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Spike
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I need to lay off the carbs, so spaghetti is not a good idea for me
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Originally posted by Yangtze:
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Originally posted by Spike:
Why not a pub?
Because up thread Smudgie was excited about joining & it not being in a pub.
Nunc, it's no good for the Meet but if you're in London for a few days the Leon small chain might be quite handy for you to know about. Heaps of GF & DF options and lovely helpful staff. Fast food style in the day and semi-service in the evenings.
Leon would be prefect - but none of the restaurants are open Sunday evening apart from the one at Kings Cross. They might make a good not a pub option for those wanting to meet during the day. And you appear to be able to book.
See here for locations. There's one in the Strand which would mean that those wanting to the pub afterwards could go to the Chandos.
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[ 17. August 2013, 10:13: Message edited by: Tubbs ]
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Scanning back up the thread this is what Nunc Dimittis said:
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If we could do the London meet on the evening of the 1st, I'd be grateful.
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My train from Chester gets in at 3:43. I'm staying in Bayswater, so somewhere uncomplicated for me to get to for dinner would be feasible.
I don't know London at all, and have no idea of distances or travel times.
I'd be quite amenable to attending Evensong somewhere first before dinner, or just going straight to dinner...
Train from Chester getting in at 3:43pm (at Euston) to Bayswater (TfL says 20 minutes without walking to a hotel and booking in) to the Crypt is going to be pushing it (read - not possible) for Evensong at 5pm.
Heading off to pm Nunc ...
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Nunc
An odd remember of your family history has come into focus. I wonder with the date of your parents being around whether they may be interested in attending London Gaelic Service.
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no answer from Nunc Dimittis yet, but ...
thinking from Bayswater and pubs with food that might work, does anyone know the Phoenix? They serve baked potatoes although the filling will need a bit of sorting out and a salmon on rice dish that might be possible for Nunc to eat. Food is served to 9pm on a Sunday night and there's a list of real ale. The disadvantages are that it's a sports pub, so if there's a game on, it might not be possible to talk.
Alternatively The Bayswater Arms - but the food options don't look so great, particularly as the same menu turns up in all the Timothy Taylor pubs which makes me suspect that they won't be able to serve, eg, a salad without the onion easily.
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Tubbs
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Given that there are people coming from all parts of London and there's a preference for not a pub, followed by a pub then a more central location might work better. Assuming that some of those wanting not a pub will arrive before Nunc, the Crypt / Leon followed by one of the pubs where you can book a section might work better. (I think Deputy Verger said the Sherlock took bookings). The Leon takes bookings, closes at 7pm and does GF food if that helps. They also has the advantage of being places that people know are okay. (And, after the Gambit meet, venues that are still open!)
Rev T (posts as Polly) and I were hoping to come. We'd need somewhere child friendly as the Tubblet will be with us. She's nearly 10.
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Tubbs - I think you're right about central locations, but have you looked at the menu for Leon? They are great for gluten free, but the only evening dishes that are both gluten and dairy free are curries - the Leon Gobi and Thai Green Chicken - and Nunc Dimittis said she couldn't eat curry. There isn't a whole lot of anything that is both dairy and gluten free, anywhere in London, trust me, I've looked for years, let alone avoiding curry, onion and capiscums.
Having worked out when Nunc arrived - 3:45pm at Euston, I worked out that by the time she'd travelled to Bayswater, checked in and then travelled to Trafalgar Square she'd be lucky to get there for 5:30pm, which pretty much wipes out the Crypt.
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Serious suggestion - how does a picnic in Hyde Park for a general meet sound? Followed by a pub meet?
My daughter is down for the weekend - probably will already be on a train back home by the time of the meet - so I will already be catering dairy and gluten free and am happy to volunteer to make food for Nunc Dimittis and me.
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Spike
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Just as long as the pub does food as well as it's unlikely we'll be able to get along in the afternoon
[ 18. August 2013, 13:27: Message edited by: Spike ]
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Nunc Dimittis
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Hi folks, sorry to be AWOL; I've had issues with www connectivity here at the Library... (long story).
Ok: a church service would be nice, but not absolutely essential. I would rather see shipfolk.
I am perfectly ok with a roast potato with salad, or a hog roast or a roast with veges. I also LOVE Japanese food.
I'd be happy with doing a food meet followed by a pub meet (to satisfy all comers). I like pubs.
I don't particularly care where it is - just as long as it's easy to get to. I've never been to London before, so the simpler, the better.
So far I've discovered places over here are not very aware of gluten intolerance, so I appreciate the difficulty of finding somewhere mutually beneficial.
Yangtze, thanks for that info about the Leon food chain; that will be most helpful.
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Tubbs
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Tubbs - I think you're right about central locations, but have you looked at the menu for Leon? They are great for gluten free, but the only evening dishes that are both gluten and dairy free are curries - the Leon Gobi and Thai Green Chicken - and Nunc Dimittis said she couldn't eat curry. There isn't a whole lot of anything that is both dairy and gluten free, anywhere in London, trust me, I've looked for years, let alone avoiding curry, onion and capiscums.
Having worked out when Nunc arrived - 3:45pm at Euston, I worked out that by the time she'd travelled to Bayswater, checked in and then travelled to Trafalgar Square she'd be lucky to get there for 5:30pm, which pretty much wipes out the Crypt.
