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comet
Snowball in Hell
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This is not a group therapy thread. Shut the fuck up.
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Kelly Alves
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Yes'm, shutting up, the fuckish.
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orfeo
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Kum Ba Ya, My Lord... Kum Ba Ya...
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Golden Key
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A few things:
--Kelly, you're right about the US tripping over "we're better than everyone else in all things". I'm reminded of something CS Lewis said (in the context of religious denominations, IIRC) that a young child may think that the silverware at their house is the real silverware, and no one else's silverware is real.
--I had an awful time with gymnastics, and PE in general. I did get some basic rolls more or less down in 5th or 6th grade; my teacher was VERY patient and encouraging. The uneven bars were really out of the question. I could muddle around on a regulation-sized balance beam. I was awful at climbing things. (Not too bad at trees, though.) We had to climb ropes in PE in grade school. I made it near the top once. The rest was pretty awful. Not sure what was different that one day. I was less embarrassing at foursquare, and a few other things.
--I've had an annoying time with some *very* minor neuro glitches: e.g., lighting matches, whistling, using scissors, and snapping my fingers. I didn't really get the hang of matches and whistling until college. Scissors are still awkward, both in holding them and in trying to cut a straight line. However, I've got some offset scissors (where the handles are bent up), and they work much better for me. Matches are easier if I use wooden ones, and really focus. I think I'd managed snapping my fingers by high school.
I Googled those glitches once, and found other people who had them. Don't know what, if anything, it means.
--My sense of vertical distance is off--part of me exaggerates it so much that a few feet can seem like miles. Made cartwheels impossible, and some kinds of playground equipment extremely difficult. As with some glitches I've developed as an adult, it seems that part of my brain perceive things rightly and part is wayyyy off.
--As far as whether diagnoses and disabilities are "real", check out:
~~ The Invisible Disabilities site.
~~ CFIDS.org. I have Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS/CFS/ME). It tends to be mostly invisible, unless someone is really paying attention. For a long time, sufferers were written off as having "Yuppie flu", being lazy, malingering, etc. by both professionals and laypeople. Many still feel that way. Even doctors and loved ones who believe you have *something* don't really get the extent of it. They may abandon you. You really find out who your friends are, and your good doctors. Random clerks can be rude and mocking when you're looking for a book on CFIDS. Even specialized clinics may be totally thoughtless about accommodating you.
--As far as assumptions about the potential of disabled kids: I read "Cushla and Her Books", written by her grandmother. (Dorothy someone.) C. was a little girl in New Zealand. She was born with multiple disabilities--so many that the professionals just assumed she had a low IQ as well. Her parents were sort of hippies, and not inclined to just believe what they were told. IIRC, she figured out how to read; and, at some point, she was in some sort of free-spirited small group school. (In a barn, I think.) Anyway, she turned out to be very bright. And the professionals were dead wrong.
FWIW.
[link fixed. -comet, Hellhost]
[ 30. April 2013, 11:37: Message edited by: comet ]
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QLib
Bad Example
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IQ is a bit dodgy at the best of times, and particulalry dodgy when it comes to kids with sensory and/or multiple disabilities - not just because the format of the test is questionable, but because the whole concept of intelligence that underpins it is flawed. I've seen a few written off (more or less literally) as idiots (helpful technical term ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ) who have flourished with the right care and stimulation. The most memorable is a deaf/blind boy who was treated as "a cabbage" (his words) until his early teens and then - adopted by someone with common sense and compassion - went on to do A levels and an honours degree.
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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Golden Key, your invisible disabilities link doesn't work.
Moo
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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fixed.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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[reports Comet to admins for being helpful in Hell]
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Might as well ask the bloody cat.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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I like you keep you sad little fuckers guessing.
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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
--As far as whether diagnoses and disabilities are "real", check out:
All diagnoses are real. Not all are accurate. Professionals range from amazing to abysmal, so then too will their diagnoses. The situations in which these evaluations occur vary tremendously, so this will affect the diagnosis.
Disabilities are real, even those not apparent to the casual observer. But a diagnosis is similar to a court verdict; it is an official position, not a perfect proof.
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Indifferently
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quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
As a person who needs antidepressants to function, I am so very grateful for my leftist NHS.
Also, I find it very strange that Indifferently attends what I know to be an FiF church in light of his anti-Catholic prejudice? Just weird. Coventry's full of conservative evangelical Anglican churches.
I attend because they have A and B, and will soon lobby the PCC to petition for alternative episcopal oversight. Why do you say I am "anti Catholic"? I am Catholic. I just happen to think we should stop aping Rome and use our own liturgical and ceremonial inheritance.
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Pomona
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quote:
Originally posted by Indifferently:
quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
As a person who needs antidepressants to function, I am so very grateful for my leftist NHS.
Also, I find it very strange that Indifferently attends what I know to be an FiF church in light of his anti-Catholic prejudice? Just weird. Coventry's full of conservative evangelical Anglican churches.
I attend because they have A and B, and will soon lobby the PCC to petition for alternative episcopal oversight. Why do you say I am "anti Catholic"? I am Catholic. I just happen to think we should stop aping Rome and use our own liturgical and ceremonial inheritance.
You realise that Anglo-Catholicism is very different to actual RCC practice and so is not aping Rome at all? It is continuing the liturgical and ceremonial progression which was already happening in England. Disagree with it, fine, but don't act like it's not 'real Anglicanism'. You don't think that AffCath churches are 'real' churches but they er, kind of are.
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Golden Key
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Thx for fixing my link. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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