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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Snags:
Guilty of doing this myself, sadly
= It was OK for me to do it, but not for you.
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Anselmina
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
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Originally posted by Snags:
Guilty of doing this myself, sadly
= It was OK for me to do it, but not for you.
Sound of a drum-roll followed by clash on the high-hat ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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ChaliceGirl
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In a workplace:
"We need to think outside the box."= "We have run out of ideas and our old ideas didn't work."
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Welease Woderwick
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My favourite little bit of Quaker-speak is when Nominations Committee bring forward the name[s] for various posts and someone then says "Ah, that isn't a name that would have occurred to me." which, being interpreted, means "over my dead body!"
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Baptist Trainfan
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Originally posted by ChaliceGirl:
In a workplace:
"We need to think outside the box."= "We have run out of ideas and our old ideas didn't work."
True, but can anyone tell me where this box is to be found? And can you think outside it on days when there is no blue sky to be seen? Anyway, the elephant will probably force you out of the room before you've got that far, going forward. At least one doesn't need too much strength to push an envelope - but how do you know that you've chosen the right one? Perhaps it's iconic.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
how do you know that you've chosen the right one?
When "Management is pleased to announce . . ." (= my way or the highway).
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Thyme
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
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Originally posted by Snags:
*Guilty of doing this myself, sadly
Wouldn't worry about it, Snags. This whole thread constitutes about 95% of my everyday conversation. Without these phrases, I'd probably have nothing to say. Or no way to say what I want to say... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
So happy you said this Anselmina. I have been thinking the same thing. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) (About me of course - not you, I don't know you ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif) ).
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Anselmina
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Originally posted by Thyme:
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
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Originally posted by Snags:
*Guilty of doing this myself, sadly
Wouldn't worry about it, Snags. This whole thread constitutes about 95% of my everyday conversation. Without these phrases, I'd probably have nothing to say. Or no way to say what I want to say...
So happy you said this Anselmina. I have been thinking the same thing. (About me of course - not you, I don't know you ).
No, but now you'll be able to recognize me by my conversation should we ever happen to meet!
Especially if I start that conversation with something like: 'My, what a brave choice of colour that is!'
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And I reply "Thank you, it's so refreshing when people are not shy about making comments."
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All this is making me listen to the things people say in a whole new way. I feel called to solitude and silence.
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Enoch
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There was a discussion on R4 this morning about Orwell's Politics and the English Language. It reminded me of a job advert (genuine) I saw recently a senior management position. Here are some phrases from it.:-
"- "aligned and effective strategies";
- "the most effective models for achieving corporate priorities and responding to emerging needs";
- "deep rooted strategic partnerships and relationships";
- "identify and make the most of existing and potential synergies";
- "take a lead role in optimising and growing the use of our organisation’s resources by creatively using risk managed partnerships, collaborations and commercial ventures to best deliver the key services needed by customers";
- "ensuring that significantly improved outcomes for customers are secured"
= We are a collection of complete craphounds looking for someone just like us.
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"That could do with some more debate" = There's absolutely no way I would let that happen.
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One I used in an email the other day:
"We should be able to commence work on this later today"
= If we manage to finish the work other people have already given us before you
(silently: if you'd sent us the information when you were supposed to, you'd be out of my hair by now)
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"What a good idea!" = Never mention that again. Ever.
"What a good idea! We could..." = It's my idea now.
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churchgeek
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Originally posted by ChaliceGirl:
In a workplace:
"We need to think outside the box."= "We have run out of ideas and our old ideas didn't work."
In a(n Episcopal) church, it means either, "Why are we still using the Prayer Book?" or, if the person saying it is new clergy, "We did this in [seminary/the last church I was at] and I'd like to impose it here."
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Charles Read
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Long ago an older cleric told me that when a bishop asks you to take on a church with these words:
"This is a challenging post for a young / creative / dynamic priest"
what they mean is:
"This is a church in one hell of a mess and only an inexperienced priest would accept it because anybody else wouild have been around long enough not to worry about saying no to the bishop."
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The issue is being referred to a committee = we are going to put it off forever as it is one for the too hard basket.
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"Well if I don't see you over Christmas, have a good one" = I don't want to see you over Christmas.
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Enoch
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Telling the truth in love = really putting the knife in.
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glockenspiel
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[From women] ... "I will" = But maybe I wont
"I wont" = But maybe I will
"I might" = I definitely wont
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Firenze
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Originally posted by glockenspiel:
[From women] ... "I will" = But maybe I wont
"I wont" = But maybe I will
"I might" = I definitely wont
How unwonted.
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Enoch
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Having heard the Governor of the Bank of England being interviewed today, I was reminded of another.
