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Lyda*Rose

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quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I won't stop scrolling past deano's posts in Purg, but his rant against ken isn't half bad as fictional invective.

The slight problem with that is that he's a troll, deliberately trying to make every thread about him, and if you ignore his posts you'll be left scratching your head about what started the madness.
Oh, I know he's annoying and likely deliberately. Thus the scrolling. But face it, we are all feeding him right now in our own ways. Very few people seem to have the will power to not feed the troll. And I'm not among those few. All I can do is look after my own blood pressure.

But thanks for the advice. [Smile]

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
I confess myself a little disappointed with the quality of the insults. I mean, “look in a mirror”, “fuckwit”. Dear, dear. It’s playground stuff! It’s “See that poo there? That’s you that is!”, which is funny when seven year olds do it but I thought people with IQ’s as large as some of yours would have put in a little more effort.

It’s not the sentiment that disappoints, but the reliance on tedious cliché. Where is the wit? Oscar Wilde can rest easy, that’s for sure.

This is, by the way, a marker for shrill trolls, generally ones who are about to get bounced. The "your insults aren't good enough" meme just screams juvenile troll. "Is that the best you've got?" (ITTBYG?) might need to become another acro like ITTWACWS. It's passed beyond cliche and into legend.

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Alan Cresswell

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quote:
Originally posted by jbohn:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Appears to be two options on the table:

code:
$ apt-get uninstall deano  

code:
$ apt-get uninstall Hell  


You forgot the current option:

code:
10 PRINT 'DEANO IS A FUCKWIT'
20 GOTO 10


Your current option is very basic. I would go with
code:
while(DeanoActsLikeAFuckwit)
{
printf("Deano is a fuckwit");
}


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Alan Cresswell

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Now for an official bit:

 

Deano,

You have been told in the past about acting like a fuckwit (actually the phrases used were 'trolling' , 'inflammatory posting', 'pervasively disruptive on multiple threads' ... but it amounts to the same thing). You have been banned, and reinstated. I suggest you re-read the email sent to you (8th May 2007, from Laura if that helps you locate it) when you were let back on. Those conditions for re-instatement still apply ... and you are very, very close to breaching those conditions.

Alan
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deano
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I reject the accusation of being a troll. That might apply were I posting stuff I didn't believe, but I stand by all of my opinions.

I am not going to pretend to hold left-wing views, which it looks like I'm being pressured into.

Would a host post something specific they have an objection to please as this particular thread contained nothing from Ken to back up his insults. Preferably highlighting the style issue that is exercising everyone.

I have a number of pm's from people who feel that I'm in the right on a number of issues, but they don't feel comfortable showing that support on the boards because of the reaction they can expect. Is that healthy on a board about religion? Why do people fear to post dissenting views about political issues? I won't reveal their names but I'll certainly pass the hosts the content of those pm's privately.

But as I say, I will certainly review any specific issues with regard to style with the hosts.

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IntellectByProxy

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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Appears to be two options on the table:

code:
$ apt-get uninstall deano  

code:
$ apt-get uninstall Hell  


Perhaps someone can explain to me why 'ranga' is banned down here, but the above shit passes without comment?
The above shit was funny and was an insult aimed at a particular person for being a fuckwit.

"Ranga" is not funny and is an insult aimed at a trait* shared by a group of people, therefore falls into the same verboten category as "mong" or "spaz".

*my research into this area is limited, but from my reading of Minchin et al I understand this to be a contraction of 'orangutan' and used as a term of abuse for people with red hair

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Marvin the Martian

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
I confess myself a little disappointed with the quality of the insults. I mean, “look in a mirror”, “fuckwit”. Dear, dear. It’s playground stuff!

Ach, at least finish it off properly. For old time's sake if nothing else! "IT'S WAR WITH NO LIMITS!!1!" [Big Grin]

(now there was a troll worthy of the name...)

quote:
Originally posted by deano:
I have a number of pm's from people who feel that I'm in the right on a number of issues, but they don't feel comfortable showing that support on the boards because of the reaction they can expect.

