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Boogie
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I second Smudgie - it also costs money to drive round London due to the congestion charge. The underground is often busy but it's very efficient with trains every 3 minutes or so.
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Seconded. How likely is he to have to travel extensively within the cities in any case? Business trips usually involve just getting from airport to hotel (the Heathrow Express is fast and frequent). Either the hotel will be convenient to the transport link, or be near to the meeting venue (or indeed be the venue). Pubs and restaurants are normally thick on the ground, so all in all, bar the major transits - which as Smudgie says are well supported - there's not a lot of travelling usually.
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I manage very well in Birmingham without a car, and get around quickly and easily by both train and bus. Even when they're messing up the middle of the city, and changing all the bus stops. I also nearly got run over on one road, as I wasn't expecting it to have changed to be one-way in the other direction.
There are several different ways of getting from Birmingham to London by train, either from Euston or Marylebone. I usually do the Marylebone route, which is cheaper, but slower. The fastest route can be eye-wateringly expensive. That may not be an issue if he's on business. [ 12. August 2012, 06:52: Message edited by: Japes ]
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Sorry, crossposted with Japes and the Delete Post option seems to have disappeared.
In answer to WW (below), yes it is easy to get around central Birmingham on foot. The train service to the outskirts was also quite good on the occasions when I've taken it. [ 12. August 2012, 07:21: Message edited by: Ariel ]
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Welease Woderwick
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There is also a fairly speedy and fairly efficient coach service between the two cities but the preference has to be the train. Driving would be a very silly idea. Tell him no to be tempted by the speed of flying - the timing there is airport to airport, not city centre to city centre.
Given ok weather central London is also easily walkable, I presume Birmingham is the same. The best way to see anywhere is on foot or on a bicycle. If he cycles then there are bicycles for hire located in several places but get comfortable with the traffic being on the opposite side of the road before trying this!
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by piglet: In other news, we'll be heading over to Blighty tomorrow night so put the kettle on and have that nice temperate weather ready, eh?
The warm summer weather ends tonight, according to the Met Office we're in for a week of showers, coolness and rain.
It's been lovely while it's lasted.
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Birmingham isn't a joy to drive in either, and it's madness to drive in London unless you absolutely have to - even the City slickers use the Boris bikes if they don't use the tube or taxis. Which makes for funny photos at moments.
Hopefully he'll be most impressed by your internet savvy. My daughter's boss was fairly shocked by how fast I got recommendations for restaurants in Tampere (Finland) using a similar trick.
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daisydaisy
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In London it's worth him getting an Oyster card - it's pre-payment for bus & tube at a lower cost than paying for each journey separately. You swipe it at each end of a tube journey, but I think only once on the bus which I didn't realise for ages so payed twice for my bus trips.
Edited to add that last time I travelled on Birmingham buses exact change was needed for the fare. [ 12. August 2012, 08:16: Message edited by: daisydaisy ]
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Oysters can also be used on the Thames boats, which are more expensive, but a very comfortable way of travelling for some journeys
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You still do need exact change on Birmingham buses!
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I have been to the Olympic marathon today, an 11 am start to an August marathon is a bit hard on the athletes and they did seem to suffer from the heat. I was opposite the water station for the Andorran athlete and we all gave him a loud cheer when he came past. He was 74th in about 2 hours 29. One thing about doing a bit of running myself is I realise just how good the guys right at the back of the field still are.
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I remember walking in central London on a hot day being uncomfortable, but that Marathon must have been hell. There was a guy who had just finished laid flat out with someone sprinkling water on him. All the finishers had water poured on the back of their necks as they finished and I just hope they are OK.
In hindsight a 9am start would have been better, but that's hindsight for you.
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: It used to be possible to punt right up to one of the pubs (the Victoria Arms, IIRC) and stop off for a drink before resuming your journey, I don't know if you can still do that.
Yes, it's the Vicky, and yes you can still punt right up to it. Well, to be more accurate you punt to the bit of meadow between it and the river, then send someone up to the bar whilst the rest find space on a picnic table. Pretty good pub IMO - personally I prefer it to the Trout - good beer and food, although the food does cost a bit...
Having got back from Cropredy, washed, and finally switched computer on, thought I'd drop in to say hello again! Had a lovely warm dry weekend, unfortunately it looks as though tomorrow may be damp - just when I need to borrow Mum's washing line to air the tent off. We managed to meet up with Jigsaw at Cropredy as well *waves*. Great to have another face to put to a name on the screen
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Didn't you have glorious weather for Cropredy! I kick myself for not being more organised.
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Thank you, one and all, for the travel advice for my nephew's upcoming trip. I know he will appreciate all the fast and informative replies!
