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Indifferently
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I was under the impression that 'priestess' and 'bishopess' to describe female priests and bishops was not looked upon kindly on the Ship?
In that case I apologize for using these terms.
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Pomona
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I was under the impression that 'priestess' and 'bishopess' to describe female priests and bishops was not looked upon kindly on the Ship?
In that case I apologize for using these terms.
But not for the sexism? OK then.
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Indifferently
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I was under the impression that 'priestess' and 'bishopess' to describe female priests and bishops was not looked upon kindly on the Ship?
In that case I apologize for using these terms.
But not for the sexism? OK then.
Please show me the biblical basis for this concept you call sexism, and prove that it is not a product of Marxist thought.
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Laurelin
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
Sorry, that's another anachronism the Authorized Version, the only reliable English-language translation of the scriptures, ousted from our churches because it actually renders the Gospel as intended unlike liberal heretical bibles like NRSV and The Message.
Oh dear. Good old KJV-ism. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Tyndale, Luther, the KJV Committee et al worked from the best ancient manuscripts available to them at the time. Scholarship has obviously developed hugely in the last 500 years or so, with ever more access to valuable biblical material. So no, Indifferently, the KJV, magnificent and important as it is, as much as we owe to it, is NOT the most reliable and accurate translation around. Long may it endure, but it's not the translation I use for personal devotion or study. And while I personally favour the NIV, there's nothing 'liberal' about the NRSV. It doesn't whitewash any of the 'difficult' or 'controversial' passages in Scripture. As a formal equivalence translation, it aims, like the ESV, for near-literal accuracy.
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Leftists showing their hand again - all the arguments for priestesses and bishopesses have to be secular because the Catholic argument for it is completely non-existent. This is nothing but a Marxist infiltration job and I for one am not fooled.
This is silly. Quakers had women preachers centuries before Karl Marx was e'er a twinkle in his Daddy's eye.
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
Please show me the biblical basis for this concept you call sexism, and prove that it is not a product of Marxist thought.
Believing that women are equal with men and accepting women's ordination are not synonymous with Marxism. Says Laurelin, who is no fan of Marxism. But who would have been campaigning for universal suffrage, had she been around in 1913. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Pomona
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I was under the impression that 'priestess' and 'bishopess' to describe female priests and bishops was not looked upon kindly on the Ship?
In that case I apologize for using these terms.
But not for the sexism? OK then.
Please show me the biblical basis for this concept you call sexism, and prove that it is not a product of Marxist thought.
Genesis 1:27 and Galatians 3:28. Those are in the AV, right? Do you agree with universal suffrage, just wondering?
Also, what was your view on King James I the homosexual and Shakespeare the bisexual's roles in the creation of the AV, again?
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Indifferently
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
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Originally posted by Indifferently:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I was under the impression that 'priestess' and 'bishopess' to describe female priests and bishops was not looked upon kindly on the Ship?
In that case I apologize for using these terms.
But not for the sexism? OK then.
Please show me the biblical basis for this concept you call sexism, and prove that it is not a product of Marxist thought.
Genesis 1:27 and Galatians 3:28. Those are in the AV, right? Do you agree with universal suffrage, just wondering?
Also, what was your view on King James I the homosexual and Shakespeare the bisexual's roles in the creation of the AV, again?
I'll ignore your revisionist attempt at the homosexualization of history (though I'm sure you believe it).
as for universal suffrage, I don't have much faith in democracy at all really. All it seems to have produced is huge government and socialism.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Indeed. Look how much better it is in those countries that don't have democracy...
I'm not one for quoting Churchill, but he was bang on the money on the subject of democracy.
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Pomona
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Well Indifferently, I was really asking if you think not letting women vote is sexism, or just right and proper?
As for the homosexualization (that's not a word) of history, I don't really have to do it when it was recorded at the time. Hadrian, Edward II, Shakespeare etc did the work for me.
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ken
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What do these people think Marxism actually is? Have any of them read anything by Marx? Or even anythign about Marx?
I'm not any kind of Marxist but I don;t go spouting all this bullshit abotu hoiw tghis-that-or-the-other is "Marxist" when it isn't. It would be breaking the 9th commandment, for one thing.
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lilBuddha
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Thou shalt not be an idiot, is the ninth commandment?
If so, Indifferently is doomed to Hades with each post. God will need to reinvent eternity to deal with each offense.
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Zach82
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How dare I uphold the teaching and doctrine of the Ancient Catholic Church according to the Reformed and Protestant Church of England. The BCP and Articles are not inspired of themselves but derive their infallible authority from the Scriptures and the Fathers interpreting the same.
Being bullied is par for the course if you are an orthodox Christian believer in the C of E today.
But let's not be too scruputous. Our faith is all about bringing people to salvation through Jesus: "If any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous, and he is the propitiation for our sins."
But this is a very mean spirited thread.
I've stood up for orthodox belief and Anglicanism on these boards many times, Indifferently, and I think you are a hateful, narrow-minded idiot and a bigot.
Judge not and ye shall not be judged.
Sorry, that's another anachronism the Authorized Version, the only reliable English-language translation of the scriptures, ousted from our churches because it actually renders the Gospel as intended unlike liberal heretical bibles like NRSV and The Message.
But I fail to see how it is I that is the bigot when I have thus far refrained from hateful personal attacks like your post above.
I've also been called into account on these boards for using the good Saint Jim version of the Holy Scriptures too. So it gives me a certain cache when I ask you to shove your KJO psedo-Anglicanism right up your ass where it came from.
I only cited examples of you being a bigot twit, you bigoted twit.
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Uncle Pete
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Is a certain cache a certain type of hiding place?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Is a certain cache a certain type of hiding place?
It's where old pixels go before they fade away.
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Pomona
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Also, for clarity - Marxism and Marxist-Feminism are not the same thing. Not all Marxists are feminists, not all feminists are Marxists (although the number of Marxist feminists probably outnumbers the number of feminist Marxists).
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Zach82:
I've also been called into account on these boards for using the good Saint Jim version of the Holy Scriptures too.
Wasn't it good KING Jim?
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South Coast Kevin
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Is a certain cache a certain type of hiding place?
It's where old pixels go before they fade away.
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) One for the quotes file, methinks.
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Pomona
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Zach82:
I've also been called into account on these boards for using the good Saint Jim version of the Holy Scriptures too.
Wasn't it good KING Jim?
I very much hope that someone, somewhere has called it the Queen James Version by accident.
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Pomona
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Originally posted by Gwai:
Well, it's certainly been done on purpose!
*updates Christmas list accordingly*
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Uncle Pete
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Well, it's certainly been done on purpose!
Listens to the sound of devotees' heads exploding
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comet
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CRACKS HOSTLY WHIP
Seeing as the subject of this Hellcall will be unable to attend the rest of the party, I'm shuttin' 'er down. He's said all sorts of other stupid shit in other places in Hell, however - so feel free to continue the discussion elsewhere. just remember he's currently unable to respond. i.e. don't be too much of a dick.
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