and some old friends made a surprise appearance just to make me smile.
As I got to celebrate my mum's 94th birthday today too, and received lots of excellent feedback from the preaching, I am counting it a red letter day.
Editing to add: I think I had 6 layers on UNDER that alb! It was 3 degrees when I arrived. BRRRRR
I'll definitely be sleeping well tonight! [ 01. July 2012, 12:29: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: I am mainly seeing the Dip Ed as an alternative to the rather inanely titled B.I.L.L. (Bachelor of Indigenous Languages and Learning), perhaps a litytle more germane to the context. Perhaps. There's a huge Indigenous component to the school community.
If you don't have to teach and you don't feel called to teaching then I suspect what you're currently doing fits the BILL better.
Well done Banner Lady! To preach at the Cathedral is quite an impressive feat. Is that part of the training or were you asked especially? As a first year in training at our Cathedral we weren't let anywhere near the pulpit.
Btw, your comment on the Holy Huddle picture had me in tears. I'll never again be able to look at an ordination without thinking about spinal removal.
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Vulpior
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Well done, BL.
We'd already stopped to shop in Goulburn on our way back from Sydney; another Swans win, but I'm guessing there aren't any Blacktown Bogans fans on here yet
So the thought of heading back up when it was even colder was simply not going to be entertained, sorry.
So much football is keeping me from church, or at least the lying in the next morning is, but I might make Perth Cathedral in a fortnight when we're over there.
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Galloping Granny
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: I am mainly seeing the Dip Ed as an alternative to the rather inanely titled B.I.L.L. (Bachelor of Indigenous Languages and Learning), perhaps a litytle more germane to the context. Perhaps. There's a huge Indigenous component to the school community.
It looks like a really interesting school.
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Cryptic
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BL - that's a beautiful photo, even at 3 degrees... We'll be passing through Goulburn next week, Cryptogirl is cranky becuase it will be in the early evening and the cathedral won't be open.
Well done to everybody with their exams and enrolments and study. I must admit that all that talk of study fills me with dread!
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Gee D
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BL , thanks for the photo and also for the whole of the Flicker photos of earlier occasions.
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Lothlorien
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I always enjoy my good coffee in the morning but more so today. Have had two small granddaughters with me since Sunday so they can attend a week of Kids Games which they love. They've just been collected and I am basking in pleasant sunshine, about 6° outside enjoying coffee,as any well organised grandma should be able to do. Up, showered and dressed for all of us, breakfast, bags packed, washing up done and washing hung out.
Now I just need to last till Friday afternoon.
I see they arrested that axe murderer, Zappa. He was apparently set for a long time with good bush skills and equipment. [ 02. July 2012, 22:40: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
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Banner Lady
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: quote: Originally posted by Banner Lady: So, I preached in the garden tonight - actually I felt very loved.
Well did. It is always an awesome privilege and I bet you nailed it.
Apparently I did. Supervisors are pleased. Congo was pleased. People have been very kind, and I have had a few requests for copies. Possibly this is because I figured that if this was the only time I was ever asked to speak at the big house (very probable), I wanted to make sure the I would say the thing I most wanted them to hear from my heart. It was definitely NOT a 'head' sermon.
No, Evensong, they don't let newbies loose in the cathedral, which is why, in my second year there, I was allocated the midwinter Evensong slot. I suppose we are always first put where we can do the least damage. I was expecting there might be about 5 of us present on such a bitter night. But the faithful ARE faithful and there were 5 times that number. We all sat in the sanctuary together, which was lovely.
Eldest grandsons arrived last night for a few days with us. We've just had the breakfast time soccer tournament. (Played with dice). B1.1 was very excited when his team (Italy) won.
Then this disorganized grandma will attempt to sort out the house while TP takes them off to the movies.
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Lothlorien
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quote: Then this disorganized grandma will attempt to sort out the house while TP takes them off to the movies.
BL, that's a waste of good grandma time. Tea or coffee, sunshine, the fire, the Ship. Whatever.
