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Evensong
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Maybe Christianity is basically about God.

Becoming a good person can be one side effect (a potentially pukeworthy one, if one confuses it with false piety).


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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
"You're all ratbags, but you're forgiven anyway, so go and act in the same generous way to everyone else.

PS - I'll be back to check you're not using this as an excuse to be a complete bastard."

A lovely definition of Grace.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crœsos:
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Originally posted by Hawk:
It is not about us, it is about God.

I guess we can shutter all the churches and everyone can just sleep in on Sundays then?
Isn't that about doing what you want - thus being all about you rather than God. The opposite of Christianity therefore.

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South Coast Kevin
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawk:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
quote:
Originally posted by Hawk:
It is not about us, it is about God.

I guess we can shutter all the churches and everyone can just sleep in on Sundays then?
Isn't that about doing what you want - thus being all about you rather than God. The opposite of Christianity therefore.
There's not a problem in saying Christianity is, in part, about us, is there? As for 'doing what you want', I'd say being a Christian (I know that wasn't the exact question in the OP) is submitting to God and being transformed by him so that what we want becomes the same as what he wants. The closer we approach this state, the better it is for us to 'do what we want'!

[ 12. June 2013, 09:54: Message edited by: South Coast Kevin ]

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Originally quoted by cliffdweller:

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Originally posted by Hairy Biker:
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Originally posted by MrsBeaky:
Christianity is basically about being a follower of Jesus Christ and this is evidenced by a life which is characterised by the things which he taught and modeled.
Sounds like a description of being a "good person" to me. Could you be so described if you didn't follow Jesus Christ "through whom all things were made"?

Yes, you can be a good person w/o being a follower of Jesus-- which is why Mrs.Beaky's answer is not synonymous with "being a good person". Similarly, you could suck at "being good" for various reasons and still be a "follower of Jesus" who is attempting to live a life "characterized by the things he modeled". It's about intent more than outcome.

Thank you, that is nearer the heart of what I was trying to say...I so wish now I hadn't tried to obey the OP's request for brevity!

Following Jesus is what it's all about and that includes aspiring to live a life that reflects his teaching and behaviour....and I so often fail.
My former boss (who was an atheist and tried to behave in a highly moral manner) and I often talked about Christianity and he once said to me "Even if you weren't a Christian you'd still be the same person, wouldn't you?" And in some ways he was right: I am by nature a fairly considerate person as was he, I have a strong sense of loyalty as did he but in others ways he was wrong. I thought about choices I'd made down through the years and concluded that I couldn't have made them without the strength I drew from my relationship with God and the transforming power it brings and the grace it supplies when I fail.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Clonk:
Agreed, it is at the same time tough and from a selfish perspective often against our best interests. That being said, I believe it is for our best interests from the perspective of everyone taken as a whole. Do you disagree?

No. I like the way SCK puts it:

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Originally posted by South Coast Kevin:
As for 'doing what you want', I'd say being a Christian (I know that wasn't the exact question in the OP) is submitting to God and being transformed by him so that what we want becomes the same as what he wants. The closer we approach this state, the better it is for us to 'do what we want'!



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It starts with repentance, believing that Christ died for our sins, Receiving the Holy Spirit into our lives, and letting him transform us.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawk:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
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Originally posted by Hawk:
It is not about us, it is about God.

I guess we can shutter all the churches and everyone can just sleep in on Sundays then?
Isn't that about doing what you want - thus being all about you rather than God. The opposite of Christianity therefore.
It's the difference between instrumental and expressive ideas of our relationship with God. We don't worship God in order to somehow not go to hell, we worship God because we are in a relationship of love with God. And sometimes, if you really feel like staying in bed, God would prefer that you do that. It's pretty straightforward.
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Christianity is basically about our relationship with God and with each other. (Mt 22:37-40)

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mousethief: Christianity is basically about our relationship with God and with each other. (Mt 22:37-40)
I would add our relationship with ourselves too.

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Originally posted by LeRoc:
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mousethief: Christianity is basically about our relationship with God and with each other. (Mt 22:37-40)
I would add our relationship with ourselves too.
I would add our relationship with other people too.
The catchy love your neighbour as yourself bit.

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no prophet: I would add our relationship with other people too.
Ehm, I guess that was covered in mousethief's 'and with each other' [Biased]

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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
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no prophet: I would add our relationship with other people too.
Ehm, I guess that was covered in mousethief's 'and with each other' [Biased]
I feel the love.
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