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uffda
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Lutherans have all kinds of communion services. Some could be without singing, as in an early Sunday morning communion. Some might have hymns without a sung liturgy. And some Lutherans have a very idiosyncratic half and half sung liturgy, where the pastor speaks his or her part, e.g. "The Lord be with you," and the congregation sings the response, "And also with you." (This is discouraged in general, but is still known in many places.) Not that my place is typical, but in the summer, our main service (9:00am) is sung (high mass); our 10:30 service is spoken; and our Wednesday evening service has hymns but no sung liturgy.
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PD
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quote: Originally posted by venbede: Thank you. Do Lutherans ever have a said Communion service? (I'm getting the impression that they don't typically, whereas in the C of E Holy Communion was almost only without singing until the C19.)
Back in the day Luther basically wanted to reform the High Mass, hence the Formula Missae and the Deusche Messe which are both basically sung liturgies. It is a bit unsure what Cranmer was aiming to do with the Eucharistic liturgy other than make the main object after Communion preaching, but the influence of the Reformed tradition tended to reduce the Communion service to a spoken appendage of the usual main service of Matins, Litany, Ante-Communion and Sermon. Two hundred years later Rationalism did much the same to the Communion service in Germany. American Lutheranism tends to blend German and Scandanavian traditions which tends to explain why until recent years the Communion was not every week but was usually sung. PD
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Galloping Granny
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Nice to be reminded of summer!
In our summer holidays, as clergy take turns to vacation, we do a bit of visiting/ sharing. We at W** Presbyterian host N** Union and St Luke's Anglican, then next week we visit N** along with J** Union, and finally we tootle along to St Luke's.
Now, the first two are normal fairly formal hymn sandwich with excellent preaching (about 15 minutes), and we then look forward to a dose of traditional liturgy at St Luke's. But what does the vicar do? She turns on a Café Church session in the hall, where we are welcomed by a very loud praise band, sit at tables with our coffee and muffins, discuss an issue, and share bread and wine in some form more familiar to our Presy custom.
Last summer I was in a group discussing aspects of baptism, and I had with difficulty to interrupt a heated discussion between the vicar's husband, who maintained that there were circumstances in which it was possible to be baptised a second time, and my Anglican friend who was outraged at his attitude. I do wish the vicar wouldn't do it! I've had a word with a friend on the vestry...
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My contribution to the summer antics was nothing any more serious than wearing a fiddleback chasuble to celebrate the Eucharist this morning. I amd usually a gothic chasubles man, but it was hot and humid, and our A/C units were struggling to keep up. I purchased the aforementioned green fiddleback in the days before the church has Air Conditioning, and I was a little surprised that I had to drag it out this morning.
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My contribution to summer liturgy at the moment is to where waterproof trousers to church. The concept of a church anywhere near here requiring air-con is... well, amusing, in a sort of dark way...
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Vacations and goings on in the parish have led to an interesting array of main services. Last week was high mass without an organist,this week was high mass with an organist but our thurifer never showed and neither did the other two men in the schola. Next week is low mass, and the week after I'll be going on vacation so I have mo idea who's going to be the M.C.
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The Scrumpmeister
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I have just sent out the monthly news updates to the parish G+ list and let everyone know that our weekday devotions are being knocked on the head until September. When we were in my parish priest's house, church used to shut down for a fortnight when he went on holiday but now we're in the church, we keep Sunday services going. Earlier this year, for the first time, we had a reasonable number for such a service so I hope we have a repeat of that next month - this looks promising as some of our faithful "core" have already been away for the summer and come back again. [ 24. July 2012, 08:11: Message edited by: Michael Astley ]
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Bishops Finger
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Our weekday services continue as per schedule, with just one or two of the regulars missing. However, Sunday numbers have been a little lower than I anticipated - with a couple of families on holiday and some other peeps on sick leave, the Parish Mass congregation has been somewhat sparse for the last two weeks!
Still, it's business as usual (and I'm looking forward to my own short holiday in la belle France at the end of September......)
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I dread to think what turn out was like in my shak yesterday; I was away on "pointy hat duty" and I think that about half-a-dozen of the regulars were away too. That would have put us under 30
OTOH I had a great time singing Mass in one of our new missions in North Carolina after a Missions focussed Clericus. I suspect we are a bit unusual in that we have a thing in our jurisdiction about good liturgy being "missional" - to use the current buzzword - as we have an odd alliance of Prayer Book Catholic and moderate Evangelical in the UECNA. In a lot of cases our priests are PBC in liturgy but are moderate Evangelicals in their theological outlook.
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Archbishop Jensen, is that you?
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