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Percy B
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I realise Manchester, UK, does not have the attractions or quantity of nosebleed high churches London has, but BT asked about London.
What would friends here may similarly suggest for weekday worship in what is arguably England's second city.
We may have to go a bit out of city centre for Manchester - but it does have a good bus service, I think!
Let me start with the RC Hidden Gem, which is just that, I think. A gem. Daily mass at lunchtime. Extraordinary Stations of Cross. Here is its homepage.
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S. Benedict's Ardwick used to be good, though eccentric. I went there a lot when i did a month's placement at a hospital chaplaincy. But i think it has closed now.
The cathedral is quite good.
St Chrysostom's is anglo-catholic but NOT Forward in Faith. I know the vicar, Fr. Gomersall. Good pastor with left-leaning politics.
Holy Innocents Fallowfield also good - affacth. One of its servers used to be a shipmate.
Both S. Chrysostom's and Holy Innocents are 'inclusive church'es.
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Another RC and not far from the centre is Roman Catholic Chaplaincy at Holy Name
Then St Annes has Holy Communion twice a week. It is a civic church so at certain times there will be other lunch time services.
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Apparently, St. Benedict, Ardwick, has been converted into the Manchester Climbing Centre. High-Church, indeed......
Percy B, why not have a look at the Manchester Diocesan website? It may well have some basic info re service times and/or links to parish websites. A Church Near You might also help, though coverage is patchy, to say the least (surprising, considering the amount of information an ACNY entry can contain - and it's free of charge).
Bear in mind, too, that churches in an interregnum (Holy Innocents, Fallowfield, AFAIK, is so placed at the moment) may curtail their usual weekday services.
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Originally posted by Percy B:
I realise Manchester, UK, does not have the attractions or quantity of nosebleed high churches London has, but BT asked about London.
What would friends here may similarly suggest for weekday worship in what is arguably England's second city.
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Originally posted by Percy B:
What would friends here may similarly suggest for weekday worship in what is arguably England's second city.
Birmingham city centre is a little bereft of midweek religion, I seem to remember from spending half of my honeymoon there...
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Gosh, you know how to treat a girl, don't you, Thurible? Where did you spend the other half of your honeymoon- Wolverhampton?
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Tottenham. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Wow! Mind you, I suppose if it's a really good honeymoon, it doesn't much matter where you are, does it?... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Exactly! ;-)
Both are very conveniently located for much, er, sightseeing. Though, as I say (to return us to topic), London's a lot easier for churches.
I'm afraid that the one Sunday I was in Manchester, I splept in and missed Mass at St Chad's emporium.
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Percy B
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Apparently, St. Benedict, Ardwick, has been converted into the Manchester Climbing Centre. High-Church, indeed......
Percy B, why not have a look at the Manchester Diocesan website? It may well have some basic info re service times and/or links to parish websites. A Church Near You might also help, though coverage is patchy, to say the least (surprising, considering the amount of information an ACNY entry can contain - and it's free of charge).
Bear in mind, too, that churches in an interregnum (Holy Innocents, Fallowfield, AFAIK, is so placed at the moment) may curtail their usual weekday services.
Ian J.
Thanks Ian J. I was inspired to raise this topic about Manchester in the wake of the very interesting one on London churches, and reading shipmates insights and comments. They add flesh to the bones of websites, if you follow me!
I also was thinking not just of Anglican churches to tell the truth. I have for example appreciated weekday meeting for worship at Friends House, Euston Road. I believe the Gfriends Meeting House, Mount street, Manchester have a lunchtime meeting.
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St Chrysostom's is anglo-catholic but NOT Forward in Faith. I know the vicar, Fr. Gomersall. Good pastor with left-leaning politics.
Holy Innocents Fallowfield also good - affacth. One of its servers used to be a shipmate.
Both S. Chrysostom's and Holy Innocents are 'inclusive church'es.
I can highly recommend both. St Chrysostom's has a very lively multi-racial congregation in the Victoria Park area (at the 'back' of the Machester Royal Infirmary). Holy Innocents is a bit further out, in Fallowfield, but is well served by public transport as it's in 'Studentland'. Both normally have a daily Mass, but Holy Innocents is in an interregnum at the moment and has had to drop the Wednesday morning Mass. Both churches have websites.
(I wouldn't describe Holy Innocents as all-out AffCath, by the way, but there is a flavour of that and yes, both churches are very inclusive.)
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I happened to go to a weekday morning Mass at Holy Innocents a few years ago, and yes, very impressive- sense of somewhere inclusive and (which suits me) a bit intellectual at the same time.
