|
Source: (consider it)
|
Thread: Why aren't Christians known for their parties?
|
seekingsister
Shipmate
# 17707
|
Posted
quote:
Originally posted by malik3000:
quote:
Originally posted by seekingsister:
You know Rastafarianism is a religion, right?
A Christian party based on a different religion strikes me as slightly odd.
Tangent: As someone who has a little familiarity with Rastafari, it is first of all a spiritual movement, and only for some (OK many but far from all) is it a religion in the textbook definition of the term. While many Rastas specifically consider Haile Selassie to be Jesus returned to earth, by no means do all Rastas adhere to this belief. It is possible to be an orthodox Christian and be a Rasta. For that matter one can be an orthodox Muslim and be a Rasta.
I consider myself a Rasta, znd have much love for the Rastas who have been in my life. Among it's other appeals to me is its emphasis on love, on the One God as a God of love, and on liberation, both personal and societal.
When i was diagnosed with a life-threatening medical condition 15 years ago, a scary time, my Rasta spirituality and Rasta sisters and brothers were definitely a source of strength to me at that time -- as was my Catholic Christian spirituality. I still consider myself a Rasta although these days I am mostly involved in other aspects of my spirituality.
As a spiritual movement, it is not required to smoke ganja, nor have dreadlocks. The reggae group Morgan Heritage has a song "You don't have to be dread to be rasta".
Many rastas turned to more orthodox expressions of Christianity when Haile Selassie visited Jamaica, and made that he was a human, and not someone to be worshiped as God. Bob Marley was baptised into the Ethiopian Orthodox church (which caused a rift between him and Peter Tosh) and had an Ethiopian Orthodox funeral. (OK, i know the Ethiopian Orthodox and Copts are not as orthodox as Chalcedonians would like, but they certainly are not other than a Christian body.)
Re the rasta party, I might have a bit of discomfort with white kids wearing "rasta wigs" -- that could seem to me to have something of a minstrel-show aspect.
Thanks for the insight - you're certainly more of an expert on this topic!
Posts: 1371 | From: London | Registered: May 2013
| IP: Logged
|
|
Jude
Shipmate
# 3033
|
Posted
Originally posted by Svetlana: -
quote:
I'm a bit confused. You don't like teetotal Christian parties, and you feel guilty about drinking alcohol, but you DO like Christian parties where there's a lot of alcohol? How does that work?
It works because I don't feel guilty when drinking with the Christians who like a few drinks. ISTM that if they can have a few drinks, it must be ok. But then I go somewhere with the Christians who frown on alcoholic consumption, and feel guilty for wanting a drink.
BTW, the parties where Christians are drinking are certainly not the prodigal sort, they are just people having fun, and quite genteel really, e.g. singing patriotic songs in the back garden at midnight for the Queen's Jubilee!
--------------------
"...But I always want to know the things one shouldn’t do.”
“So as to do them?” asked her aunt.
“So as to choose,” said Isabel.
Henry James - The Portrait of A Lady
Posts: 233 | From: A town with four parishes | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
Jude
Shipmate
# 3033
|
Posted
Sorry, I was replying to SvitlanaV2. Sorry for wrong name and double post - missed edit window. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
--------------------
"...But I always want to know the things one shouldn’t do.”
“So as to do them?” asked her aunt.
“So as to choose,” said Isabel.
Henry James - The Portrait of A Lady
Posts: 233 | From: A town with four parishes | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
LeRoc
Famous Dutch pirate
# 3216
|
Posted
In many regions, Christians are known for their parties. Whether all Christian Democratic Parties are really Christian, is another question though.
(@Malik3000: Respect.)
--------------------
I know why God made the rhinoceros, it's because He couldn't see the rhinoceros, so He made the rhinoceros to be able to see it. (Clarice Lispector)
Posts: 9474 | From: Brazil / Africa | Registered: Aug 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
SvitlanaV2
Shipmate
# 16967
|
Posted
quote:
Originally posted by Jude:
I don't feel guilty when drinking with the Christians who like a few drinks. ISTM that if they can have a few drinks, it must be ok. But then I go somewhere with the Christians who frown on alcoholic consumption, and feel guilty for wanting a drink.