And here's another old standard - the lurkers support me in email!

Man, if I was playing the troll drinking game I'd be well on the way by now [Smile] ...

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Matt Black

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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Appears to be two options on the table:

code:
$ apt-get uninstall deano  

code:
$ apt-get uninstall Hell  


Perhaps someone can explain to me why 'ranga' is banned down here, but the above shit passes without comment?
I understood it and I'm not remotely a techie.

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Spike

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
I reject the accusation of being a troll. That might apply were I posting stuff I didn't believe, but I stand by all of my opinions.

Nobody is accusing you of posting stuff you don't believe. According to the Urban Dictionary a troll is someone who "posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument". That's what you appear to be doing.

quote:
I am not going to pretend to hold left-wing views, which it looks like I'm being pressured into.
[qb]
Cut the martyr crap. You're not the only Tory on the boards - not by a long way.

quote:
[qb]I have a number of pm's from people who feel that I'm in the right on a number of issues, but they don't feel comfortable showing that support on the boards because of the reaction they can expect.

If these people really exists and if they really think that, then they obviously don't understand how this place works.
quote:
Is that healthy on a board about religion?
ITTWACW! I was wondering how long that would take"

quote:
Why do people fear to post dissenting views about political issues?

Most people don't. There are several current threads in both Purgatory and Dead Horses where opposing views are being debated.

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Dark Knight

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt Black:
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Appears to be two options on the table:

code:
$ apt-get uninstall deano  

code:
$ apt-get uninstall Hell  


Perhaps someone can explain to me why 'ranga' is banned down here, but the above shit passes without comment?
I understood it and I'm not remotely a techie.
Congratulations. What do you want, a fucking medal?
My point is, as I'm sure can figure out, that this as least as obscure as the slang word, with no explanation offered.

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Rosa Winkel

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We're doing with with Ship of Fools Bingo (no, not him) so far.

"PMS of support"

"It's because of my political views"

"The admin are out for me"

"I'm a victim"

We just need ITTWACW (deano, that means I thought this was a Christian website) now.

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Matt Black

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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Black:
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Appears to be two options on the table:

code:
$ apt-get uninstall deano  

code:
$ apt-get uninstall Hell  


Perhaps someone can explain to me why 'ranga' is banned down here, but the above shit passes without comment?
I understood it and I'm not remotely a techie.
Congratulations. What do you want, a fucking medal?
My point is, as I'm sure can figure out, that this as least as obscure as the slang word, with no explanation offered.

The real point is that even if you are not familiar with the tech-speak, you can work it out without having to resort to a search engine, whereas you can't with 'ranga'. You do get that, don't you?

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quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
We're doing with with Ship of Fools Bingo (no, not him) so far [...] We just need ITTWACW (deano, that means I thought this was a Christian website) now.

Looking at Spike's post, think you might already have it...

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Evangeline
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quote:
Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Appears to be two options on the table:

code:
$ apt-get uninstall deano  

code:
$ apt-get uninstall Hell  


Perhaps someone can explain to me why 'ranga' is banned down here, but the above shit passes without comment?
The above shit was funny and was an insult aimed at a particular person for being a fuckwit.

"Ranga" is not funny and is an insult aimed at a trait* shared by a group of people, therefore falls into the same verboten category as "mong" or "spaz".

*my research into this area is limited, but from my reading of Minchin et al I understand this to be a contraction of 'orangutan' and used as a term of abuse for people with red hair

The word ranga was explicitly NOT banned for its potentially racist, bigoted or derogatory overtones but because it is an expression that is not known on the ship.
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Rosa Winkel

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quote:
Originally posted by Stejjie:
quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
We're doing with with Ship of Fools Bingo (no, not him) so far [...] We just need ITTWACW (deano, that means I thought this was a Christian website) now.

Looking at Spike's post, think you might already have it...
Indeed.

I left out accusations of dogpiling in The Styx.