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I happened to go to a weekday morning Mass at Holy Innocents a few years ago, and yes, very impressive- sense of somewhere inclusive and (which suits me) a bit intellectual at the same time.
Yes, I've preached there on a Sunday before. It always puts a little extra zip in your sermon prep when you know there are likely to be several professional theologians in the congregation! But that doesn't mean it's all high-falutin' theology. It's just a good, modern, Anglican-catholic church.
Jengie Jon mentioned Holy Name - a lovely RC church. If anyone has been, but not recently, they might like to know that in the past few months it's been under 'new management'. The Oratorians, who were running it, have now moved to another church, I think just north of the city centre. Holy Name is once again being run by the Jesuits.
And let's not forget the Orthodox. The Orthodox church on Bury New Road is, I believe, the oldest purpose-built Greek Orthodox church in the country. There's an Antiochian Church in Levenshulme, and I'm sure The Scrumpmeister can tells us about Russian Orthodox and others. Manchester also has Coptic and Mar Thoma congregations. (Which brings us back to Holy Innocents - that's where the Mar Thoma congregation worship.)
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Percy B
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Ho ho, Rosa, I don't want to argue about which is second city - for I favour Birmingham!
BUT the thread is about Manchester.
I like Anglo Catholic but not sanitised, som Aff Cath is rather precious and clinical to me. Ok for women priests with me, but Our Lady having a look in, Mass called such...
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Jengie jon
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I am afraid Percy B, that when Cross Street went Unitarian the remaining Trinitarians went to the suburbs (irc Roby originally was one such church). So while there is a Methodist Central Hall, I cannot recall another town centre Free Church.
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Percy B
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It's many years since I worshipped with Unitarians. I believe they have a good pedigree in Manchester...Mrs Gaskell, for example. However they seldom have weekday worship in theirs churches.
As I mentioned the Quakers have a central presence in Mount Street and weekday worship.
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Originally posted by Albertus:
I happened to go to a weekday morning Mass at Holy Innocents a few years ago, and yes, very impressive- sense of somewhere inclusive and (which suits me) a bit intellectual at the same time.
Yes, I've preached there on a Sunday before. It always puts a little extra zip in your sermon prep when you know there are likely to be several professional theologians in the congregation! But that doesn't mean it's all high-falutin' theology. It's just a good, modern, Anglican-catholic church.
I used to be in the choir at Holy I's and often went to the weekday masses: daily quiet affairs in the chapel. Good people. There's a solid tradition there.
I was also the sacristan at St Chrysostom's for a while. The weekday masses were growing and developing during my time there and have since become daily. I am not in a position to give a report of the current atmosphere but I strongly recommend it as a placefor an Anglican to explore.
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Jengie Jon mentioned Holy Name - a lovely RC church. If anyone has been, but not recently, they might like to know that in the past few months it's been under 'new management'. The Oratorians, who were running it, have now moved to another church, I think just north of the city centre. Holy Name is once again being run by the Jesuits.
Really? Have they moved to St Chad's? I talk to a gentleman from that parish on my tram on Sunday mornings, so shall ask him.
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And let's not forget the Orthodox. The Orthodox church on Bury New Road is, I believe, the oldest purpose-built Greek Orthodox church in the country. There's an Antiochian Church in Levenshulme, and I'm sure The Scrumpmeister can tells us about Russian Orthodox and others.
Only last week I was invited to the Church of the Annunciation on Bury New Road by one of the proprietors of a Cypriot family restaurant that I visited with friends. (Incidentally, I can wholeheartedly endorse Papa G's in the Printworks for its top-notch service and excellent food and atmosphere). I have never been so know little about its worship on weekdays or otherwise. As they follow the New Calendar, I suspect that they will be celebrating their patronal feast soon. That might be worth going to.
The parish of the Protecting Veil of the Mother of God shares a priest with a number of other communities but I believe that they are his main congregation. I know Fr Gennady but not his weekday movements.
Fr Gregory is a better person to speak about St Aidan's. There is a Ukrainian parish that worships in that area as well, served by the same priest as their parish down the road from me. Again, I don't know what, if anything, happens on weekdays.
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I was in Manchester last week for the Student Christian Movement conference and went to Saturday evening mass at the RC uni chaplaincy - very pretty chapel, and Fr Tim is lovely. He showed us around Holy Name and it is beautiful. Loved the massive scallop shell holy water stoop
St Augustine's RC church is very close by to Holy Name - we were using the church hall for the female-only accommodation over the conference weekend! Fr David was very hospitable and showed us around the Salford Diocesan Archive upstairs (which I very much recommend). Absolutely fascinating to look around, my favourite was the WWI chaplain's diaries. The church itself reminds me a lot of the new Coventry Cathedral, and while the interior is very modern, I really like it. I loved the cross made from silver vessels destroyed in the Blitz.