Oh, well, the answer to that is not to hang out with teetotal Christians if you can help it. Either that or develop some sort of theological justification for your drinking habits. What other people think shouldn't be the dominant issue, ISTM.
I prefer not to drink alcohol, so I can feel a little strange in social situations where the conviviality is based around it. I can cope with that, although some people do have a bit of an issue with non-drinkers.
Posts: 6668 | From: UK | Registered: Feb 2012
| IP: Logged
|
|
would love to belong
Shipmate
# 16747
|
Posted
quote:
Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
quote:
Originally posted by Jude:
I don't feel guilty when drinking with the Christians who like a few drinks. ISTM that if they can have a few drinks, it must be ok. But then I go somewhere with the Christians who frown on alcoholic consumption, and feel guilty for wanting a drink.
Oh, well, the answer to that is not to hang out with teetotal Christians if you can help it. Either that or develop some sort of theological justification for your drinking habits. What other people think shouldn't be the dominant issue, ISTM.
I prefer not to drink alcohol, so I can feel a little strange in social situations where the conviviality is based around it. I can cope with that, although some people do have a bit of an issue with non-drinkers.
As a non drinker, I have sadly learned that some people have a bit of an issue with non drinkers. If challenged, I explain that its nothing to do with religion, morality, temperance etc, I just cannot stand the taste, same as I do t eat anchovies ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posts: 331 | From: Lost and confused | Registered: Oct 2011
| IP: Logged
|
|
Sioni Sais
Shipmate
# 5713
|
Posted
quote:
Originally posted by would love to belong:
quote:
Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
quote:
Originally posted by Jude:
I don't feel guilty when drinking with the Christians who like a few drinks. ISTM that if they can have a few drinks, it must be ok. But then I go somewhere with the Christians who frown on alcoholic consumption, and feel guilty for wanting a drink.
Oh, well, the answer to that is not to hang out with teetotal Christians if you can help it. Either that or develop some sort of theological justification for your drinking habits. What other people think shouldn't be the dominant issue, ISTM.
I prefer not to drink alcohol, so I can feel a little strange in social situations where the conviviality is based around it. I can cope with that, although some people do have a bit of an issue with non-drinkers.
As a non drinker, I have sadly learned that some people have a bit of an issue with non drinkers. If challenged, I explain that its nothing to do with religion, morality, temperance etc, I just cannot stand the taste, same as I do t eat anchovies
One of the saddest features of too many parties is that hosts go to too little effort to cater for non-drinkers. Too often it is fruit juice, mixers or kid's stuff with just maybe a bottle of alcohol free beer or wine.
One of the benefits of getting enough variety of drinks to make cocktails is that one can make a better variety of non-alcoholic drinks, especially if you go to the trouble of putting fruit through a blender. Bananacoladas* were quite a hit and Virgin Daiquiris can work well in numerous variations.
*Banana, pineapple juice, coconut cream and crushed pineapple with lots of ice, through a blender, IIRC.
eta: Don't forget garnishes!
[ 04. September 2013, 13:46: Message edited by: Sioni Sais ]
--------------------
"He isn't Doctor Who, he's The Doctor"
(Paul Sinha, BBC)
Posts: 24276 | From: Newport, Wales | Registered: Apr 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
Albertus
Shipmate
# 13356
|
Posted
Angostura bitters and tonic (that is, a ginless pink G&T) does contain alcohol but the alcohol content is so low that it is effectively non-alcoholic, and it is a good, sophisticated, grown-up drink.
--------------------
My beard is a testament to my masculinity and virility, and demonstrates that I am a real man. Trouble is, bits of quiche sometimes get caught in it.
Posts: 6498 | From: Y Sowth | Registered: Jan 2008
| IP: Logged
|
|
would love to belong
Shipmate
# 16747
|
Posted
I'm quite happy with a coke (cola, not the white stuff) with ice and a slice.
Posts: 331 | From: Lost and confused | Registered: Oct 2011
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Printer-friendly view
