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deano
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by deano: SS, how do you kinow what golf club bars are like? Do you have personal experience? Or is it what I said - prejudice based on some fairy tale you've picked up?
If you had read my post you would have seen that I referred to membership-only golf clubs, not golf or even golfers.
I do have some practical and personal experience of these clubs. It was my misfortune to work for a few weeks in a Norfolk golf club of that kind. Imagine a "UKIP sports club" and you've got a fair idea what it was like.
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On the subject of cricket and golf both being boring, the fundamental difference is that golf is between a player and the course while cricket is between players. But that's too obvious a difference for some to appreciate.
The UK Equality Act has made it illegal for any golf club to exclude people on gender, ethnicity, religious, sexual preference etc.
I understand a specific golf club can make itself exclusively male if the members vote for it, but that means there can be no ladies section etc, which virtually all clubs have. So clubs becoming all-male will lose revenue as they have to get rid of the lady members and their membership fee’s.
I believe that the large majority of membership clubs are now mixed sex. The number of all-male clubs is dwindling. They will all be mixed at some point.
In terms of bar attitudes, you get arseholes holding forth on their prejudices in any bar in the country! I reckon that even in Labour clubs, somebody will get onto a hobby horse after a few pints! That isn’t news, it’s just booze!
(I like cricket as well, but 5-day test is my preferred format. I think the world cup should be 20/20 for the group stages, ODI for the knockout stages and a 5-day test match for the final. Then the best team in the world really will have won) [ 28. February 2013, 11:51: Message edited by: deano ]
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Anselmina
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This ad maybe highlights one of golf's premier PR problems! (I love the man's little face-pull at the end!)
Deano, well done to you and your son for finding an activity he can really get into, develop skills, away from computers, the indoors and the less attractive things youngsters can get into. I hope he does well and goes far!
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Pyx_e
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and in one of those odd coincidences the name of the actor who plays “John” is Deano.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by deano: I think the world cup should be 20/20 for the group stages, ODI for the knockout stages and a 5-day test match for the final. Then the best team in the world really will have won
I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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jbohn
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quote: Originally posted by Marvin the Martian: quote: Originally posted by deano: I think the world cup should be 20/20 for the group stages, ODI for the knockout stages and a 5-day test match for the final. Then the best team in the world really will have won
I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: quote: I suspect I also like watching golf because the strategy is eerily similar to one of my own sports, orienteering.
Getting lost in the rough?
Effectively that's part of it, yes, as in both sports require consideration of the best route to the goal.
You know, in another context the sexual content of those posts might appear objectionable.
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orfeo
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That's twice in 5 minutes I've read someone claiming that my posts have sexual content, the other one being a reference to 'the Australian position' in Dead Horses. What is with you sick fucks around here?
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Kelly Alves
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Spring fever.
And I'm not above it all, my Hitachi Wand is currently set on "Turbo."
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Kelly Alves
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See, that's what I get for trying to find common ground.
Tell me you don't have a Hitachi Wand, George. Something sure seems to be jammed somewhere.
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Huia
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: That's twice in 5 minutes I've read someone claiming that my posts have sexual content, the other one being a reference to 'the Australian position' in Dead Horses. What is with you sick fucks around here?
Is it that the Northern hemisphere is only a month or so from spring?
Huia
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Kelly Alves
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I'm sayin!
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comet
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I think my sistah in spirit needs to get laid.
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Kelly Alves
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Fine. Maybe I do. Sue me.
Anyway according to Orfeo, I;m not the only one,
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Gee D
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Good to see you bouncing back to good spirits Huia .
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Kelly Alves
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Ohdeargod.
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goperryrevs
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No-one's linked to this yet, so I kind of feel like it's my duty to:
scene from Falling Down
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deano
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quote: Originally posted by George Spigot: See what you've started deano?
"Heck" thread my arse!