Quantitative Easing = some sort of financial jiggery-pokery that involves printing money that doesn't exist and encouraging inflation.
[ 07. February 2013, 20:55: Message edited by: Enoch ]
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This hurts me more than it hurts you = this hurts you more than it hurts me
Your secret is safe with me = the whole office (congregation, staff room, whatever) will know your secret by lunchtime
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Baptist Trainfan
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"I'll pray for you" = "I've heard quite enough about your self-centred and petty problems and I really don't want to get involved. However, in the unlikely event that I actually remember this conversation beyond the next ten minutes, I might briefly mention your name before God - but don't count on it".
[N.B. If uttered by a peculiarly saintly person, these words may be understood in their literal sense and the above comments will not apply].
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"I'll pray for you" = "Don't expect any concrete action, from me at any rate".
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Enoch
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"Great Parliamentarian" = recently deceased or retired pompous windbag, who never fulfilled his (usually his) promise and spend 2-3 decades on the back benches.
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ChaliceGirl
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"I'll pray for you."= "I can't think of anything else to say."
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"Well, don't dwell on it" = Stop talking about the bad thing that's happening to you.
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Anna B
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Now here is a serious question. I once belonged to a church where one of the members would always mention "children at risk" during Prayers of the People. Am I right in thinking that "children at risk" is a euphemism for "children living in poverty"?
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Anna B:
Am I right in thinking that "children at risk" is a euphemism for "children living in poverty"?
Hard to generalize, but without any other cultural input I'd interpret it as meaning children in abusive situations.
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In the UK there is an official distinction between: children on the at risk register - thought to be at risk of neglectful, emotional, physical or sexual abuse - and "children in need". This is a category that includes children whose parents may be significantly disabled and are therefore young carers, or who are themselves significantly disabled and in need of extra support.
I imagine extreme poverty would fall within that definition in theory - but it is believed that everyone in the UK has access to the minimum money and shelter needed, so a poor family that was failing to provide adequate food or clothing for their children would end up with them on the at risk register under the neglect category.
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quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
There was a discussion on R4 this morning about Orwell's Politics and the English Language. It reminded me of a job advert (genuine) I saw recently a senior management position. Here are some phrases from it.:-
"- "aligned and effective strategies";
We want methods that work.
- "the most effective models for achieving corporate priorities and responding to emerging needs";
We want methods that work when things change, too.
- "deep rooted strategic partnerships and relationships";
We don't want you to piss off our allies.
- "identify and make the most of existing and potential synergies";
Try not to have more than one set of people doing the same thing.
- "take a lead role in optimising and growing the use of our organisation’s resources by creatively using risk managed partnerships, collaborations and commercial ventures to best deliver the key services needed by customers";
Sub-contract as much as possible so we can save money.
- "ensuring that significantly improved outcomes for customers are secured"
Make sure the sub-contractors don't fuck up.
= We are a collection of complete craphounds looking for someone just like us.
= We are a collection of complete craphounds looking for someone just like us.
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ChaliceGirl
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Originally posted by Anna B:
Now here is a serious question. I once belonged to a church where one of the members would always mention "children at risk" during Prayers of the People. Am I right in thinking that "children at risk" is a euphemism for "children living in poverty"?
Yes, also can mean children whose behavior may lead them to be on the wrong side of the law, or close to dropping out of school.
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Percy B
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I guess this point is not exactly a euphemism, rather coded talk.
Years ago 'a friend of Dorothy' I remember being used to mean he is gay. I don't quite know the reason but I also seem to think Dorothy in question was of the Wizard of Oz. (over the rainbow, perhaps? Maybe not!)
Now as I remember it it was just used for men, I don't recall it being used of lesbians, nor, come to think of it do I remember a lesbian equivalent.
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ChaliceGirl
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quote:
Originally posted by Percy B:
I guess this point is not exactly a euphemism, rather coded talk.
Years ago 'a friend of Dorothy' I remember being used to mean he is gay. I don't quite know the reason but I also seem to think Dorothy in question was of the Wizard of Oz. (over the rainbow, perhaps? Maybe not!)
Now as I remember it it was just used for men, I don't recall it being used of lesbians, nor, come to think of it do I remember a lesbian equivalent.
Yes, a lot of gay men love Judy Garland for some reason.
I haev heard these in reference to lesbians:
Fan of the LPGA
Melissa Etheridge fan
Ellen DeGeneres fan
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quote:
Originally posted by Percy B:
I guess this point is not exactly a euphemism, rather coded talk.
Years ago 'a friend of Dorothy' I remember being used to mean he is gay. I don't quite know the reason but I also seem to think Dorothy in question was of the Wizard of Oz. (over the rainbow, perhaps? Maybe not!)
