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Of the lot I seem to like 1662 BCP with the 1922 or 1961 Table of Lessons best so far.
Excellency, can you give a brief comparison of the two lectionaries? Fr. Hunwicke suggests that the 1961 is a sound and not terribly pruned version of the 1922, after 40 years of road testing. What are your thoughts?
Yes, Fr. Hunwicke's description is accurate. There was general feeling by the mid-1950 that the 1922 Table of Lessons could be improved upon, and so they set to work revising it. It came in at/about the same time as the Series One Communion Office and thus represents the first, and IMHO best stage of the C of E's attempts at Liturgical revision.
Unfortunately I do not have a copy of the 1961 Table handy, so I cannot do the detailed comparison which you request. IIRC, most of the differences between lections are a verse here and a verse there, plus some rearrangement of the order in which the NT is read.
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There is currently a used set of the 2000 edition of the Liturgia Horarum for sale on eBay with a buy-it-now price of $700!!!!
I don't understand why it is selling for such a high price when a brand-new set can be had for less from Pax Books and for much less from Redemptorist Publications; judging from the pictures the set for sale on eBay is the standard edition and not the de-luxe edition with the leather covers.
It seems to be the case that certain office books can sometimes command very high prices second-hand on eBay even when they are available new for less elsewhere; I think this has also happened with the 1998 reprint of The Anglican Breviary.
Can anyone suggest why this may be?
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
It seems to be the case that certain office books can sometimes command very high prices second-hand on eBay even when they are available new for less elsewhere; I think this has also happened with the 1998 reprint of The Anglican Breviary.
Can anyone suggest why this may be?
I think some sellers hope an uninformed buyer will simply be glad to find the book and will bid without researching the price from other sources.
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Let alone getting Ibreviary for your IPhone or Google Android smartphone and having the daily office (in Latin if you wish) for free.
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The Liturgia Horarum is also available online in Latin and French here.
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The Liturgy of the Hours seems somehow better when recited or read in Latin. This is avilable as an iphone App.
It almost entirely fits contemporary CofE useage as there Antiphons etc sit ewasily with the Sunday readings etc.
Again, although published in four volumes it has the advantage of being IN ONE BOOK.
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A question, Shipmates, about the Liturgy of the Hours.
LotH, in its ineffable wisdom, prescribes the psalms and canticle for Sunday Week 1 for solemnities and feasts also. However, after many years of using LotH, I'm finding I look forward to these psalms - and especially the canticle - about as much as I would look forward to my kidneys being gnawed by rats.
Is there a legitimate alternative? Even if I could be rid of the Canticle of Daniel (Benedicite) it would be a great improvement.
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#134 of the GILH suggests you're stuck with them. Could you just be naughty and use the ferial psalter on that day with proper antiphons?
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[ 21. June 2010, 10:14: Message edited by: Thurible ]
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The Silent Acolyte
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Originally posted by Oblatus:
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
It seems to be the case that certain office books can sometimes command very high prices second-hand on eBay even when they are available new for less elsewhere; I think this has also happened with the 1998 reprint of The Anglican Breviary.
Can anyone suggest why this may be?
I think some sellers hope an uninformed buyer will simply be glad to find the book and will bid without researching the price from other sources.
Well, there is that. It is also the case that a book is very generally worth more, as a book, than its reprint.
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Originally posted by Thurible:
#134 of the GILH suggests you're stuck with them. Could you just be naughty and use the ferial psalter on that day with proper antiphons?
Thurible
I suppose I could be creative and retranslate the Canticle of Daniel: quote:
And you, meteorological phenomena, O bless the Lord.
And you, astronomical phenomena, O bless the Lord.
And you, geophysical phenomena, O bless the Lord.
To him be highest glory and praise for ever.
That seems to take care of about two-thirds of it.
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I've certainly seen original editions of The Anglican Breviary published in 1955 for sale on eBay in mint condition which have fetched high prices, including one with a rather nice red leather cover. But at the same time, I think that I have also seen copies of the 1998 reprint for sale which have had high starting prices.