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Marvin the Martian

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As there don't seem to be any Hellhosts around right now I'm going to stop this before it takes over the whole thread.

Discussion of Ship's policy as pertains to whether certain words, phrases or snippets of geek code are permitted or not should take place in The Styx. Do not continue this tangent here.

Marvin
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deano
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No specific posts then? Pity.

I don't think there is anything I can post that won't be twisted by some of you into an insult and they are very good at it. Must be the years and years and years of practice at it. They have become so good at keeping people out that it's unconcsious, a reflex.

It seems that quite a few people have given the same sort of message judging by how efficiently and smoothly it was rejected. you even have acronyms all ready to fire off! There is no smoke without fire.

I'm done with this thread as it really does seem to be about nothing apart from a rant-fest. I've asked a few times for specifics and got nothing back, so it's a thorough dead end in my opinion.

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Matt Black

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Specifics? Just about pretty much every post in the last few days...

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt Black:
Specifics? Just about pretty much every post in the last few days...

deano has decided on the topics he wants others to be specific about, but they carry on being specific about other things. Everyone else is wrong, wrong, wrong! Poor deano [Waterworks]

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Rosa Winkel

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
you even have acronyms all ready to fire off!

Most places I have worked in have their own in-jokes and acronyms. Newcomers often don't get the context. The question is whether this lack of context is used as a weapon against you.

If only someone had told you what ITTWACW meant [Waterworks]

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Ceannaideach
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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
Germans, Americans and Scots - I wonder who he'll hate next?

Now the Scottish... well fair point.


Wee Scunner.

Translation by Pterry Pratchett

'Scunner' is a Scots word for something or someone to which/whom you've taken a strong dislike.

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North East Quine

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Mair nor a wee scunner - 'at deano is a girny, carnaptious, ill-fashit gypit eejit.

(More than a wee scunner - that deano is a whiny, disgruntled, ill-tempered daft idiot.)

Fit, apairt fae wir socialist politics an wir reid, reid hair, (as reid as the flag than aince flew o'er George Square) dis he hae agin Scots?

(What, apart from our socialist politics and our red, red hair (as red as the flag which once flew over George Square) does he have against Scots?

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orfeo

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quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
If only someone had told you what ITTWACW meant [Waterworks]

I fear your gifts of irony might be wasted here.

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Robert Armin

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Mair nor a wee scunner - 'at deano is a girny, carnaptious, ill-fashit gypit eejit.

(More than a wee scunner - that deano is a whiny, disgruntled, ill-tempered daft idiot.)

Fit, apairt fae wir socialist politics an wir reid, reid hair, (as reid as the flag than aince flew o'er George Square) dis he hae agin Scots?

(What, apart from our socialist politics and our red, red hair (as red as the flag which once flew over George Square) does he have against Scots?

They're more intelligent than he is?

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jbohn
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
quote:
Originally posted by jbohn:

code:
10 PRINT 'DEANO IS A FUCKWIT'
20 GOTO 10


Your current option is very basic. I would go with
code:
while(DeanoActsLikeAFuckwit)
{
printf("Deano is a fuckwit");
}


I C what you did there... [Biased]

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Alan Cresswell

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
No specific posts then? Pity.

I've onlyjust got onto the Ship again since my post this morning (well, I have work to do and for some reason everything always needs to be done before Christmas). I'd credited you with sufficient common sense to have realised yourself where the ways you express what you believe have been getting up people's noses (note: the style of your posts, not your actual views). But, here are a couple of examples that I would suggest you ponder.

Insults based on mental illness are a wee* bit below the belt.

There are numerous examples of posts based on perceived characteristics of large groups of people identified by minor points, usually unrelated to the characteristics you don't like. Whether those traits are nationality (American, Scottish etc) or hair colour, or anything else. This does make you appear a wee bit bigotted. I'm not saying you are a bigot, but your posts make you look like you are.

 

* 'wee' is a Scots term meaning "a little bit" with connotations of "an awful lot" in many contexts.