You know as well as I do that it's a waste of time organising the house. It will be just as bad again tomorrow, but if you do nothing, it doesn't seem to degenerate as rapidly.
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Zappa
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... meanwhile back here at the Middle of the Top (or whereever) I am preparing to crank up the truck and drive to Melbourne ... leaving after Mass on Sunday. Get the car serviced tomorrow. Got a new UHF put in yesterday - so i can hear the truckies say "duck" a lot. All of which means I may not have money for about 7,000 kms worth of diesel!
I'll be peering through the incence at St Pete's the Sunday after, before heading back.
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Sir Pellinore
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: I am mainly seeing the Dip Ed as an alternative to the rather inanely titled B.I.L.L. (Bachelor of Indigenous Languages and Learning), perhaps a litytle more germane to the context. Perhaps. There's a huge Indigenous component to the school community.
The B.I.L.L. sounds like it was one of those degrees designed with terribly good intentions. Was it primarily aimed at indigenous students?
You'd already probably have a primary degree not in Theology so another bachelor's - especially given the level of many of the subjects - would seem a waste of time.
In my time in government service I found what my indigenous colleagues taught me informally, or on short courses they ran, were immensely valuable.
Kormilda College has, I believe, had its ups and downs. Someone like you, who's seen a bit of the world and rubbed shoulders with a multitude of races, may be just what they need.
I think they might need someone who breaks the mould of the stereotypical cleric. You certainly do that.
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rexory
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): I think they might need someone who breaks the mould of the stereotypical cleric. You certainly do that.
No one could call Zappa "stereotypical"! [ 03. July 2012, 09:41: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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Oof, 6.5 earthquake off the coast of Opunake felt loud and clear in Wellington for about 30 seconds. We were under the table quicker than greased lightning. No damage here, just a certain degree of nervousness (worry).
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Banner Lady
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Just heard there's been a 6.3 earthquake off the north island of NZ. Hope there's been minimal damage. That's pretty big. Maybe Huia can tell us more because it's not on the news pages yet.
ooh, crossposted with Arabella....I love this ship! [ 03. July 2012, 10:58: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
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Banner Lady
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Google tells me Opunake is 400kms from Wellington, so that's a fair bit of shaking, APW.
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Banner Lady
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Centre was south of Opunake in the ocean, and 257 kms deep, so maybe there won't be too much damage on land.
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Gee D
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Prayers for you all - including you Huia, as the shakiness continues.
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Prayers for all in New Zealand. When will the quake problems stop.
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Galloping Granny
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In Wellington. First heard a faint tinkle like a distant telephone – pause – another tinkle (actually something small and metallic nearby), then the rumble, and then the shake, pause, more shaking. Nothing much really. Considered getting under the table but not so easy with aging bones. The Grandad appeared from another room and we had a bit of a laugh, then thought 'It might be a little one in Wellington but maybe it was a big one somewhere else'. Actually I was sitting at my computer trying to find this to share.
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Lothlorien
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Miss 7 and her sister Miss just 10 have been here since Sunday. Miss 7 decided she would pray last night at bedtime. Her prayer; Dear God, thank you we are having butter chicken for dinner tomorrow.
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Cryptic
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Prayers to all in NZ.
quote: Originally posted by Galloping Granny: Actually I was sitting at my computer trying to find this to share.
GG
I'm impressesd...
quote: Originally posted by Lothlorien: Her prayer; Dear God, thank you we are having butter chicken for dinner tomorrow.
That's priceless! You should cross-post in the Saying Grace thread Loth.
Yay school holidays! Less traffic, and fewer lunches to make. Also having a few days off to see the Lego Brick Show in Canberra next week.
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Uncle Pete
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Barefoot bishops are quite common in India. Perhaps that's because everyone leaves footwear outside the church. But it must have shocked the Misses Grundy and others, especially in the winter.
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Huia
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Well I was going to come on and say the Taranaki quake wasn't felt here, but reading a local board I find some people felt it as the equivalent of a 3 or 4 - I think I was asleep.
