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Qoheleth.
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I wonder what fellow denizens can tell us about Ascension Day?
Some will undoubtedly debate the propriety of keeping the Feast on Thursday and/or Sunday.
We're hosting the Team Parish Mass of the Day in the evening, and letting off rockets! ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
What are you doing?
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With a triumphant shout!
There'll be a damp squib of a Low Mass on Thursday and there'll be a banner in the entrance procession but that'll be it, I'd've thought.
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Unfortunately in our local church there will be no Divine Liturgy at all as the priest has a number of churches he attends to, so he will be serving the liturgy in another church. Yes, it would be strange to me to celebrate Ascension day on the Sunday, seven days before Pentecost rather than ten. Fortunately over here Ascension day is a national holiday.
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We're a small rural parish so:
- sadly, no procession
- choir is likely to outnumber congregation (I rule with an iron fist!)
- God is gone up by Croft
- movements from l'Ascension before and after (2 & 4)
- glass of champagne at Rectory after service
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Originally posted by L'organist:
We're a small rural parish so:... glass of champagne at Rectory after service.
I hope it's a big glass, and you provide sufficient straws for everyone to imbibe.
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Ascension Day isn't celebrated out here in the wilds of Presbyterianism, alas.
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Solemn High with Procession and yes, though we're a bit reformed, the Extinguishing of the Paschal Candle. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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We (meaning I) will be aiming to celebrate communion in the evening in the largest of the four Union churches. With a bit of luck someone will join me. That's been my experience of Ascension Day in recent years.
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Our weekly Evensong is always on Thursday, and we have developed a tradition of an evensong with Eucharist on Ascension. Brewer evening service, Standford Coelos Ascendit Hodie, Finsi God is Gone Up, and Gibbons O Clap Your Hands.
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
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Originally posted by L'organist:
We're a small rural parish so:... glass of champagne at Rectory after service.
I hope it's a big glass, and you provide sufficient straws for everyone to imbibe.
They're Anglicans. Shared goblet. No wee cuppies.
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There's an annual ecumenical ascension service at the nearby castle hill at 7.30am (very early for this lark) from which you can see the whole city.
Every year I swear I'll go, every year I forget. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
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The Diocese here did screw up by scheduling a mandatory clergy conference over Ascension day. One of our assisting priests had to get special permission from the Bishop's office to cut out early to be on hand for our Eucharist. They have promised to avoid scheduling diocesan meetings on Principal Feasts in the future. I'd add the head shaking emoticon, but with Western Easter being so early this year, I can see how the schedule might get messed up.
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Some of The Usual Suspects will be keeping Ascension Day at Walsingham, as our annual parish pilgrimage thereto is taking place this week, but there should be enough of us to have a Low Mass tomorrow evening, with hymns and possibly incense.....
......we have invited every other parish in the Deanery to come and join us if they have no service of their own, so one or two brave souls may turn up.
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Our diocesan offices are shut, so I get a day off! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
We (meaning I) will be aiming to celebrate communion in the evening in the largest of the four Union churches. With a bit of luck someone will join me. That's been my experience of Ascension Day in recent years.
Might this be your people's way of telling you that they'd rather you transferred to Sunday? I get why people like the 10-day period from Ascension to Pentecost, but liturgy isn't about precise historical mimesis of timing (if it was, every mass would have to be in the evening).
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Agreed, Hart. But if all our celebrations were tailored to fit the convenience of the secular calendar we would miss a great deal. The church is supposed to be counter-cultural.
The UK is on of the few (the only?) European countries not to have a public holiday on Ascension Day. Even secular France does.
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Choral Eucharist 8pm followed by wine and nibbles.
Same here, except ours starts at 7.30pm.
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Our local Cathedral has The Liturgy of Ascension Day at 8pm. From past experience, this probably means the Common Worship provision, complete with Last Gospel, but the music list doesn't seem to be available AFAICS.
I would guess most Cathedrals will have some sort of Sung Eucharist, and there may be a case for local churches with a low (or nil) attendance on this particular day to go and swell the Cathedral congregations!
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I have my choice of Church of the Advent, Beacon Hill and All Saints, Ashmont. Goooood tiiiiiiimes.
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I pulled myself out of bed early to go to the 7.30am said mass at our place before heading to work. There were ten of us.
Full modern language order with all appropriate propers, all readings and psalm, brief reflection and out in 35 minutes. It didn't feel rushed at all. Oh, Creed omitted; I'm sure that's Wrong(TM) for some.
when I was at a C of E primary school in the UK, we didn't have school on Ascension Day. We went to church for a service (at which we always sang the first two verses of Alleluia, Sing to Jesus) thn had the rest of the day off.
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I hope it's a big glass, and you provide sufficient straws for everyone to imbibe.