Now as I remember it it was just used for men, I don't recall it being used of lesbians, nor, come to think of it do I remember a lesbian equivalent.
Friends of Dorothy is a pretty common term these days. The Wikipedia Article claims that "a friend of Mrs. King" e.g. a queen was a British coded phrase.
I wonder about the preface to the rhyme Oranges and Lemons
Gay go up and gay go down,
To ring the bells of London town.
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Palimpsest
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There is a euphemism among older Jewish men to refer to Jews such as themselves as "Canadians".
e.g. They don't get many Canadians as customers.
I had a discussion with a Canadian non-jewish friend who told me he had been in conversations where the phrase was used that way and had to protest that the term "Canadians" had only one meaning.
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quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I wonder about the preface to the rhyme Oranges and Lemons
Gay go up and gay go down,
To ring the bells of London town.
AFAIK, 'gay' has had the meaning 'homosexual' for less than fifty years, at least as far as widespread usage is concerned.
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Percy B
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quote:
Originally posted by ChaliceGirl:
quote:
Originally posted by Percy B:
I guess this point is not exactly a euphemism, rather coded talk.
Years ago 'a friend of Dorothy' I remember being used to mean he is gay. I don't quite know the reason but I also seem to think Dorothy in question was of the Wizard of Oz. (over the rainbow, perhaps? Maybe not!)
Now as I remember it it was just used for men, I don't recall it being used of lesbians, nor, come to think of it do I remember a lesbian equivalent.
Yes, a lot of gay men love Judy Garland for some reason.
I haev heard these in reference to lesbians:
Fan of the LPGA
Melissa Etheridge fan
Ellen DeGeneres fan
What is th LPGA?.
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Palimpsest
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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I wonder about the preface to the rhyme Oranges and Lemons
Gay go up and gay go down,
To ring the bells of London town.
AFAIK, 'gay' has had the meaning 'homosexual' for less than fifty years, at least as far as widespread usage is concerned.
Moo
The term "gay" to mean an immoral person, a prostitute, womanizer or other "moral degenerate" goes back several centuries further. While the wide spread use of the term gay as meaning homosexual is only fifty years old ( Gay Liberation Front and such), the coded use of the word goes back earlier, at least the 1920's.
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ChaliceGirl
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What is th LPGA?
Ladies Professional Golf Association, known for having its share of lesbian members.
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What about "Has a great face and a nice personality" for really obese?
A "bit of a perfectionist" for needs treatment for OCD.
Heard those recently, even though they're old as the hills.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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"She's a handsome woman" = "She has a face that could stop a clock."
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Teacher euphemisms:
He's a super kid = He will make your life a misery for at least six months, as he did to and I will be able to look all smug and superior in the staff room wit h me knowing you can't admit to hating him and you knowing that I know.
They're a smashing group = Don't turn your back on them, don't go into the stationery cupboard, and bring a chair and a whip for all Friday afternoons and last days of term.
The Deputy Head is very supportive = because, like the rest of us s/he knows the Head is completely useless.
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He/she has a great personality = fat and/or homely
From our church minutes: "A lively discussion took place" = it was a screaming match.
At a church potluck: "I would never thought of that combination" = really gross
I don't know if this counts as a euphemism, but in New England if someone says that the food is "not bad," means it's really very good.
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quote:
Originally posted by churchgeek:
when people are replying to something you've said/written/posted on facebook, and begin with:
"I don't know..." = "Oh, I do know, and you're dead wrong. I'm going to inform you now, but I don't want you thinking this is a debate; I don't want to hear your reply."
Oh so that's where I've been going wrong? When I want to communicate that someone has posted something wrong, I simply write "Incorrect." and then I write the correction. Been getting an awful lot of pushback when I do that, hmmm.
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Originally posted by Snags:
"Thank you for your feedback" - kindly sod off you swivel-eyed lunatic.
So true, I use that line all the time!
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Stetson
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"I'm not the most politically correct guy in the world." = "I am a screaming bigot."
"You'll either love him or you'll hate him." = "You'll hate him."
(That last one is not mine, some famous writer was quoted as making that translation.)
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Stetson
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SAID IN POLITICAL DISCOURSE...
"I think we need to hear more from people who have been previously shut out of the discussion." = "My viewpoint doesn't get the attention I think it deserves."
That one goes across the spectrum.
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ChaliceGirl
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"He's in between jobs."= He's unemployed.
"I mis-spoke."= I lied.
Church/work minutes: "The topic was discussed,a lengthy conversation ensued."= The minute taker was too lazy to write down every detail of the conversation.
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