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JonahMan
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Originally posted by RooK:
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
Your filtering clause ... makes no difference to my so-called point.
Other than to point out that you had no point, you mean. Your amusing attempt to "play Hell" with me notwithstanding.
I think it is possible, that in spite of your obvious towering genius and my sub-zero IQ that you didn't understand the point I was actually making in the first place. However, if I have amused you, even inadvertently, my life is complete.
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It's reassuring to know that thread titles are an invariable restriction on thread content.
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You do realize that this was a case of MY staying on topic, right? Or were you simply blinded by your fannish enthusiasm to engage me in Hell that you blurted out this idiocy unconsidered?
You overestimate my fannish enthusiasm for engaging with you, I can't remember the last time I bothered. Perhaps it is more important to you than to me?
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Careful of your teasing of QLib; enough chocolate has been exchanged to pay for a couple bannings no-questions-asked.
Are you posting officially as an admin here?
If not, it's sad to see a former great white shark of hell reduced to gumming the inhabitants like the titular rubber star of Jaws.
If you are, then of course I will avoid teasing any of your sycophants - just PM me a list.
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QLib
Bad Example
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
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Originally posted by RooK:
Careful of your teasing of QLib; enough chocolate has been exchanged to pay for a couple bannings no-questions-asked.
Are you posting officially as an admin here?
...If you are, then of course I will avoid teasing any of your sycophants - just PM me a list.
Hey, JM, I'd forgive a lot for the catsup jest, but I really fail to see how a light-hearted comment on RooK's posting style qualifies me as a sycophant. Trouble is, of course, once we start questioning the Great Playground Bully Myth you become an ordinary guy who lost an argument in Hell instead of a Rebel Martyr with some kind of Obscure Cause.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by QLib:
Trouble is, of course, once we start questioning the Great Playground Bully Myth you become an ordinary guy who lost an argument in Hell instead of a Rebel Martyr with some kind of Obscure Cause.
"He died that other might use upper case gratuitously."
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QLib
Bad Example
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It's the grand narrative, doncha know.
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deano
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I tried having sex with an Escort once and burnt my penis on the exhaust pipe.
Sorry. Jet lag 1980's joke.
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RooK
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
I think it is possible ... that you didn't understand the point I was actually making in the first place.
Fascinating theory. Go ahead: expound your so-called point.
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RooK
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Normally I'd expect that a person in your position might have just gotten bored and wandered off (or maybe even just outright cowered with realization). But, in your case, it seems possible that you might actually still be continuing this conversation - just that you're trying to do it telepathically or by gesticulation. Let me admit that I'm not good at charades, and that I'm wearing too much tinfoil, so you should just use the keyboard instead. It's the flat thing with the letters on it.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by George Spigot:
I find it odd that a person can point a gun in someones direction. Fire. The person dies. And it's not murder. I don't think saying that they only intended to shoot a tire and didn't expect any shrapnel should be a defence.
Since when is pointing at a tire the same as pointing in someone's direction? How broad do you want in someone's direction to be? If the jury accepted that he was NOT pointing at the person, I'd say it's not at all difficult to conclude a lack of an intent to kill. If you want to kill someone with a gun, your best strategy is TO AIM AT THEM.
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lilBuddha
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Still a stupid law. Where you think you are aiming, where you are aiming and where the bullet ends up are often three different places. Funny, the areas with the most experience with firearms seem least able to understand ballistics.
That and nearly anyone is worth more than a case of beer. Especially American beer.
[ 18. June 2013, 03:53: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
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orfeo
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Oh well, if requiring some kind of mental state for a murder conviction is stupid, every jurisdiction I know is stupid. Let's just change it to strict liability for killing people. So much easier.
It's been said enough times already but let's say it again anyway: the crime of manslaughter exists precisely to deal with situations where someone's actions are culpable without having the mental state needed for murder. If a prosecutor ignores this possibility in a case that doesn't make the general law foolish, it makes the prosecutor foolish.
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lilBuddha
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I think the prosecutor overstepped in this case. Given the law and the location, I am not certain why he proceeded as he did.
It is the law which states it is permissible "to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft," to which my statement applies. This is barbaric.
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JonahMan
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Originally posted by RooK:
Normally I'd expect that a person in your position might have just gotten bored and wandered off (or maybe even just outright cowered with realization). But, in your case, it seems possible that you might actually still be continuing this conversation - just that you're trying to do it telepathically or by gesticulation. Let me admit that I'm not good at charades, and that I'm wearing too much tinfoil, so you should just use the keyboard instead. It's the flat thing with the letters on it.
Is it by telepathy, charades or smoke signals formed from the flatulent emissions of your arse that anyone is meant to know who this is addressed to?
The flat things round here with letters on are all books. My keyboard is one of the old fashioned bumpy sort, with all sorts of non-flat features. Still, you keep gumming away for the delight of the masses.
Back to the OP, could the defendant be charged with some other crime at this point? Not manslaughter I would imagine (would this be covered under the 'you can't be tried for the same crime twice' concept?) but negligent discharge of a firearm or something?
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Hawk
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by George Spigot:
I find it odd that a person can point a gun in someones direction. Fire. The person dies. And it's not murder. I don't think saying that they only intended to shoot a tire and didn't expect any shrapnel should be a defence.
Since when is pointing at a tire the same as pointing in someone's direction? How broad do you want in someone's direction to be? If the jury accepted that he was NOT pointing at the person, I'd say it's not at all difficult to conclude a lack of an intent to kill. If you want to kill someone with a gun, your best strategy is TO AIM AT THEM.