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The Scrumpmeister
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Some thoughts on the changes at the Holy Name, including the provision of weekday worship.
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There's also St.Anne's Manchester in the city centre. Choral settings, use of BCP via Common Worship on Sundays. No chasuble but alb and stole
I think they have a midweek service and also an organ recital midweek, and operate a little cafe on Saturdays
I wasn't so fussed on the cathedral when I was there last - I found it a bit boring to be honest - the building that is - although the services seem OK
I think though that if you're looking for midweek services possibly the cathedral would be the best bet.
I've never managed to get to see the Hidden Gem but next time I'm up there must get to see it.
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There's also St.Anne's Manchester in the city centre. Choral settings, use of BCP via Common Worship on Sundays. No chasuble but alb and stole
I think they have a midweek service and also an organ recital midweek, and operate a little cafe on Saturdays
I gather that they're very particular about being St Ann's rather than St Anne's. The surrounding square and passage bear testimony to this, possibly because the local authority was to scared of the regulars to dare do otherwise. :-)
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I wasn't so fussed on the cathedral when I was there last - I found it a bit boring to be honest - the building that is - although the services seem OK
I work a stone's throw from the cathedral and sometimes go in at lunchtime. I recently posted to Google+ about the defiant iconoclasm there. That is, they have an icon of the Saviour on one of the pillars, almost as a concession to the iconodules, but have placed the votive stand directly in front of it, rendering veneration impossible without incurring injury. When I politely pointed out this difficulty to one of the virgers, he told me that I ought not to be bowing down before graven images, and that was the end of that.
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]I gather that they're very particular about being St Ann's rather than St Anne's. The surrounding square and passage bear testimony to this, possibly because the local authority was to scared of the regulars to dare do otherwise. :-)
Tangent: St Anne's Wandsworth, in SW London, is situated in St Ann's Hill. Just to confuse everybody.
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There's also St.Anne's Manchester in the city centre. Choral settings, use of BCP via Common Worship on Sundays. No chasuble but alb and stole
I think they have a midweek service and also an organ recital midweek, and operate a little cafe on Saturdays
I gather that they're very particular about being St Ann's rather than St Anne's. The surrounding square and passage bear testimony to this, possibly because the local authority was to scared of the regulars to dare do otherwise. :-)
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I wasn't so fussed on the cathedral when I was there last - I found it a bit boring to be honest - the building that is - although the services seem OK
I work a stone's throw from the cathedral and sometimes go in at lunchtime. I recently posted to Google+ about the defiant iconoclasm there. That is, they have an icon of the Saviour on one of the pillars, almost as a concession to the iconodules, but have placed the votive stand directly in front of it, rendering veneration impossible without incurring injury. When I politely pointed out this difficulty to one of the virgers, he told me that I ought not to be bowing down before graven images, and that was the end of that.
I heard that the Cathedral was closing for a few months. Apparently services are being held in other churches such as St Ann's and Rochdale church.
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And the Dean's shed.
I'm not sure about Rochdale, though. It seems a little too far to be likely - unless I'm misunderstanding.
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I did some checking on the Cross Street Chapel website. Yes it is "Ann" and it is so because its patroness was Ann and even better she was a Non-conformist by upbringing. This makes Cross Street Chapel the mother church for St Ann's.
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And the Dean's shed.
I'm not sure about Rochdale, though. It seems a little too far to be likely - unless I'm misunderstanding.
The 'Dean's Shed' being the temporary building they're calling the 'Cathedral on the Streets'. (Actually, I prefer 'Dean's Shed'.)
The licensing of Readers in June is going to be held at St Chad's Rochdale. I'm not sure about the ordinations. And other than that, yes, I think it's the Shed and St Ann's.
Is the cathedral having a new heating system put in or something? Have they tried telling the congregation to wear thicker jumpers?
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When I politely pointed out this difficulty to one of the virgers, he told me that I ought not to be bowing down before graven images, and that was the end of that.
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It seems that the Cathedral is having a new geo-thermal heating system installed (i.e. Heat From Hell), which involves lifting most of the flooring....
....I rather like their Cathedral On The Street.....very...er.... humble....
Full marks to them for Going Green, though!
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And the Dean's shed.
I'm not sure about Rochdale, though. It seems a little too far to be likely - unless I'm misunderstanding.
I think that Rochdale is being used just for some big events, because its big and old. It's St Chads.
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