I think that if you have been really keen to get your hands on an out-of-print book for some time, you may be willing to pay a fairly high price for it on eBay or another site whether it is a reprint or an original edition as long as it is in good condition. This would certainly be the case with me!
At the same time, I wouldn't pay an exorbitant price for a used book that was available elsewhere for less brand new.
I do not know if it is sometimes the case that asking prices for original editions come when a brand-new reprint is published; could this have happened with Walsingham Way and Merrily On High by Colin Stephenson?
Office books which I would consider it well worth reprinting include the following:-
The Prayer Book Office by Paul Hartzell; probably the 1963 edition.
The later edition of The Prayer Book Office by Howard Galley, possibly with the addition of office hymns and material from the latest edition of ECUSA's Lesser Feasts and Fasts.
The 1959 edition of The Day Hours of the Church originally published by Mowbray.
And what about a revised edition of The Anglican Breviary in accordance with the rubrics of the 1961 Roman Breviary?
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I meant to say the asking prices of original editions come DOWN when a brand-new reprint is published .
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
A question, Shipmates, about the Liturgy of the Hours.
LotH, in its ineffable wisdom, prescribes the psalms and canticle for Sunday Week 1 for solemnities and feasts also. However, after many years of using LotH, I'm finding I look forward to these psalms - and especially the canticle - about as much as I would look forward to my kidneys being gnawed by rats.
Is there a legitimate alternative? Even if I could be rid of the Canticle of Daniel (Benedicite) it would be a great improvement.
GILH No. 247 says that you are allowed to use psalms from the same day in another week of the psalter. Personally, I'm more fond of week III.
As to the Latin Liturgia Horarum, the astronomical price is the only reason I don't own any of the volumes. I got my four-volume English set for a measly $92 on e-bay. $92 won't buy you even ONE volume of the Latin edition.(Well, I think it might at Paxbook.)
I can't really understand why the Latin edition always has to be so expensive. Till the price goes down, I'll have to stick with Fr.STravinskas' Lauds and Vespers, supplemented with the commons and propers of the saints in little booklets.
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So it does! That's what I get for skim-reading.
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
I meant to say the asking prices of original editions come DOWN when a brand-new reprint is published .
Tumble in some cases, I would say - I noticed this to some extent with both of Colin Stephenson's books, Merrily on High as well as Walsingham Way, and particularly with H.R.T. Brandreth's Episcopi Vagantes and the Anglican Church (the latter sticks in the mind because with some effort I had tracked down a dustjacketed copy for £30, shortly before the Apocryphile Press reprint kilked the market...)
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What scheme do Breviantics( ![[Smile]](smile.gif) ) use to set their ribbons, please? Is there a 'standard' scheme for a LotH newbie to adopt, I wonder?
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Oh, dear. I hope I'm not a breviantic, but the following helps me:
- Use more ribbons. Breviaries never come with enough.
- Set your ribbons either before reading the office, or set them after an office for the next one.
- Use a traveling ribbon that marks where you are in the office itself. When I am using the page, I put that ribbon over the top of the breviary, to get it out of the way. This ribbon is helpful to mark your place for when you need to flip to the proper of the day or the psalter. When you need to flip somewhere else, grab the ribbon, mark the page (leaving it out the side, not the bottom, as you'll return to that page).
- Ribbons you haven't used yet stick out the side. Ribbons you have used already (and don't need again until next office) rest snugly between the pages and stick out the bottom.
- When I'm out of ribbons, I use index cards. Sometimes this happens with commemorations, when I don't want to lose my regular ferial markers.
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Thanks - to say what I meant to say:
Is there a standard colo(u)r scheme to set one's ribbons?
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Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
Thanks - to say what I meant to say:
Is there a standard colo(u)r scheme to set one's ribbons?
My apologies. I don't follow a standard, but I come up with ways to remember (like Red=Readings, Purple=Psalter). Along with you, I'll be curious to see what others do.