Depends on how accurate you and your gun are. This guy used an AK-47. In that case the best strategy to kill someone is to spray bullets randomly in that person's general direction. Which is what he did.
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orfeo
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Alas, I was showing my complete lack of practical experience with firearms. Thank God.
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RooK
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
Is it by telepathy, charades or smoke signals formed from the flatulent emissions of your arse that anyone is meant to know who this is addressed to?
Let's go with: "the absolute minimum of functioning comprehension."
Good news! You appear to have worked it out. Eventually.
Still no actual word on your clarified hypothetical "point" though. Alas. Shall we take that as you admitting defeat by gumming, then?
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Back to the OP, could the defendant be charged with some other crime at this point? Not manslaughter I would imagine (would this be covered under the 'you can't be tried for the same crime twice' concept?) but negligent discharge of a firearm or something?
History suggests that this humanoid shitstain could be successfully sued in a civil suit for "damages". But that's about it.
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JonahMan
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Originally posted by RooK:
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
Is it by telepathy, charades or smoke signals formed from the flatulent emissions of your arse that anyone is meant to know who this is addressed to?
Let's go with: "the absolute minimum of functioning comprehension."
Good news! You appear to have worked it out. Eventually.
You were using an absolute minimum of functioning comprehension? Nice to know your self awareness has improved.
I should apologise for keeping you waiting for my reply. It must have been agony for you, with your self-esteem dropping by the minute as you slowly, with your minimum functioning comprehension, come to realise that you are not the centre of everyone's universe, lease of all mine. Sadly I have other things to do, on occasion. I do what I can to boost the fragile egos of desperate and needy souls like yourself, by paying attention when I can.
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Originally posted by RooK:
Still no actual word on your clarified hypothetical "point" though. Alas. Shall we take that as you admitting defeat by gumming, then?
I don't want to be accused by QLib of bullying you again. Obviously, if it tickles your ego to imagine you've won an argument on the internet, you are welcome to make that assumption. I'm actually getting a taste for being gummed though.
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Originally posted by RooK:
History suggests that this humanoid shitstain could be successfully sued in a civil suit for "damages". But that's about it.
Shame. Justice has not been seen to have been done.
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The Great Gumby
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
I don't want to be accused by QLib of bullying you again.
Your reading comprehension. It sucks.
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mousethief
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Can a kindly host rename this thread to "RooK and friends engage in dick-waving contest"?
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lilBuddha
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IIRC, poor Qlib is disadvantaged here. Well, to be fair, that is assuming a bit. But based upon averages....
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Can a kindly host rename this thread to "RooK and friends engage in dick-waving contest"?
I might even close it for the very reasons you wish it renamed.
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Uncle Pete
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Go, go, go, go, GO!! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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comet
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hush, boys! I'm hoping for a brawl!
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mousethief
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Originally posted by comet:
hush, boys! I'm hoping for a brawl!
Hope springs eternal. But I'm willing to bet we'll only get more dick-waving. Seeing as I don't find dicks particularly attractive, and furious waving can cause unfortunate sprinkling effects, I'd just as soon not.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Can a kindly host rename this thread to "RooK and friends engage in dick-waving contest"?
Did we develop a truth in titling policy while I wasn't looking?
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mousethief
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Can a kindly host rename this thread to "RooK and friends engage in dick-waving contest"?
Did we develop a truth in titling policy while I wasn't looking?
If it were a policy I wouldn't have to beg.
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QLib
Bad Example
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
IIRC, poor Qlib is disadvantaged here. Well, to be fair, that is assuming a bit. But based upon averages....
Don't worry about me - I'm sure I can turn my hand to something ...
Now where did I put those new secateurs?
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Martin60
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God, nuts 'n' guns.
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RooK
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So pissing on a thread is better than dick waving?
While whatshisfuck is an uninspiring hybrid of an artful dodger and a lamer, at least they're bothering to produce Hellish content. Your meta-whining is a tiresome waste of bandwidth. Yes, mousethief, I know that my air of aloof superiority annoys you. But can't we just face facts, and all agree that it's just because I am, in fact, better than you?
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Can a kindly host rename this thread to "RooK and friends engage in dick-waving contest"?
Did we develop a truth in titling policy while I wasn't looking?
If it were a policy I wouldn't have to beg.
In Hell you would.
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mousethief
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Originally posted by RooK:
So pissing on a thread is better than dick waving?
While whatshisfuck is an uninspiring hybrid of an artful dodger and a lamer, at least they're bothering to produce Hellish content. Your meta-whining is a tiresome waste of bandwidth. Yes, mousethief, I know that my air of aloof superiority annoys you. But can't we just face facts, and all agree that it's just because I am, in fact, better than you?
Your jealousy is so cute.
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JonahMan
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Originally posted by The Great Gumby:
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
I don't want to be accused by QLib of bullying you again.
Your reading comprehension. It sucks.
Oh the irony.
It was perfectly obvious that it was RooK that was being cast in the role of mythical internet bully (or rather, that it was proposed that I was casting him in the role, with myself as heroic defender or somesuch - not that I would concur with this analysis in any respect, not least because I don't view RooK as a bully).
I was merely subverting this by pretending that I was the alleged bully. If this wasn't obvious to the meanest intelligence - and I refer to anything above yours GG - then I will eat my hat.
Poor reading comprehension? Et tu, Gumby!
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Sioni Sais
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Host's Rusty Agricultural Implement Deployed
Begging over, dick waving over, pissing in the soup that was once a half-worthwhile thread over.
Close the peanut and popcorn booths and ...
THREAD CLOSED
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