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comet
Snowball in Hell
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I'll admit it. when I first came to the Ship forums, Left at the Altar and Corpus Cani both had nun icons.
I thought they were both actual nuns.
for, like, months.
anyone else have mistaken assumptions they want to get off their chest? come on, confession is good for the soul.
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W Hyatt
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When I first joined, I had the definite impression that §Andrew (later El Greco) was thoroughly big-O Orthodox, but that impression turned out to be somewhat suspect when he later renounced his belief in a personal God of any sort.
Also, when I first joined, I assumed that it would be possible to carry on an extended, thoughtful discussion about reasons for being atheist vs. theist, with each side trying to understand the other's point of view. That assumption has also turned out to be somewhat suspect.
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Piglet
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For reasons I can't explain, it's taken me rather a long time to work out that Ariston's a bloke.
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Edith
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I thought Trisagion was an Archbishop at least.
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Smudgie
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quote: Originally posted by piglet: For reasons I can't explain, it's taken me rather a long time to work out that Ariston's a bloke.
She is ?????!!!!
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The Great Gumby
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quote: Originally posted by W Hyatt: Also, when I first joined, I assumed that it would be possible to carry on an extended, thoughtful discussion about reasons for being atheist vs. theist, with each side trying to understand the other's point of view. That assumption has also turned out to be somewhat suspect.
Likewise for any point of significant disagreement between (or even within) denominations.
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Heavenly Anarchist
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"I thought this was a Christian website" (Flounce)
I thought Ariston was female too.
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North East Quine
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As a Presbyterian who grew up with the notion, I assumed I understood Predestination until I joined the Ship.
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Evensong
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I thought Sioni Sais was a catholic and chive a ministry student.
I still think they're lying when they tell me they aren't.
I also thought I knew it all. [ 07. March 2013, 11:41: Message edited by: Evensong ]
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: I also thought I knew it all.
yeah, me too. boy was I wrong.
that revelation has been a bit rough at times.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: I thought Sioni Sais was a catholic and chive a ministry student.
I still think they're lying when they tell me they aren't.
I also thought I knew it all.
Close. I was baptised RC and AFAIK, Rome never lets go.
There used to be some out there who thought I was female. Mind you, I used to think my avatar depicted Lenin!
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St. Gwladys
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: There used to be some out there who thought I was female.
That's where it's helpful to be able to speak a little bit of Welsh!
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by W Hyatt:
Also, when I first joined, I assumed that it would be possible to carry on an extended, thoughtful discussion about reasons for being atheist vs. theist, with each side trying to understand the other's point of view. That assumption has also turned out to be somewhat suspect.
I would say that this is misleading. I think the majority (of regular posters, at least) would indeed be able. There are a few, very vocal, exceptions who make this more of a challenge. ETA: and they bring out a more vociferous response from the potentially more reasonable opposition. [ 07. March 2013, 18:52: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
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lilBuddha
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On topic, I admit to having difficulty accepting female icons/names for male posters and the reverse.
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Ariel
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Hands up anyone who didn't think Mama Thomas was a woman...
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BroJames
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My first impression of erroneous (*) was that she was a man (an anonymous man), but she turns out to be a woman. (* erroneous monk)
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W Hyatt
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quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: quote: Originally posted by W Hyatt:
Also, when I first joined, I assumed that it would be possible to carry on an extended, thoughtful discussion about reasons for being atheist vs. theist, with each side trying to understand the other's point of view. That assumption has also turned out to be somewhat suspect.
I would say that this is misleading. I think the majority (of regular posters, at least) would indeed be able. There are a few, very vocal, exceptions who make this more of a challenge. ETA: and they bring out a more vociferous response from the potentially more reasonable opposition.
Yes, exactly. The effect seems to be that it makes extended, thoughtful discussions on the topic virtually impossible. But I appreciate the attempts that you and others make to contribute to the cause of thoughtful discussions.
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A.Pilgrim
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Mind you, I used to think my avatar depicted Lenin!
No - it's Tom Wright, isn't it?
quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: On topic, I admit to having difficulty accepting female icons/names for male posters and the reverse.
That's really interesting, and almost worth a Purg thread in its own right. (My next comment needs to be understood in the light of my understanding you to be female...) I thought that women were in general more comfortable with gender ambiguity than men are.
Angus (An unmistakeably gender-marked name )
P.S. I could add something on-topic regarding my first impressions, later changed, about a shipmate, but my comment would probably be rather un-Heavenly.