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Bob Two-Owls
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About three years ago, while I was still on the corporate treadmill, I was "encouraged" (as in you won't be considered for promotion unless) to put myself forward for membership of the local golf club. To join this club as a member you had to be proposed and seconded by existing members and yet the club was struggling for people. I asked why they didn't throw membership open to the general public and was told "we tried that once, somebody objected to us using <the n-word> when talking about Obama so that was the end of that". I withdrew my application and by mere coincidence got made redundant the same year. I now play at municipal courses or pay and plays where I don't need a handicap certificate.
Which brings me to the handicap certificate. To play on most non-municipal courses you need a signed handicap certificate from another golf club. It is a closed shop, you are either in the system and can play virtually anywhere or you are persona non grata and have to play at municipals. Club golfing and municipal golfing are two entirely different spheres separated by class and cash.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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I finally broke and Googled "Hitachi Wand".
Anyway, yes, to sum up what we've learned: some golfers are horrible elitist snobs who thoroughly deserve Michael Douglas pulling a shotgun on them. As a result, the game of golf itself gets tarred with negative associations that aren't justified, causing innocent municipal golfers in some parts of the world to suffer.
Also, the Ship is a haven for Northern Hemisphere perverts with dirty minds, but this is something we confirmed rather than learned.
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George Spigot
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: I finally broke and Googled "Hitachi Wand".
@Kelly Our work here is done?
quote: Also, the Ship is a haven for Northern Hemisphere perverts with dirty minds, but this is something we confirmed rather than learned.
My dirty mind is a constant source of solace.
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Pulsator Organorum Ineptus
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I still find it difficult to understand how in this day and age golf clubs can have both men and women as members, but the women aren't allowed on the course for part of each week. But that's how it seems to be in all the clubs around here.
I'm not interested in golf - I just looked on their websites in order to be appalled. And I was!
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Bob Two-Owls
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It's a safety thing...women are terrible drivers <ducks>
[ 01. March 2013, 14:53: Message edited by: Bob Two-Owls ]
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by deano: "Heck" thread my arse!
Just to clarify, is this part of sex tangent? [ 01. March 2013, 15:54: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
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George Spigot
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quote: Originally posted by Bob Two-Owls: It's a safety thing...women are terrible drivers <ducks>
I think you'll find men are worse at putting because they will insist five inches are actualy nine.
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Firenze
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Which is odd really, as golf has to be he least sexy sport on the planet. Oh, OK, bowls. And curling.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Which is odd really, as golf has to be he least sexy sport on the planet. Oh, OK, bowls. And curling.
I was going to add that darts is less sexy than all three but as ane fule kno, darts is not a sport.
(OTOH, chess isn't a sport either, but a game of chess can be immensely erotic.)
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Sober Preacher's Kid
Presbymethegationalist
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Which is odd really, as golf has to be he least sexy sport on the planet. Oh, OK, bowls. And curling.
The Canadian Ladies Rink has a few hotties.
I'd like them to hurry hard with *my* rocks.
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Anglican't
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Which is odd really, as golf has to be he least sexy sport on the planet. Oh, OK, bowls. And curling.
I was going to add that darts is less sexy than all three but as ane fule kno, darts is not a sport.
(OTOH, chess isn't a sport either, but a game of chess can be immensely erotic.)
Isn't there a school of thought that says the only sports are hunting, shooting and fishing and that the rest are just 'games'?
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Porridge
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: (OTOH, chess isn't a sport either, but a game of chess can be immensely erotic.)
T. S. Eliot certainly thought so. "The chair she sat in, like a burnished throne . . ."
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by no prophet: (no questionable images in link)
How very disappointing.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Anglican't: quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Which is odd really, as golf has to be he least sexy sport on the planet. Oh, OK, bowls. And curling.
I was going to add that darts is less sexy than all three but as ane fule kno, darts is not a sport.
(OTOH, chess isn't a sport either, but a game of chess can be immensely erotic.)
Isn't there a school of thought that says the only sports are hunting, shooting and fishing and that the rest are just 'games'?