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balaam

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deano. Look back at the earlier Hell threads with your name on. In amongst the name calling and vitriol there were a number of posts advising you how to post here. Even in Hell there's no need to be nasty.

I strongly suggest that before you post again you go back and look at that advice and act on it.

An Admin has put you on a last warning. If you wish to continue to post here I suggest that you heed that warning, because if you do not you will, sooner or later, be suspended from this site.

What I like about this site is that it allows for the widest possible range of viewpoints. The Purgatory, Ecclesiantics, Kerygmania and Dead Horses boards are for (mostly) friendly disagreement. When things get beyond friendly they tend to end up here.

As I see it you have only one option: To change the style in which you post, and continue to post here. There are many people started off posting like a jerk who learned to change the style, but not the content, of what they post and stay here. I know, I'm one of them. You don't have to change your views, just give people who disagree with you more respect.

On the other hand, if you do not change, you are giving a very clear signal to the Hosts and Administrators that you do not wish to behave within the rules of this site. If you are suspended, or even banned, it will be your own doing.

Do yourself a favour and change now.

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
I am not going to pretend to hold left-wing views, which it looks like I'm being pressured into.

NO, you thickhead, you're being pressured to quit acting like a dickhead.

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Patdys
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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
quote:
Originally posted by deano:
They are dead because of you and people who hold the same opinions as you.

Plank this prat.
Please.

Can you not see how gut wrenchingly offensive your comment is? This goes beyond trolling. This goes beyond decency.

Please consider apologising. And then please shutup just for a bit.

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Marvin the Martian

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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Can you not see how gut wrenchingly offensive your comment is?

I don't know about deano, but I certainly don't see the problem with that particular post. Seems to me he's bang on the money with that one.

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Patdys
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Irrespective of how you feel about another poster's views, to say they are directly responsible for a mass shooting does not sit comfortably with me.

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Seconded. I have no sympathy with the right to gun ownership, as one would expect given my demographic, but I recognise that people who hold other views may do so with good faith, and without direct responsibility for mass shootings.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Irrespective of how you feel about another poster's views, to say they are directly responsible for a mass shooting does not sit comfortably with me.

It may not have been a wise thing to say, but very few things are out of order here, and this is not a place of comfort.

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I truly do not understand the point of your post. And I do not understand why you have added Hellhost to it. But it did make me smile. You must have red hair. [Razz]

(It's not a Styx complaint- it's a request for clarification)

Surely, I can voice my opinion also?

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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
I truly do not understand the point of your post. And I do not understand why you have added Hellhost to it. But it did make me smile. You must have red hair. [Razz]

(It's not a Styx complaint- it's a request for clarification)

Surely, I can voice my opinion also?

I took the view that deano's post was not beyond the bounds of Hell, but also that it could be expected to generate reaction. Hell is not a comfortable place; it is a bed of nails rather than a sofa.

Your opinion was and is welcome, but that doesn't mean that anyone will take the action you desire (a little like when the boss says "I hear what you say").

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Thanks Sioni; my call for planking was more hyperbole ( and alliteration). I did not expect it to be taken seriously. My posts do scan differently in that context.

And Deano, my request to cease just for a bit was serious. And that includes vitriol by pm. Do not contact me privately again in any form.

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I'm not sure if it will help with board directed e-mails, but for PMs "ignore list" is your friend.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
"PMS of support"

[Killing me] I don't know if the apostrophe was intentionally neglected or not, but it's certainly applicable to deano either way! [Killing me]

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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:

And Deano, my request to cease just for a bit was serious. And that includes vitriol by pm. Do not contact me privately again in any form.

What Lyda said. Just block him. Works a charm for the idiots in my life. Online, at least ...

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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Thanks Sioni; my call for planking was more hyperbole ( and alliteration). I did not expect it to be taken seriously. My posts do scan differently in that context.

And Deano, my request to cease just for a bit was serious. And that includes vitriol by pm. Do not contact me privately again in any form.