[edit to re-phrase] [ 07. March 2013, 19:58: Message edited by: A.Pilgrim ]
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: Hands up anyone who didn't think Mama Thomas was a woman...
I think he explained the meaning of "Mama" in his first post. But it still threw me for quite a while.
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Moo
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quote: Originally posted by Pigwidgeon: quote: Originally posted by Ariel: Hands up anyone who didn't think Mama Thomas was a woman...
I think he explained the meaning of "Mama" in his first post.
I think I had already heard of Mama as a title.
Moo
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no prophet's flag is set so...
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Mind you, I used to think my avatar depicted Lenin!
I initially thought it depicted Freud.
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: ... female icons/names for male posters and the reverse.
Although my avatar's a man, I was quite surprised when someone referred to me as "he"; I sign off with my RL name, which I think is fairly unambiguously female.
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by A.Pilgrim: quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: On topic, I admit to having difficulty accepting female icons/names for male posters and the reverse.
That's really interesting, and almost worth a Purg thread in its own right. (My next comment needs to be understood in the light of my understanding you to be female...) I thought that women were in general more comfortable with gender ambiguity than men are.
It has more to do with the visual cues. I have difficulty when people change avatars as well. BTW, of all the adjectives applied to me, typical has never been one of them.
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Surfing Madness
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I hate to say this Piglet but I thought you were male to begin with. When I've played mafia on here, I often pick a male character, people then seem to assume that I'm male IRL too.
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St. Gwladys
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I still get pulled up short when people comment about their age - I suppose taking part in a discussion board always seems such a young thing to do.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: On topic, I admit to having difficulty accepting female icons/names for male posters and the reverse.
I thought you were male for ages. Buddha.
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Ariston
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quote: Originally posted by Smudgie: quote: Originally posted by piglet: For reasons I can't explain, it's taken me rather a long time to work out that Ariston's a bloke.
She is ?????!!!!
I think Gwai thought I was a woman at one point as well, so that's four.
I'll take the compliments where I can get 'em.
Of course, now I'm wondering why everyone thought I was female—granted, "Ariston" (or AA) are only gendered names if you're not up on your semi-obscure ancient Greek names, so the non-classicists in the audience have a 50/50 shot of getting it right. Still, it seems I'm with lB on the list of most consistently regendered Shippies . . .
Of course, I always thought lilBuddha looked something like this...
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: Of course, I always thought lilBuddha looked something like this...
The Squee! factor on that one!
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Welease Woderwick
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Just as long as nobody actually thought that I have three [or four or, originally, five] heads!
I got enormously confused about gender when I was first here and was another one convinced LATA was a nun - but then Glenda Jackson's Nasty Habits is a favourite movie.
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Smudgie
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: quote: Originally posted by Smudgie: quote: Originally posted by piglet: For reasons I can't explain, it's taken me rather a long time to work out that Ariston's a bloke.
She is ?????!!!!
I think Gwai thought I was a woman at one point as well, so that's four.
I'll take the compliments where I can get 'em.
[aside] I was actually joking. Ariston I always had labelled as male, my biggest confusion - along with several other people - was Kingsfold who actually turned out to be female, not male.
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Boogie
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Add me to the list Ariston, I had you as female until three minutes ago!
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kingsfold
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It's still a fairly common mistake...
I don't mind. It probably didn't help that I was Cadfael for a brief while...
(And yes, we do have another shipmate by that name who is male, but since it wasn't the name either of us registed by, it didn't register as a "taken" name once I reverted to kingsfold.)
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kankucho
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: Of course, now I'm wondering why everyone thought I was female—granted, "Ariston" (or AA) are only gendered names if you're not up on your semi-obscure ancient Greek names, so the non-classicists in the audience have a 50/50 shot of getting it right.
Well, that's my claim to erudition put firmly in its place. I thought you were a washing machine.
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Of course, I always thought lilBuddha looked something like this...
Snap!
(@ orfeo: The buddhahood of women is finally revealed in the Lotus Sutra, btw. Sorry if that constitutes a spoiler to anyone who hasn't got to that chapter yet )
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ken
Ship's Roundhead
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quote: Originally posted by W Hyatt: When I first joined, I had the definite impression that §Andrew (later El Greco) was thoroughly big-O Orthodox
So, I think, did he.