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This is what I do:
Red: Temporal. (Proper of time)
White: Sanctoral.(Proper of saints)
Gold/yellow: Psalter
Purple:Commons of the Saints
Blue: Common of the Blessed Virgin.
Black: Office of the Dead.
I also keep a second red ribbon in the Ordinary and a second gold/yellow ribbon to mark Ps.66.(The invitatory)
Also, during advent and lent, I use a different set of ribbons. For those, everything is the same, except the purple ribbon goes in the temporal,and a green ribbon goes in the commons. Sometimes, when I have to make a commemoration of the feria or of an occurring feast, I use a holy card to mark the page.
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Some will be interested to know that Episcopalian deacon Ormonde Platter has adapted most of the first three volumes of the new Antiphonale Monasticum to the English of the Book of Common Prayer.
See his web page.
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Alas, I am ribbon-challenged. When reading the LOTH the dangling ribbons are just too much of a temptation to my cats. They are rather worse for the wear. I've started using prayer cards. Much less a near occasion for feline sin.
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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Some will be interested to know that Episcopalian deacon Ormonde Platter has adapted most of the first three volumes of the new Antiphonale Monasticum to the English of the Book of Common Prayer.
See his web page.
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This is just amazing. I've imagined doing a similar project, but it's done! And very well!
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Originally posted by Oblatus:
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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Some will be interested to know that Episcopalian deacon Ormonde Platter has adapted most of the first three volumes of the new Antiphonale Monasticum to the English of the Book of Common Prayer.
See his web page.
This is just amazing. I've imagined doing a similar project, but it's done! And very well!
Forgive my ignorance--where does one find the office hymns in these files?
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Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
Thanks - to say what I meant to say:
Is there a standard colo(u)r scheme to set one's ribbons?
Mine are all gold, so that's not a fat lot of help. And there's only three, which I use for the Psalter and the OT/Gospel readings, along with a prayer card for the Epistle. For stuff that doesn't really change, or changes infrequently such as the Collect for the day, I use Post-It brand Durable Tabs.
It ain't pretty, but it works for me.
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I don't think there's any standard sort of scheme... My main determinant is that the red one is at the front so fits most easily into the daily readings, the blue one is next so fits into the Invitary... and so on and so forth.
I could do with a couple more though.
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In my Hours of the Divine Office(pre-Vatican II breviary) the ribbons are provided. I use them as follows, keeping to the order in which they are set in:
1. red - Ordinary of the DO (constant part)
2. black - Psalter
3. green - common of saints
4. white - proper of the season
5. gold - proper of saints
Even so I usually end up with a least one or two prayer cards holding places.
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Originally posted by Extol:
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Originally posted by Oblatus:
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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Some will be interested to know that Episcopalian deacon Ormonde Platter has adapted most of the first three volumes of the new Antiphonale Monasticum to the English of the Book of Common Prayer.
See his web page.
This is just amazing. I've imagined doing a similar project, but it's done! And very well!
Forgive my ignorance--where does one find the office hymns in these files?
I think he refers the reader to the LH (Liber Hymnarius) or the AM (Antiphonale Monasticum), both published by Solesmes. So he's expecting the hymns to be sung in Latin. I would think the proper office hymns as given in The English Hymnal would work well, too.
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Originally posted by New Yorker:
Alas, I am ribbon-challenged. When reading the LOTH the dangling ribbons are just too much of a temptation to my cats. They are rather worse for the wear. I've started using prayer cards. Much less a near occasion for feline sin.
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Hah i've had exactly the same problem. When i pick the BCP/Bible combo (which has in addition to the ribbons that came with some movable ribbons from another book) if Pulsar sees those ribbons it's like waving a red flag at a bull. She kind of shredded one.
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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
I can't really understand why the Latin edition always has to be so expensive. Till the price goes down, I'll have to stick with Fr. Stravinskas' Lauds and Vespers, supplemented with the commons and propers of the saints in little booklets.