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They're Anglicans. Shared goblet. No wee cuppies.
Wee cuppies? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
It'll be flute glasses and nibbles - probably salted almonds
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Ascension Day is a crapshoot here, so I schedule the usual services and see what happens. So...
9.35am Morning Prayer
10.00am Sung Communion
5.00pm Evening Prayer
5.30pm Holy Communion
Hopefully, the bulk of the folk - i.e. two-thirds of the half of ASA that can be bothered to turn out on Ascension Day - will turn out for the 10.00am. This has been the pattern the last few years, but they like to surprise me.
I would imagine that a lot of parishes will either transfer to Sunday, even though the bishops have not given permission for that in our jurisdiction, or have a quiet Eucharist about 7.30pm.
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The UK is on of the few (the only?) European countries not to have a public holiday on Ascension Day. Even secular France does.
Well, you can't deny a Frenchman the opportunity to faire le pont, can you?
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Originally posted by Hart:
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
We (meaning I) will be aiming to celebrate communion in the evening in the largest of the four Union churches. With a bit of luck someone will join me. That's been my experience of Ascension Day in recent years.
Might this be your people's way of telling you that they'd rather you transferred to Sunday? I get why people like the 10-day period from Ascension to Pentecost, but liturgy isn't about precise historical mimesis of timing (if it was, every mass would have to be in the evening).
No. It's these particular churches' way of saying, if it's not on a Sunday morning it's purely optional and therefore not important, and therefore not on the radar.
Despite the fact I usually sit quite lightly to liturgical fascism - Ascension is 40 days after Easter come what may. I don't move Christmas Day or Good Friday/Holy Week observances for the same reason. I'm all for making the sabbath fit man, but once in a while it's a genuinelly good thing for congregations to be encouraged to see their church worship participation as something outside of an hour's activity on Sunday mornings. Even if only once or twice a year. Not a huge ask, surely.
It's also quite ironic if there is an expectation that anything 'churchy' has to happen on a Sunday, considering a lot of threads discussing making worship available usually throw out the line at some stage that 'worship doesn't have to be on a Sunday, does it?'
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I'll have a Mass, though it might be just God and me...
Still, Happy Ascension Day everyone!
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I have my choice of Church of the Advent, Beacon Hill and All Saints, Ashmont. Goooood tiiiiiiimes.
Choices ? Choices ? One Lucky Man.
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I don't transfer feasts to Sundays. Besides which, the Sunday after Ascension has its own propers.
Low Mass at 7, even if it's just me and the server. That's how I roll.
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Secondary school came over from their annual Ascension day Eucharist today, get on for 1000 of them. Handful at our usual lunchtime Eucharist with prayers for healing. About to go over for evening Eucharist. I guess 40 or so.
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Solemn High with Procession and yes, though we're a bit reformed, the Extinguishing of the Paschal Candle.
Same here, except that we are quite unreformed. We will also have a light reception afterward.
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Priest, server, thurifer, five other chaps and one 12-year old lad at our 730pm Solemn Low Mass With Hymns And Incense (i.e. an all-male congregation - and Father did remember to say 'Pray, my brothers, that my sacrifice etc.').
About half-a-dozen of the Usual Suspects are at Walsingham, so it was quite a good turn-out......
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Twenty five folk all told from across the Team, including eight choir, one organist and five altar party, so only twelve real people. Bell ringers rang a quarter peal beforehand. And no rockets due to dreadfully stormy weather ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif) . I am minded to launch them on Sunday morning, but it's not the same.
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Has anyone ever experienced anything "unusual" for this day?
Once at Chester College a service took place on top of one of the blocks.
Chester Cathedral saw two outdoor Masses for this day when I was there, once at the back (therefore up a few stairs) and once in Abbey Square (more in the public sphere, and again, up a few stairs).
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25 came to a lunchtime BCP with hymns, and 49 to a 7.30 pm Sung Eucharist. I had forgotten how much I love "Hail the Day that sees Him rise."
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My Lutheran congregaton is celebrating Ascension on Sunday.
I visited an Episcopal place tonight. Including the altar party of three, there were five of us in attendance. No sermon, spoken Rite 2 done right. 19 minutes total. No music, but plenty of merry noise. It was glorious.
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Grand total of 11 individuals at Ascension Day services though the total was actually higher due the twicers and thricers. We ended up with 5 at MP; 10 at Sung HC; and 2 in the evening. To make matters worse, three of the usual suspects are out of action, a couple were out of town, and none of the 'iffies' showed. In short the total attendance was not quite one-third of ASA.
The parish seems to have a fairly well entrenched pattern of Sundays plus Christmas (Eve), Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Maundy Thursday, All Saints, and Ascension, in that order, are the also rans. Reminds me a lot of the Church of Ireland in my youth ![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
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Church of the Advent, Beacon Hill had a goodly crowd of a few dozen. Not bad, considering the stormy weather.