PMs are also governed by the 10 commandments - and they are not hell - if you are concerned about the content of pms sent to you by any shipmate, you can contact an admin.

[ 16. December 2012, 10:15: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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Thank you but no. I deleted it. It was in response to a comment I made on a Hell thread. I have now both removed the opportunity and made my views known. I am done.

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Heavens to Betsy, you mean to say he behaves like an arse in private as well as in public?

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Yep, it looks like it, and I can confirm that, as Doublethink stated, PMs are governed by the 10c's.

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quote:
Originally posted by irish_lord99:
quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
"PMS of support"

[Killing me] I don't know if the apostrophe was intentionally neglected or not, but it's certainly applicable to deano either way! [Killing me]
TANGENT ALERT

And totally un-apropos of the thread, no apostrophe was omitted, intentionally or otherwise, by Rosa Winkel because no apostrophe was called for. Apostrophes denote possession and contraction, not plurality. "PMS" is, I grant, possibly confusing, but Doublethink's later "PMs" fills the need exactly.

/TANGENT/

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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
Deano is a ignorant racist lying hate-filled self-deluded 19th-hole-swilling class-envious pig with a chip on his shoulder the size of his arse, and probably too stupid to know it. There's enough "I'm not a racist butter" shite flowing from his keyboard to lubricate a giant radish in the appropriate slot.

No more to say really.

Come on Ken, when are you going to speak your mind?

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Deano, you continue to shine. Your views on torture are abhorrent to my very core.

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Deano on torture.

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Originally posted by deano:
I don’t think there will be too many raised eyebrows when I say that it’s fine by me as long as it does the job it’s intended to do.

I prefer that innocent people be protected from Islamic terrorists (let’s be honest, they’re who we are torturing here), rather than allowing the terrorist to kill those innocent people.

Some innocent people will be tortured of course and that is a shame. Lessons must be learnt and those situations avoided, but we are in a war, and in war the innocent are sometime victims.

Of course, torture is a very inefficient way of getting information, as people will tell the torturer what they want to hear to make the pain stop. Much better are things like sleep deprivation, drugs and multiple interrogations to check for discrepancies, but this takes time.

Hypocrisy and double standards slip down the list of what’s important when people’s lives are at stake.

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Originally posted by deano:
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
In any case, the evidence gained as a result of torture is usually inaccurate.

I agree and I said as much in my first post upthread.

I do not care about the responses against my post. It's "us" vs "them", and I am on the side of "us".

The brutal truth is they will hate us whether we torture them or not. They will kill us for simply not being like them. Thus they have to die first, and we have to extract information from them in any way that works. Torture isn't the most effective tool, but it can be quick and useful. It's a hammer, and it has a restricted utility.

That's they way it is.

Deano, how are you different from the terrorist you describe other than you believe your cause is just and the end justifies the means? Oh wait...

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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
I do not care about the responses against my post. It's "us" vs "them", and I am on the side of "us".

Nope, you're not "us", you're a "them", and you're on your own side, all by yourself, in the outer darkness, where you're supposed to be crying and weeping and gnashing your teeth, except your friends pulled all your teeth out, so you're left gnashing your gums.

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deano - NO!
[qb]The brutal truth is they will hate us whether we torture them or not. They will kill us for simply not being like them. Thus they have to die first, and we have to extract information from them in any way that works. Torture isn't the most effective tool, but it can be quick and useful. It's a hammer, and it has a restricted utility. /QB]

Are you trying to justify something you did? You've done military service?
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Hostly Notice

Just for the record, hosts find thread necromancy and crappy coding/editing almost equally annoying.

Patdys - Why now, nearly two months after the last post?

no prophet - the crappy coding in yours leaves the origin of your second quote uncertain, and therefore does nothing for the meaning.

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Sioni, the quotes are from a current purg thread on torture. It's not necromancy when it is contemporaneous.

No prophet- you have just attributed deano's shite to me. Please let make my own stupid quotes all on my own, I don't need ownership of other people's crap.

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