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Originally posted by Antiphon:
In view of its contents, I could see myself obtaining a set of the new African edition of the LOH after the New Year. I think I would obtain it in preference to the forthcoming Latin/English edition of the 1961 Breviary by Baronius Press, as I would probably find the African LOH of greater use; I already have the Anglican Breviary and the all-Latin edition of the 1961 breviary published by Nova et Vetera last year.

I will enquire at my nearest branch of St Paul Multimedia to see whether they could obtain it for me. Possibly it may eventually be available for purchase online from one supplier or another.

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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
I have not seen Fr Hartzell's book but I get a sense that it draws its extras from the Sarum antiphoner. It seems, from current material in St Bede's, the same source is used here. The core of this office, however, is based on the 79 Prayer book. Hartzell meets Galley.

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The texts are singable too. They are the same translation used and published by the Wantage sisters.

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Originally posted by Martin L:
*bump*

Is the martyrology read daily by religious orders of today?

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Could it be this ?

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Originally posted by chiltern_hundred:
"The Anglican Catholic Church of Canada has a magnificent new Liturgy of the Hours which contains the Prayer Book Office together with the Lesser Hours and some other material. Of readily manageable dimensions, it includes the readings, antiphons and all the office hymns (from the ACC "Ancient Office Hymn Book"). There are two volumes, the first of which -- Advent to Quinquagesima -- is now available, with the second volume to follow. It is very "user-friendly" and well laid out. In addition, there is a single-volume abridged edition available."

Does anyone have any further information about this?

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Originally posted by Eddy:
I'd like to try a simple daily office which also used some readings and poetry and wasnt too long and had pauses in it. Varied but not complicated.

Ideas, guys?

HAPPY NEW YEAR , guys.

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I'd like to try a simple daily office which also used some readings and poetry and wasnt too long and had pauses in it. Varied but not complicated.

Ideas, guys?

HAPPY NEW YEAR , guys.

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The poetry bit will probably thwart us while searching. For now, check out Phyllis Tickle's
The Divine Hours, a series of several seasonal books. They follow a familiar office ordo, but are made to be prayed in a short burst of time. The pauses would be up to you. It's something to check out for now, anyway.

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Originally posted by Martin L:
All right, Oblatus, I didn't miss your mention of Holy Name and its daily office. I'm curious...what did you think (and did you find the breviaries?!)

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Sorry...my mention of praying an Office at Holy Name meant I went to a pew and prayed it on my own (with my BCP/NRSV office book). I haven't visited for Holy Name's daily Office yet, but thanks for the reminder!

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I'd like to try a simple daily office which also used some readings and poetry and wasnt too long and had pauses in it. Varied but not complicated.

HAPPY NEW YEAR , guys.

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Originally posted by Eddy:
I've been looking at the Tickle books and not quite getting it.

Do they come as a series or is the Advent thru Epiphany different from Wintertime / Springtime.

I mean which volumes make up a set?

I see there is a childrens version too - anyone know if that works?

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Originally posted by Think²:
December & January happen in winter don't they ?

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
Sorry...my mention of praying an Office at Holy Name meant I went to a pew and prayed it on my own (with my BCP/NRSV office book). I haven't visited for Holy Name's daily Office yet, but thanks for the reminder!

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Originally posted by chiltern_hundred:
"The Anglican Catholic Church of Canada has a magnificent new Liturgy of the Hours which contains the Prayer Book Office together with the Lesser Hours and some other material. Of readily manageable dimensions, it includes the readings, antiphons and all the office hymns (from the ACC "Ancient Office Hymn Book"). There are two volumes, the first of which -- Advent to Quinquagesima -- is now available, with the second volume to follow. It is very "user-friendly" and well laid out. In addition, there is a single-volume abridged edition available."

Does anyone have any further information about this?

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I've purchased a hardcover copy of the book from the link above and have been using it for a few days. It's very well done and can be used with a Bible for an enriched eightfold office based on the 1959/62 Canadian BCP, but compatible with the USA 1928 BCP and possibly the 1662 BCP. Its aim is similar to that of The English Office, but I think this new An Anglican Catholic Liturgy of the Hours: Abridged Edition does it more successfully. Good typography and layout; very sturdy binding. A few typos, but those few I've seen so far are very minor.

