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cliffdweller
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quote: Originally posted by Boogie: A different story entirely when they are in their 90s - it isn't going to just really hurt. It will cause terrible pain and suffering.
I am very thankful that all the residents at my Mum's home who have died in the past 3 years have died peacefully in their beds, most with family round them. (It is a home for the very elderly) It is policy there not to call the emergency services.
Presumably not w/o a DNR. Even at 90-- or 100, or 110-- it has to be their choice. It has to. And people are ready to make that choice when they're ready to make that choice. My mom lived with a great deal of pain and suffering for 2 years before she was able to decide to go into hospice. It needed to be her choice-- not mine, not the doctor's, not the nursing home's.
Since you say "mum" rather than "mom" I'm assuming you're not in the US. Given my recent first-hand knowledge of the laws/system in the same state this occurred (see above) I'm fairly certain this was not at all about a "merciful death" or concern for the patient's pain, but most likely (see above) a desire to move the death off-site to avoid negatively impacting their mortality stats.
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SusanDoris
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PineMarten - Thank you for your good wishes.
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Tortuf
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In an unhappy coincidence, my deeply demented 82 year old mother in a nursing home for rehab just quit breathing and 911 was called. I am at a loss as to why. Mom has a no code.
She has a no code because she understands that death comes to all, but death with some dignity only comes to the prepared.
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Deputy Verger
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I'm not a nurse. But I was once at the deathbed of a frail old woman who I knew was ready to die. She was in a care-home, a good one. It was shift-change time. Her breathing was laboured. The shift of carers going off all stuck their heads in to say good night, good-bye, whatever. The shift of carers coming on all stuck their heads in to say hello, how is she, etc. I waved them all away. She breathed her last. I opened a window (superstitious, maybe, but it couldn't hurt). I waited, holding her hand, quite a while before calling in anyone to corroborate my feeling that she was gone beyond our sight and hearing, beyond anyone attempting to bring her back. Then I left them to it and went and called her daughter, my friend. Not one person (staff or relative) said I should have called for intervention. I know I did the right thing. This nurse did the right thing. End of.
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cliffdweller
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quote: Originally posted by Deputy Verger: I'm not a nurse. But I was once at the deathbed of a frail old woman who I knew was ready to die. She was in a care-home, a good one. It was shift-change time. Her breathing was laboured. The shift of carers going off all stuck their heads in to say good night, good-bye, whatever. The shift of carers coming on all stuck their heads in to say hello, how is she, etc. I waved them all away. She breathed her last. I opened a window (superstitious, maybe, but it couldn't hurt). I waited, holding her hand, quite a while before calling in anyone to corroborate my feeling that she was gone beyond our sight and hearing, beyond anyone attempting to bring her back. Then I left them to it and went and called her daughter, my friend. Not one person (staff or relative) said I should have called for intervention. I know I did the right thing. This nurse did the right thing. End of.
The circumstances are not exactly comparable, if you've been following the thread. But I am grateful you were able to attend for and care for your friend. [ 17. April 2013, 05:16: Message edited by: cliffdweller ]
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