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Enoch
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quote: Originally posted by Percy B: ... I don't know about vineyard I thought it was a movement not a church. I heard of an Anglican Church being a vineyard church but maybe got that wrong. ...
This might be confusing two different groupings with similar names, both charismatic.
I'm under the impression that Vineyard is a group of churches in relationship with one another - what most of us would call a denomination. There is also New Wine which is an interdenominational charismatic grouping with quite a lot of CofE clergy linked to it, which has an annual camping convention on the showground at Shepton Mallet.
I've met people with experience of both (different people) but no personal experience of either. So if I'm wrong, please could someone who knows better correct me.
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leo
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quote: Originally posted by Ethne Alba: Leo if i'm following this right, the church in question is having n evening to pause and ponder the journey that Jesus took to the cross. they will be experiencing the Stations of the Cross, the Lord's Supper and a time of worship and prayer. Which sounds fairly OK to me.
It is a 'teach ion' on the atonement but there is no mention of communion or stations.
Indeed, their website never mentions The Lord's Supper.
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Ethne Alba
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apologies...my fault i thought you were nearer the other Vineyard
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mrs whibley
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quote: Originally posted by birdie: Actually reading the OP again, what really surprises me is that they are having a Maundy Thursday service.
All the independent evo churches I've known have done Good Friday stuff (if not their own, then joining with other churches), but I don't think any of them would have recongised Maundy Thursday if it jumped out at them from behind a door.
A little late to this, but I am tickled at the idea of being ambushed by a holy day. Maundy Thursday wouldn't be too bad - you'd probably only get surprisingly clean feet, but I wouldn't necessarily want to be jumped out at by a Pentecost or an Annunciation.
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Custard
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IIRC, New Wine started as a collaboration between St Andrew's Chorleywood and Vineyard.
I guess now the two biggest groups in New Wine are the "more charismatic than HTB" bits of the C of E and Vineyard. There's a lot of interchange between the two.
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Barnabas62
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It does strike me as odd. My local nonconformist congo marks Holy Week by daily prayer events, a Maundy Thursday service, two services on Good Friday, an out of doors sunrise service on Easter Sunday (even this week with the cold and clocks going forward there were 70 there at 6 this morning), a shared breakfast for the brave early starters and a climactic celebration starting at 10. The place was packed out this morning, with lots of visitors.
While I appreciate the generally much more informal approach to calendars, I would not much like being part of a congregation which did not join with Christians of other denominations in marking this week in a special way.
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geroff
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But it could be that that the advertising is for 'public' services - they might well have a members only do on Good Friday. I had a brief sojurn with a Christian fellowship in the early 80s (before they invented Vineyard). One of the things that made me want to leave was finding that they had meetings to which I was not welcome because I was not a member. Just a thought.
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South Coast Kevin
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quote: Originally posted by geroff: But it could be that that the advertising is for 'public' services - they might well have a members only do on Good Friday.
I'd be pretty surprised if a Vineyard church had 'members only' services, although having services that aren't publicly advertised (which are nonetheless open to non-members) might happen.
Not an issue with my Vineyard church, in any case, as we don't even have a formal membership system!
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geroff
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There is quite an interesting article about leadership on the Vineyard UK website which shows them to be a network of independent churches with some kind of oversight. Their object is to ' preach the gospel, plant churches and change the world'.
Sorry I cross posted with someone who knows better - see above. [ 31. March 2013, 17:14: Message edited by: geroff ]
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