S. Silas, does Fr. Stravinskas provide Gospel canticle antiphons for all three years?
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Yes, Fr Stravinskas does indeed provide the gospel canticle antiphons for years A, B and C.
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
Yes, Fr Stravinskas does indeed provide the gospel canticle antiphons for years A, B and C.
Thanks Antiphon--may I ask, did you ever use his volume for an extended period, and if so, how much did the missing proper of saints affect your use?
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To be honest, I only ever used Fr Stravinskas' Lauds and Vespers on a fairly limited basis, as I felt that the lack of the propers for saints days did restrict its usefulness, especially after I obtained Les Heures Gregoriennes, which provides all the hours in Latin and French for each day of the year including the feasts of saints, although the psalm antiphons are not the same as those in the Liturgia Horarum.
I often used Lauds and Vespers for EP on Sundays as the second edition does provide Lauds and Vespers for every Sunday in the year, including the seasonal propers for Advent, Christmas, Lent and Easter, and of course the three-year gospel antiphons, but on weekdays I tended to resort to the second-hand four-volume 1973 edition of the Liturgia Horarum which I obtained a number of years ago. I also used this for Compline, which is not included in Fr Stravinskas' book.
I have recently obtained a new set of the 2000 edition of the Liturgia Horarum and have placed my old set in my church library. Therefore, I will probably not use Lauds and Vespers all that much from now on for praying the Office in Latin, although I will still use Fr Stravinskas' translations of the Office Hymns on some occasions when praying the LOH in English, as I do not think much of those provided in the UK, American or African editions.
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There is an increasing range of iPhone apps that might be of use of office-sayers, including one specifically for the Daily Office.
It has Morning and Evening Prayer in 'traditional' language, including Psalm, collect etc, but not other Bible readings (for copyright reasons).
It's probably not the sort of thing that the the 'advanced' posters to this thread are likely to use, but might be of greater interest to 'beginners' at the Daily Office, or anyone who wants to be sure of having a form of the Office to hand, even if they don't have access to their books.
And, in case you hadn't already guessed, I wrote it.
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How interesting - I'm always on the lookout for anyting that will help.
Hope it goes well.
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
Yes, Fr Stravinskas does indeed provide the gospel canticle antiphons for years A, B and C.
Thanks Antiphon--may I ask, did you ever use his volume for an extended period, and if so, how much did the missing proper of saints affect your use?
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If you don't mind me butting in,it is'nt really too noticable until Ordinary Time after Pentecost. During advent,Christmastide,lent, and eastertide,there's so much material that there's little time to get bored, and Ordinary Time after epiphany is a short period. The long, daily ferial offices after Pentecost prompted me to save the material for the commons in a little printable word file to use for the feasts of the saints. (The whole thing is only about 15 pages long.)
If you're lazy, you can always get the sanctoral material from Here.
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Does anyone have experience of using the Glenstal Abbey prayer book (I think it came out in 2001, with an expanded edition a few years back)? Any good?
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I've just noticed that Midwest Theological Forum has just published a new edition of the Liturgy of the Hours in Latin - the Liturgia Horarum
It comes in a basic hardback edition at $450 and a deluxe leather edition at $900 - I think I'd have to win the lottery before I could obtain the latter!!
I notice that this edition comprises six volumes
rather than the four of the Vatican Press edition. I wonder if this new edition has any significant advantages over the Vatican Press edition; for example, is the standard of printing greatly superior, or is there additional material in this addition such as psalm prayers?
If anyone obtains a set of this new edition it would be interesting to read a review of it. the cheaper of the two MLT editions is in hardback, which might make it better wearing than the vinyl-covered Vatican Press economy ediiton.
Check out the Midwest Theological Forum website here.
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
I've just noticed that Midwest Theological Forum has just published a new edition of the Liturgy of the Hours in Latin - the Liturgia Horarum
It comes in a basic hardback edition at $450 and a deluxe leather edition at $900 - I think I'd have to win the lottery before I could obtain the latter!!