I should add that I don't represent the editor or publisher of the book in any way; just bought the book and thought I'd tell you it's good.

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Interesting. What does it use for Matins readings?

For a noted alternative (with Coverdale psalms and KJV chapters etc.) you might have to wait for the English translation of the Sarum breviary currently in hand by Dr William Renwick, in parallel with his Latin edition already being made available here.

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Ah, thanks for explaining that. I was assuming the "Office in the Night" was an equivalent of the Office of Readings/Vigils/Matins (in the older parlance) with some patristic material as well as scriptural readings.

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Originally posted by Pancho:
I don't know if anyone else noticed it but buried in this interview is some possible good news.

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The new closeness between Solesmes and St. Peters will intensify later this year when Solesmes releases an in-print version of the first volume of the Antiphonale for the Liturgy of the Hours, which will then be used in published form for Vespers at the Vatican.

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the Vesperal for Sundays and feats according Lituriga Horarum will be available in Solesmes editions next wek.
For Laud you will have to be patient.
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Daniel Saulnier

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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
Speaking of the Liturgy of the Hours, does anyone know what kind of differences there are between the Antiphonale Monasticum and the Liturgia Horarum?
So far, I've been adapting the antiphons on my own ( Example )And I'm thinking about investing in one or two volumes of the AM.

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Originally posted by Pancho:
p.s. I should note the message said "Sundays and feasts", not weekdays so people will still have to piece the chant for weekday modern Vespers (in Latin) on their own. Still, this is good news and practical for use in a cathedral or parish setting.

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Speaking of the Liturgy of the Hours, does anyone know what kind of differences there are between the Antiphonale Monasticum and the Liturgia Horarum?
So far, I've been adapting the antiphons on my own ( Example )And I'm thinking about investing in one or two volumes of the AM.

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Antiphonale Monasticum uses the one-week Benedictine schema of psalms, although they do have a book which extends it to four (if I remember correctly). I have all three volumes of the AM. .

Which antiphons do you need??

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I'm covered so far for all the offices of the year except for lauds of the first-fifth Sundays of lent and lauds and vespers of Easter Sunday.

The Sarum chant looks extremely interesting, and I've bookmarked it. Unfortunately, Acrobat has decided that he doesn't want to work today so I can't see the Dominican chant.

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Originally posted by Swick:
The Psalter of the 1979 BCP is available from Church Publishing pointed for Plainsong/Gregorian chant, at Plainsong link and pointe for Anglican chant at Plainsong link both are $40.00 which is on the expensive side. I own the Plainsong Psalter, which also provided seaonal antiphons for the pslams; I assume the Anglican chant version doese as well.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
For any who may be interested, there is a project underway for the online publication of scans of the liturgical material of the St Gregory's Press, (primarily the Benedictine hours).

Unfortunately, the scanned files are much larger than they need to be, making downloading and sending the files to others really more arduous than necessary. Yet the material is extremely useful, and is the most user-friendly form of the office that I have seen, due particularly to all of the music actually being there, and I'm grateful for their efforts. All of the music is there, as are the rubrics, and the psalms and canticles are meticulously pointed, making for ease of chanting. Aside from anything else, they use the Holy Transfiguration translation, which is my personal favourite. Perhaps putting the different volumes into some sort of presenation folder for home use would be the best way of going about it.

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
This is wonderful, Michael. Thank you for letting us know. I have a hard copy of the ferial book for the Office throughout the week, and just going through a day's worth of the Office is highly educational...all the detailed rubrics about how things are done line up with much traditional Benedictine practice.

I see what you mean about the file sizes. Everything appears to be scanned; I wonder whether anyone has the original electronic files available to make PDFs from them, which I think would produce smaller files. I could be wrong.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
That would make it much better, wouldn't it? All they need is a PDF virtual printer and it should be much less time-consuming for them in addition to producing smaller files. I'll try to contact them and see what can be done. I think I'd go slowly mad if I had to scan all of those pages.

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
Converting the native (Word?) files to PDF would also produce very sharp, straight pages, of course.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
Yes. Although it was apparently created with something called Multi-lingual Scholar. I'm in occasional contact with one of theirn deacons who is quite prolific on the internet. He's also quite tech savvy so I'll make my suggestions to him and see where, if anywhere, we go.

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