Yes, there is and within that only fly fishing is a sport! Everything else is "games and pastimes".
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deano
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Ig golf isn't sexy, how come Rory Mcilroy is having it away with that sexy looking tennis player.
And how much crumpet did Tiger Woods get!!!
Golf babes know how to handle a wood!
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by deano: Ig golf isn't sexy, how come Rory Mcilroy is having it away with that sexy looking tennis player.
"Miss Wozniacki, what first attracted you to millionaire golfer Rory McIlroy?"
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deano
princess
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Getting plenty AND rich! Sweet.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by deano: Ig golf isn't sexy, how come Rory Mcilroy is having it away with that sexy looking tennis player.
And how much crumpet did Tiger Woods get!!!
Golf babes know how to handle a wood!
Have you seen Rory's recent form? On the course that is. Opinions vary as to whether his new clubs or GF affect him most.
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Marvin the Martian
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Che may have been a good general, but from the look of that photo he couldn't putt for shit.
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ExclamationMark
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quote: Originally posted by no prophet: Absolute gnarf chewing nonsense about curling and sexiness.
Curlers Bare All For Calender (no questionable images in link)
Curling gets sexy (no questionable images in link)
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/winter-olympics/curling-gets-sexy-20100221-on8a.html : quote: Canada's John Morris, 31, was recently named as one of the country's most eligible bachelors by "Entertainment Tonight Canada" while US player Chris Plys, 22, was Entertainment Weekly's Olympic stud of the day.
And if you are really into it, you can find the reposts of past curling calenders, where curlers around world have bared it all for charity.
Curling? Bowls on ice, that says it all. A waste of a good brush.
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Fr Weber
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quote: Originally posted by Zach82: quote: Why on Earth is the game of golf hated?
Because it's fucking boring?
As Furio Giunta once said : "Stupid-a fucking game."
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deano
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I think any bigotry found amongst golfers is not because they are golfer, but because they are bigots.
I would hazard a guess that in a bar or pub following the playing of any sport, whether football, cricket, basketball or baseball, you will find your fair share or bigotted arseholes in roughly the same proportions as in golf club bars.
This is about money. Golf is seen as a rich man's game - it isn't - and so a certain part of society hates golf and golfers because they percieve them as wealthy, and that certain part of society hates wealthy people.
That's all it boils down to, class and income envy amongst lefties.
Get over it!
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by deano: I think any bigotry found amongst golfers is not because they are golfer, but because they are bigots.
I would hazard a guess that in a bar or pub following the playing of any sport, whether football, cricket, basketball or baseball, you will find your fair share or bigotted arseholes in roughly the same proportions as in golf club bars.
This is about money. Golf is seen as a rich man's game - it isn't - and so a certain part of society hates golf and golfers because they percieve them as wealthy, and that certain part of society hates wealthy people.
That's all it boils down to, class and income envy amongst lefties.
Get over it!
Golf is a rich person's sport. This does not mean middle class cannot play, but they are not on an equal footing.
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deano
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My clubs cost £100 from Sports Direct. How much does decent fishing tackle cost?
Membership fee's? How much is a season ticket to Chelsea?
It isn't a rich man's sport unless you are a fifties throwback!
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by deano: My clubs cost £100 from Sports Direct. How much does decent fishing tackle cost?
Membership fee's? How much is a season ticket to Chelsea?
It isn't a rich man's sport unless you are a fifties throwback!
deano, I've already pointed out that municipal courses and membership-only clubs are totally different entities. Others have done this too and you persist in ignoring this!
It isn't a rich man's sport, but it's very much "the right kind of chap's" sport, and if you aren't of that type, you won't even get to find out what the membership fee is.
Unless you've been banned from their ground anyone, from any class and of any gender, race or religion, can buy a season ticket for a Premiership football club (although I believe a few have waiting lists).
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Not to mention that Deano lives in a town that even I, a non-golfer, knows has a notoriously good municipal golf course where anyone can play. I just cycle through it.
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