Bib- they're not going to end, well at least not in the near future. A small town north of here is still getting aftershocks for a quake in 1968, they they are smaller and getting further apart. Also even the experts differ as to whether shakiness is an aftershock or a whole new earthquake. (I tend to use the terms interchangeably).
GG, thanks for the article on the New Bishop of Wellington. Well done Arabella - I haven't made it under a table yet, though I did manage a doorway in the June quake which was the second biggest.
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Sir Pellinore
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quote: Originally posted by rexory: quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): I think they might need someone who breaks the mould of the stereotypical cleric. You certainly do that.
No one could call Zappa "stereotypical"!
Indeed.
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Zappa
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): The B.I.L.L. sounds like it was one of those degrees designed with terribly good intentions. Was it primarily aimed at indigenous students?
I think it was a bit of a mishmash designed to cater for both the Indigenous students at Batchelor College and the predominantly (in reality totally) non-Indigenous students at CDU. It hasn't worked, and the inter-departmental warfare is, I believe, bitter.
quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): You'd already probably have a primary degree not in Theology so another bachelor's - especially given the level of many of the subjects - would seem a waste of time.
Yeah. My BA is in Eng Lit and Religious Studies and my MA is in lit. I am tempted to say it taught be how to bullshit fluently - though I loved it. But then I love bullshit.
quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): In my time in government service I found what my indigenous colleagues taught me informally, or on short courses they ran, were immensely valuable.
Absolutely, and I hope I don't stop learning from them, formally or otherwise.
quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): Kormilda College has, I believe, had its ups and downs. Someone like you, who's seen a bit of the world and rubbed shoulders with a multitude of races, may be just what they need.
Spot on!
quote: Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd): I think they might need someone who breaks the mould of the stereotypical cleric. You certainly do that.
Thanks! (I think) ... though I am less out there than the new aforementioned bishop of Wellington, and am a stuffy old bore, really.
It's had some fantastic chaplains. The last three though have experienced catastophes - mental and physical breakdowns, then one died in transit when getting there. Not good. All prayers appreciated.
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Banner Lady
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In other earthshaking news, B2 has popped early, and we now have another grandson - born at 4pm on July 4. I guess that means he is always going to have fireworks on his birthday! Mother and child well, father still stunned.
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Vulpior
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quote: Originally posted by Banner Lady: In other earthshaking news, B2 has popped early, and we now have another grandson - born at 4pm on July 4. I guess that means he is always going to have fireworks on his birthday! Mother and child well, father still stunned.
Yay!
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Cryptic
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Fantastic news BL!
How was the butter chicken, Loth?
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Lothlorien
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quote: Originally posted by Cryptic: Fantastic news BL!
How was the butter chicken, Loth?
Really good news, BL.
Butter chicken was not my best batch but quite edible. These children eat a wide range of food so they appreciated it.
One is a diagnosed coeliac and her sister is gluten intolerant so I have to be careful. I used some commercial paste which is gluten free. [ 04. July 2012, 22:41: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
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James the Confident
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quote: Originally posted by Banner Lady: In other earthshaking news, B2 has popped early, and we now have another grandson - born at 4pm on July 4. I guess that means he is always going to have fireworks on his birthday! Mother and child well, father still stunned.
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Mr Curly
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Great news,BL.
Made it to Hawks Nest, sans Mrs C who is working tomorrow and joint us after that. Peaceful now, but two more families will be joining us in an hour or so, and then it will be 15 people in a medium sized house for 4 days. Forecast? Showers and 16 deg. I'll be going for many long walks.
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Gee D
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Curly: Great news,BL.
Made it to Hawks Nest, sans Mrs C who is working tomorrow and joint us after that. Peaceful now, but two more families will be joining us in an hour or so, and then it will be 15 people in a medium sized house for 4 days. Forecast? Showers and 16 deg. I'll be going for many long walks.
mr curly
Any walk will be hard if you've been jointed. Any you can't blame it as a typo, as you're not trying to manage a small keyboard on a train home.
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Welease Woderwick
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I think a woman jointing her husband may be understandable, if hard to forgive - but the kids as well?!?!?
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