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I attended a midday mass at a church that was having a full choral mass in the evening.
I didn't count but the chapel was full, about 25 people.
Much as I admire hart, he's wrong and Anselmina is right. The Ascension is not an historic event but a profound theological insight. (If it was an event, John's gospel seems to locate it later on Easter Day.)
Celebrating it on the Thursday is not an historic reenactment, but staying in line with two millenia of Christian tradition.
There may be good pastoral reasons for keeping it on Sunday, nonetheless, and I'm not condemning that.
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I attended Choral Eucharist in our local cathedral and the congregation was almost outnumbered by the choir and clergy. Not helped I suppose by being advertised on the website as 17.30 in the Lady Chapel whereas in fact it started at 17.15 at the high altar.
It was a very lack-lustre affair with a gloomy musical setting and only one well-known Ascension hymn. But other peoples' MMV. It was good to be there nevertheless.
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Father did remember to say 'Pray, my brothers, that my sacrifice etc.').
Well, if one is going to use gender-nonspecific language, one ought to use it regardless of the gender of those present.
'Brethren' was fine over the years to signify 'men and women.' Certainly 'sisters and brothers' or 'brothers and sisters' is apposite when it appears only males are present. Except perhaps in a monastic setting.
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Well I managed to get out of bed for the outdoor early morning service in a ruined castle. There were 20-25 people and 1 dog, and the singing was accompanied by birdsong. An unusual and rewarding experience.
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Why in a ruined castle?
Oh - and the obsession with Finzi is coz he is A Great Composer.......
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Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
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Father did remember to say 'Pray, my brothers, that my sacrifice etc.').
Well, if one is going to use gender-nonspecific language, one ought to use it regardless of the gender of those present.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I try to say what I mean and mean what I say, which means that if I'm referring to men and women I'll either use both genders or a neutral term, but if it's just men I'm talking about or just women, I'll just use one.
At the seminary, we often have an all-made crowd for Mass, so "Pray, brothers," if there are women "pray, my brothers and sisters." What I'm always impressed by is when the presider notices a sole woman and says "pray, my brothers and sister."
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Something mildly interesting I noticed yesterday. We had two readings. The first was the first chapter or so of Acts. The second was the last chapter or so of Luke. So if you hold on to the tradition that Acts is a continuation of Luke, it was a bit like watching the Battle of Hoth scene from Empire, followed by the destruction of the Death Star scene from New Hope. (I told you it was only mildly interesting.)
We had pretty good turn out, but Thursday is our regular evensong evening, so it was mostly the Evensong regulars- I don't know how many people made a special appearance. The music went well, although I did get a slight look from the person next to me when I whispered a "two" too loudly while counting off notes on the Gibbons- even one of the best singers in our choir admitted that he has to count under his breath to keep his place in that one. There's so much going on, I doubt anyone in the congregation notices.
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Something mildly interesting I noticed yesterday. We had two readings. The first was the first chapter or so of Acts. The second was the last chapter or so of Luke. So if you hold on to the tradition that Acts is a continuation of Luke, it was a bit like watching the Battle of Hoth scene from Empire, followed by the destruction of the Death Star scene from New Hope. (I told you it was only mildly interesting.)
We had pretty good turn out, but Thursday is our regular evensong evening, so it was mostly the Evensong regulars- I don't know how many people made a special appearance. The music went well, although I did get a slight look from the person next to me when I whispered a "two" too loudly while counting off notes on the Gibbons- even one of the best singers in our choir admitted that he has to count under his breath to keep his place in that one. There's so much going on, I doubt anyone in the congregation notices.
Our first reading was the ascension of Elijah, but the preacher pointed out that Luke reports the ascension of Jesus twice- just like seeing the last scene of the first movie in a sequel.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I think it may be time for TEC to consider moving Ascension to the Sunday following, as the Romans and Lutherans do.
In Vanuatu, Ascension Day is a public holiday and every church is full, even the Presbyterian and Pentecostal, but in the US, one life-long Episcopalian told me she was asked by a convert of several years:
Convert of ten years: "What is this Ascension Thursday?"
Life longer: "I have no idea."
We had 8, which in a tiny church in a small town, isn't bad.
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Choral Eucharist 8pm followed by wine and nibbles.
It was gorgeous:
Coelos ascendit hodie - Stanford
Mass setting: James McMillan
Ascendens Christus in altum -Vioctoria.
Poor turnout though - 57 people.
We had that 'last gospel' thing as well - actually from Acts about how the disciples went home afterwards and awaited the Spirit.
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57 sounds good. We had 44 communicants, not sure of total, 18 girls in choir, but don't know how many are communicants. We ended under west window and heard great commission
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