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by kankucho: (@ orfeo: The buddhahood of women is finally revealed in the Lotus Sutra, btw. Sorry if that constitutes a spoiler to anyone who hasn't got to that chapter yet )
Put that in your myriads of kotis and smoke it.
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Hedgehog
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quote: Originally posted by kankucho: (@ orfeo: The buddhahood of women is finally revealed in the Lotus Sutra, btw. Sorry if that constitutes a spoiler to anyone who hasn't got to that chapter yet )
That's okay. Fortunately I finished reading the Lotus Sutra last year. But just don't tell anybody the surprise ending!!!!
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rolyn
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I made a long post to Anselmina , convinced in my head that she was from across the Pond . That pond turned out to be the Irish Sea .
The reason being that I had previously clocked 'The Munster Wilderness' as her location and had thought it was one of those silly ones which referred to the American TV show 'The Munsters'.
Doh !
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Adeodatus
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Nearly ten years here and my impression that everyone looks like their avatar is still going strong.
It can get very confusing sometimes.
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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< Wanders casually in front of Adeodatus' mind's eye >
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John Holding
Coffee and Cognac
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quote: Originally posted by Adeodatus: Nearly ten years here and my impression that everyone looks like their avatar is still going strong.
It can get very confusing sometimes.
Speaking personally, that's kind of disturbing.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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my avatar is a photograph of me.
no, really.
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Moo
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Do you really think I look like a mountain?
Granted I have a weight problem, but it's not that bad.
Moo
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Adeodatus
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quote: Originally posted by Moo: Do you really think I look like a mountain?
Granted I have a weight problem, but it's not that bad.
Moo
You're ... scenic.
comet's avatar is obviously a photo, just like mine is.
John Holding scares me a bit - what nameless horror is hiding behind that mug?
And Doublethink ... hm ... don't take this the wrong way, but the expression "mind bleach" comes to mind. I'm a delicate soul.
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Amika
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Surely Trisagion is really Q from Star Trek The Next Generation? And I definitely look just like my avatar .
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bib
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Embarrassing mistake made at work, not on the ship. A young physiotherapist who has very short hair and is skinny with no female curves can easily pass for a male. The trouble is, I encountered her for the first time in the ladies' toilets and I'm afraid firmly pointed out to her that this was a female establishment and that the gents was next door. I still cringe with embarrassment whenever I see her.
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Lothlorien
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quote: Originally posted by bib: Embarrassing mistake made at work, not on the ship. A young physiotherapist who has very short hair and is skinny with no female curves can easily pass for a male. The trouble is, I encountered her for the first time in the ladies' toilets and I'm afraid firmly pointed out to her that this was a female establishment and that the gents was next door. I still cringe with embarrassment whenever I see her.
That's on a par with asking "when are you due?" to someone who is not pregnant at all.
I'm much holier than my avatar shows.
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kankucho
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quote: Originally posted by Hedgehog: quote: Originally posted by kankucho: (@ orfeo: The buddhahood of women is finally revealed in the Lotus Sutra, btw. Sorry if that constitutes a spoiler to anyone who hasn't got to that chapter yet )
That's okay. Fortunately I finished reading the Lotus Sutra last year. But just don't tell anybody the surprise ending!!!!
As a Bodhisattva of the Earth, I'm afraid I'm mission-bound to do just that!
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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My avatars have consisted of a black hole, a ship of fools logo and a flaming lyre.
Whatever Adeodatus thinks I look like, it can't be good.
PS Okay, the black hole was probably, technically, speaking, an eclipsed sun. I'm not sure that helps. [ 12. March 2013, 01:35: Message edited by: orfeo ]
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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quote: Originally posted by Moo: Do you really think I look like a mountain?
Granted I have a weight problem, but it's not that bad.
Moo
[serious moment] in my mind you don't actually look like a mountain, obviously. but you DO bring to mind calm, soothing, cool-headedness from getting away from chaos and embracing the simple truth; which to me is perfectly expressed in the shades of green and blue and the soft mist.
so yes - in my mental landscape, your avatar is perfect for you. [/serious moment]
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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quote: Originally posted by bib: Embarrassing mistake made at work, not on the ship. A young physiotherapist who has very short hair and is skinny with no female curves can easily pass for a male. The trouble is, I encountered her for the first time in the ladies' toilets and I'm afraid firmly pointed out to her that this was a female establishment and that the gents was next door. I still cringe with embarrassment whenever I see her.
hey, I once seriously mistook someone for a dog. no shit. I feel your pain.
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