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: I remember walking in central London on a hot day being uncomfortable, but that Marathon must have been hell. There was a guy who had just finished laid flat out with someone sprinkling water on him. All the finishers had water poured on the back of their necks as they finished and I just hope they are OK.
One year the Boston Marathon was run when the temperature was in the nineties. People who lived along the route were encouraged to bring their hoses out and spray the runners.
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Boogie
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Morning all.
Just back from walking the pooch - he's getting on so our walks are extremely short, but he loves them all the same.
He's very intelligent, he can be fast asleep but one sniff of poo bag (they are scented) and he's up and wagging.
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I've had a free lunch today, paid for by my sister.
She has spent the last two weeks at the Olympics as one of the game makers, the people in the pink and purple uniforms, after having played a similar role in Vancouver two years ago. She flies back to Vancouver tomorrow.
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Ariel
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Not having seen anything of the closing ceremony, I've now seen the BBC clip of Boris* and the PM dancing to the Spice Girls. (Where was Nick Clegg while all this was going on?)
Just the roller-skating nuns to come now and that should complete my catch-up, unless there are other highlights I missed.
*Boris was really getting into it.
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Welease Woderwick
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Boris and David make such a lovely couple that perhaps Nick was jealous.
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Welease Woderwick
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It's Independence Day here - 65 years on from Nehru's famous "Midnight Hour" speech. In a minute we'll go on the roof and raise the flag.
I had a nasty shock in the city yesterday - the secondhand bookshop has closed! Or possibly it has just moved but the other one closed as well last year and I hope we are not faced with a city devoid of browsing places - that would be a Very Bad Thing.
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Happy flag waving WW!
I am cross with the weather forecast, it was wrong wrong wrong for yesterday. I postponed a fun trip because of it - grrrrrr!
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Welease Woderwick
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So a couple of weeks ago HWMBO had an appendectomy then today he goes out digging the garden and is surprised/resentful that he gets pains in his stomach and has to rest! I sometimes think he doesn't have an ounce of sense!
And, of course, I would never do anything like that, ever, now would I?
[Memories of coming home from a hernia repair and feeling okay so took the dog for a walk for about an hour - well, it was a nice day and the drugs were controlling the discomfort. Next day I felt every step I had taken!]
eta: I've just realised that I was older then than he is now - only by a year but I was older. [ 15. August 2012, 10:18: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
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Ariel
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Went for a wander with my new Canon Powershot camera yesterday evening. It took a little while to get the hang of the menus, but by the end of the evening we'd become inseparable friends. This little compact camera has manual control, as well as all the presets, so you can do the aperture/shutter thing if you want. It's a pleasure to use, the photos come out well and pleasing, and I wish I had got this camera before now.
Too much cake yesterday - there was a charity cake sale at work and someone provided quite the most wonderful mocha chocolate and walnut cake. Vegan, interestingly enough. Dark, rich, moist, utterly delicious with a coffee buttercream filling. I have no idea who made it but must get a recipe. [ 15. August 2012, 12:24: Message edited by: Ariel ]
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Welease Woderwick
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Good grief, Ariel - how many calories in a slice of that?
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Ariel
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For "walnut" read "almond". I've tracked down the person who made it and will be getting the recipe
Don't know about the calories. All I know is, I went back for a very small piece of seconds then an equally small piece of thirds and that counted as lunch.
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I'm just trying to prepare my Tom Tom Sat Nav for travelling. Updated from website so why is it not finding GPS signal now? Will take it outside in case fresh air helps but if not I will be taking a hammer to it. I love technology but it is not consistent!!!!! ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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The Sat Nag probably can't tell streets from canals if the weather is like what we have. I might venture into the street if the tide goes out.
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Today I have had a Ta Dah moment.... I have managed to set up my phone as a wi-fi hotspot so my laptop can get onto the interweb where I don't otherwise have access. It took around 6 hours or trying one way and another, then.... success! It's so the Soul Survivor survivors can use the You Tube footage of week C to share with us at church their experiences.
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Congratulations to Mr. Boog - I hope he's having a great time, because it all sounds like very hard work to me!!
And I love your drops!
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Japes
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Congratulations, Mr Boogie!
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Boogie
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quote: Originally posted by Nicodemia:
And I love your drops!
Thank you - I am looking for more this morning ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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Great achievement by Mr Boogie! Thankfully I am far too old to even contemplate such a trip.
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In other news HWMBO was given an ultrasound scan of his abdomen this morning, on top of the two CT Scans yesterday, and then pronounced problem free! I think we probably don't want to visit any more hospitals for a while.