I wonder how many of those they expect to sell at these prices. Insane! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Originally posted by Oblatus:
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Originally posted by Antiphon:
I've just noticed that Midwest Theological Forum has just published a new edition of the Liturgy of the Hours in Latin - the Liturgia Horarum
It comes in a basic hardback edition at $450 and a deluxe leather edition at $900 - I think I'd have to win the lottery before I could obtain the latter!!
I wonder how many of those they expect to sell at these prices. Insane!
I'd wager they sell a maximum of five. Seriously, is there Any valid reason why the Latin editions of the hours have to be so expensive?
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I have sent an e-mail to Midwest, sasking for details regarding the six-volume LotH; ie: what additional material there is and such.
I'll pass the answer to all of you when I receieve it.
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As I've said before, I've recently obtained the current four-volume economy Vatican Press edition of the Liturgia Horarum for £35 sterling per volume from Redemptorist Publications, so I can't see myself obtaining even the cheaper of the MTF editions unless it has VERY significant advantages over my current set.
For some time there have been rumours of an alternative cycle of biblical and patristic readings for the Office of Readings, so I don't know if the additional two volumes of the MTF edition contain those. Even if they did, I'd have to be honest and say that that I'd personally find them of comparatively limited use if they were only available in Latin. Even if I pray the psalms of the Office of Readings in Latin, I still use English for the readings themselves.
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It is interesting to note that on Midwest's "ad" for the Liturgia Horarum, they give a page total of about 7200pp in six volumes. The four volume edition from the Vatican has about the same in total.
So we either get more material or larger print. ;-)
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I phoned Midwest today. There is nothing new in their publication of Liturgia Horarum. They just decided to spread it out over 6 volumes.
That is just plain dumb I would think.
It nust be said, the person in sales with whom I spoke did not do a good job.
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In that case I'll just stick with the Vatican Press set I already have for the next few years!!!
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With reference to an earlier posting, I picked up a copy of the expanded edition of the Glenstal Book of Daily Prayer yesterday.
I would say that it would be a useful simple office book to use while travelling; it has a basic order of MP and EP on a two-week cycle, as well as basic daily orders for Terce, Sext, None and Compline. There is also provision for simple seasonal variations and for the observation of saint's days at MP and EP.
It feels rather like a simplified version of Benedictine Daily Prayer. The inclusive-language version of the Grail psalter is used for the psalms, with the NRSV for the short readings.
I got the hardback edition with a red cover, but I think a softback edition is also available.
It is possible that the basic layout of the daily offices is based on the offices used by the Benedictine community at Glenstal Abbey.
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Originally posted by Manipled Mutineer:
Just dropping in briefly to say that one of our US-based members might be interested in picking up this working copy-edition of the 3 volume Collegeville/Liturgical Press breviary at only $38 with 8 hours to go...
It went for only $54! I had considered bidding $50 but am in the middle of dealing with an intrusion on my PayPal account and didn't want to confuse things while the fraud is being investigated. A previous intruder on my account is now a convict and is on probation and community service in California, by the way. If you intrude on my PayPal account, it's best not to leave your home address on one of your fraudulent orders!
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Anyway, on sale at eBay right now is a copy of the elusive American Office Book. Does someone have one? Is it the USA 1928 office with lessons? In any case, $285 is for me a bit too dear.
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I managed to obtain a copy of the American Office Book three or four years ago.
I would say that it is basically MP and EP from the 1928 ECUSA BCP with the readings in full using the RSV, with the addition of orders for Midday Prayer and Compline.
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Brother Martin at St Gregory's Abbey in Michigan, USA, continues his review of books for praying the divine office in the new issue of the Abbey Letter.
Getting a look this time are the various LotH editions commonly used in the USA, the Monastic Diurnal Revised, the People's Companion to the Breviary, and Phyllis Tickle's Divine Hours.
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