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Lord Jestocost
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Originally posted by Gill H:
The worst to try and cut is 'While Shepherds Watched' as it doesn't make sense if you do. One reason not to sing it to the otherwise fun 'Ilkley Moor' as it goes on for ages.
Sing it to the tune of Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, however, and it flies by.
I'm also with Chorister on the choruses. There must be a happy medium between the endless dirges of the OP and the endless recycled whoops of "Jesus is my boyfriend tra la la".
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sebby
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But withput wishing to digress, I'd rather sing 32 verses of ANY carol, than have to sit through more than three minutes of boring, draggy, around the houses intercessions .
At least the Prayer for the Church Militant (and I'm no great BCP fanatic) just got on with it, with the subliminal feeling that God knows anyway.
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Quinquireme
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I'm organist of an Anglo-Catholic parish church in London. If I choose to skip a verse or two, I just have to go up to the microphone and announce it or get a clergyperson to do so. We use hymn books (numbers displayed on boards), and the service sheets do not have the hymn texts.
Incidentally, if you object to certain verses, have a look at this blog, I like it very much:-
http://cathythinks.blogspot.co.uk/
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american piskie
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I used to enjoy Fr Leslie Arnold's regime at SS Mary & John in Cowley where, if the offertory hymn (or whatever) was too long to cover the action then it was cut brutally short by a movement of the MC's hand; and if too short we went back to verse 1 and started all over again.
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Vulpior
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I like singing, even though I don't do so well, so I generally don't like it when an opportunity to do so is truncated.
In a former place the pew sheet specified, "We omit the starred verses from the hymns." Ancient & Modern Revised provides suitable stars; it doesn't, IIRC, cut out parts of a theological sequence when it does so, though I can't remember whether it has all seven (all essential) verses of "At the name of Jesus" to begin with.
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Freddy
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Originally posted by Vulpior:
I like singing, even though I don't do so well, so I generally don't like it when an opportunity to do so is truncated.
As a member of the committee that produced my denomination's most recent hymnal this was especially the issue for the Christmas hymns.
People like them, so there is great resistance to truncating them.
For the rest of the year, other than the beloved Easter hymns, we easily snipped them all down to three verses with no objections.
We even added a verse back in to "Brightest and best of the sons of the morning" (the one about the "odors of Edom and offerings divine") due to popular request.
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Arethosemyfeet
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I rather like the Ancient & Modern custom of putting a goodly selection of "processional" versions of hymns with more verses than you can shake a stick at towards the end of the book, and putting asterisks in the main part to allow selection.
My opinion on trimming verses depends very much on whether I like the hymn in question. I'll gladly trim every single verse of ATBAB, for example.
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Anselmina
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Oh, Trisagion! You've just given me the best laugh I've had in ages ![[Smile]](smile.gif) . I can only imagine what was going through your head when you realized - having begun - that you were committed to your treble solo!
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Anselmina
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Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
I rather like the Ancient & Modern custom of putting a goodly selection of "processional" versions of hymns with more verses than you can shake a stick at towards the end of the book, and putting asterisks in the main part to allow selection.
'We will now sing hymn number whatever, omitting the starred verses', is a much loved forumula in our church.
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Enoch
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Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
... I'll gladly trim every single verse of ATBAB, for example.
What's ATBAB code for please?
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Anselmina
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I'm guessing it's All Things Bright and Beautiful. Sometimes known as 'All things B&B.'
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Enoch
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Thank you.
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HCH
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As a practical matter, if I have to sing four or more hymns and every verse of each, I may find my voice deteriorating by the end. If you can offer me a break to get a drink of water, that would be nice.
It seems to me that this is related to the question of how long a service/mass should last. I believe there have been other threads on that question.
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SvitlanaV2
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Originally posted by HCH:
As a practical matter, if I have to sing four or more hymns and every verse of each, I may find my voice deteriorating by the end. If you can offer me a break to get a drink of water, that would be nice.
Carry a bottle of water with you. Or in fact, just a bottle, and fill it up with water when you get to church. This is what I used to do when I was in a (very humble) church choir.
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Anselmina
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Originally posted by HCH:
As a practical matter, if I have to sing four or more hymns and every verse of each, I may find my voice deteriorating by the end. If you can offer me a break to get a drink of water, that would be nice.
It seems to me that this is related to the question of how long a service/mass should last. I believe there have been other threads on that question.
Perhaps we were hardier in past years. I remember sung evensong and matins; four full hymns, sung responses, anthem, full complement of sung canticles and psalms. And not even the opportunity to get a polo-mint out of its packet. (Bottles of water in the choir-stalls? We'd've been massacred by the choir-mistress!)
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