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Great achievement by Mr Boogie! Thankfully I am far too old to even contemplate such a trip.
The oldest man was 71 and the oldest woman was 76 (she used to pace for John some days).
Just sayin' ....
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Welease Woderwick
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I am sure that when the alarm went this morning I was at least 106!
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Ariel
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When the alarm went this morning I stretched out to turn it off and promptly fell out of bed.
(Not sure what lessons to learn from this: dispense with the alarm clock? Get a bigger bed?) [ 17. August 2012, 12:13: Message edited by: Ariel ]
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Welease Woderwick
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My alarm is placed far enough away that I actually have to get out of bed to switch it off - the idea being that once I am up I will stay up.
There is not a lot of evidence to support this assertion.
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: When the alarm went this morning I stretched out to turn it off and promptly fell out of bed.
(Not sure what lessons to learn from this: dispense with the alarm clock? Get a bigger bed?)
Erk! (Get a closer bedside table!)
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: It's Independence Day here - 65 years on from Nehru's famous "Midnight Hour" speech. In a minute we'll go on the roof and raise the flag ...
Makes a change from what you sometimes do on the roof ... ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: It's Independence Day here - 65 years on from Nehru's famous "Midnight Hour" speech. In a minute we'll go on the roof and raise the flag ...
Makes a change from what you sometimes do on the roof ...
We're currently in Colchester with the outlaws, where it is Very Hot Indeed. Heading northwards tomorrow where I hope it'll be a bit cooler ...
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Cooler further north? Don't you believe it.
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Welease Woderwick
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tee hee, piglet - I think raising the flag in a state of total undress might cause a little controversy locally.
Our friend M is off for his scan today - I blame his headaches on his two brain cells occasionally colliding but agree that a scan seems a Good Idea.
Have fun Up North, piglet & DD - and I hope everyone else survives whatever the weather chooses to throw at you.
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Welease Woderwick
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The other day HWMBO and I were downtown and went in the local equivalent of the Pound Shop and bought Mrs E a couple of new aprons to replace the ones she has been using for a while and which look more than a little rammy.
This afternoon, when she wasn't looking, we confiscated the disreputable old ones and have hidden them from her so she'll have to use the new ones!
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And what if she finds them? You know she will. Cut them up instantly and turn them into cleaning rags.
Have you done that with more than a few of your shirts yet?
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Welease Woderwick
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The aprons are cut up - the shirts, not quite yet.
I have first to select the ones that deserve to go. I must confess that under the usual bad influence of you know who we have visited a few cloth shops over the last few months and I have had one or two [or possibly more] new shirts made.*
Last night young Muslim neighbour visited to ask my advice on another issue and said that he was looking forward to Eid and end of the fasting but not looking forward to the excessive feasting as he doesn't like to eat too much! This is one VERY strange 15 year old boy!
*Explanation for people unfamiliar with the culture here - it is far cheaper here to choose the cloth, buy the cloth, take it to a tailor and have a shirt made to measure to your exact specification than it is to buy a ready made shirt.
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Our much valued thread was in great danger of disappearing off the page, so I thought I had better rescue it!
For those who like to know, the weather has got a lot cooler and showers are threatened. Like yesterday, when I got caught in one and got hair-plastered-to-head drenched, as did the dog. And today rain clouds should come from the SW and dump their load straight on us unfortunates who live in Pennine country. (you there, Boogie - its coming your way!)
Right, that's got the weather out of the way.
I can offer coffee, tea with or without hobnobs, ginger nuts and plain digestives. All welcome.
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Welease Woderwick
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Thanks for the rescue mission, Nicodemia - it's terrible that we should let it slip that far down the page.
Big Festival here next week so we went to do a little light shopping this morning and spent A LOT OF MONEY!!!!! It is mostly edible comestibles so we shall enjoy them later, no doubt.
15 year old maths student neighbour was telling me last night about Eid celebrations at a cousins house last Sunday and how food was appearing out of the kitchen every 5 minutes and how it would have upset the mothers assembled in there cooking and having a great time if he and his cousins didn't eat enough - he said he got to the hugely uncomfortable stage and beyond - but he is not a quitter!
I've just noticed that the little packet of tissues here on my desk has a picture of penguins on the pack! Is there nowhere safe from their pernicious influence?
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quote: Originally posted by Nicodemia: And today rain clouds should come from the SW and dump their load straight on us unfortunates who live in Pennine country. (you there, Boogie - its coming your way!)
It didn't rain here (Rochdale) but I was at my Brother's near Clitheroe and it bucketed down. I have never seen spray so high above the car - the road was a river and the surface was being lifted up and swept away!
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