Fair enough - I forgot about the differences in the evening and day time menus. Your suggestion of a picnic in Hyde Park is a much better alternative. How does meeting from 3:30pm onwards and then aiming to get to the pub for 6pm sound?
Some practical things for those of us who'll be travelling in and don't know that part of London well ...
- Where would be a good central meeting point for those going to the park?
- Any recommendations for a good pub to go afterwards? (Needs to serve food).
- What's the plan B in case the British weather means that a picnic isn't possible.
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When I suggested Hyde Park, I was thinking that near the Serpentine Café could be an option as buying a cup of tea/coffee could put us undercover. But it's the only option that's big enough to take a group of us. Then maybe going on the Phoenix which should make it easy for Nunc Dimittis to get home.
As Nunc Dimittis has said she likes Japanese food the other thought is the South Bank has a number of restaurants in a row under the Festival Hall with space to sit and eat outside - EAT., Giraffe, Yo!Sushi. There are also places to go inside if it rains and outside there is currently a window box gardening show and a beach. There will also be a food market the weekend of 1st September. Easy pub from there is the Mulberry Bush which we know and have used before.
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Tubbs
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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
When I suggested Hyde Park, I was thinking that near the Serpentine Café could be an option as buying a cup of tea/coffee could put us undercover. But it's the only option that's big enough to take a group of us. Then maybe going on the Phoenix which should make it easy for Nunc Dimittis to get home.
As Nunc Dimittis has said she likes Japanese food the other thought is the South Bank has a number of restaurants in a row under the Festival Hall with space to sit and eat outside - EAT., Giraffe, Yo!Sushi. There are also places to go inside if it rains and outside there is currently a window box gardening show and a beach. There will also be a food market the weekend of 1st September. Easy pub from there is the Mulberry Bush which we know and have used before.
Both sound good. Nunc what did you fancy?
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I loathe the Mulberry Bush. £4 for orange juice and soda. Four quid. A pint of beer was less than that. And terrible, rude, poor, bar staff to boot.
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Spike
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Originally posted by Yangtze:
I loathe the Mulberry Bush. £4 for orange juice and soda. Four quid. A pint of beer was less than that.
So drink beer then ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
I have to say I'm not a great fan of the Mulberry Bush either.
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Originally posted by Spike:
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Originally posted by Yangtze:
I loathe the Mulberry Bush. £4 for orange juice and soda. Four quid. A pint of beer was less than that.
So drink beer then
I have to say I'm not a great fan of the Mulberry Bush either.
Spending brain has caught up with socialising brain ...
Unless Nunc has a great desire to see the South Bank from the right side, let's commit to the picnic in Hyde Park followed by the Phoenix. (CK, if for any reason things change and you can't cater for Nunc, flag it up and we'll find a solution!) The South Bank can be a huge money suck - and that might prevent some people from coming.
Once we know which pub we're going to, I can always ring them to see if a) a section can be booked and b) how long the Tubbs family can hang around before we create a legal issue.
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I'm happy. Picnic in the park sounds ideal. Would probably join you at the pub initially too. Not sure yet whether it'll be just me or whether I'll have my young man attached - probably the latter as there's several people he'd like to see again.
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OK, picnic is fine - have already been chatting food to daughter, who will appreciate fall out of food to take home (she's leaving earlier than this to get back around replacement buses).
I used to drink south of Hyde Park, which is not recommended for cheapness and most of the pubs I knew and loved have gone. I don't know the pubs just north of the Park. Looking for recommendations on-line there are comments that the options aren't great. Does anyone know anywhere or anything about the following pubs?
- The Duke of Kendal - they serve Sunday roasts - although the Sunday sing-a-long sounds a bit of a mixed blessing
- The Victoria - Fullers pie pub, which limits food options for Nunc Dimittis
- The Cleveland Arms is supposed to be a good pub, but the food is good microwaved stuff, done on the bar in front of you - can't find a website for them on-line
- The Phoenix mentioned above is getting mixed reviews on-line, but nothing recent.
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Spike
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
- The Victoria - Fullers pie pub, which limits food options for Nunc Dimittis
And me
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Looking around Hyde Park Corner and venturing out from there, The Grenadier looks like a proper pub! It's part of Taylor Walker.
Spike, does that work? If it does, I'll find out if they can cater for Nunc.
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Originally posted by Tubbs:
Looking around Hyde Park Corner and venturing out from there, The Grenadier looks like a proper pub! It's part of Taylor Walker.
Grenadier sounds good to me.
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That looks good to me, the Grenadier Taylor Walkers pub.
And the picnic sounds good too, though how much of it I get there for is another thing...
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I picked up the phone. The Grenadier is part of Taylor Walker, but has a different menu so catering for Nunc isn’t a problem. However, the Landlord said it was teeny tiny and the restaurant area – where we’d likely to want to be because of food and the Tubblet – was booked until 9pm. Which is probably too late. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) One to bear in mind though as the person I spoke to was lovely!
The person at the Queens Arms was also very helpful. The chef says that they can modify some of the meals for Nunc and they had tables free earlier in the evening. I took the liberty of booking a table for 10 or so at 7:30pm in the name of Wood. We have to be there by 8pm or the table will go. The Queens Arms will also let children in on Sunday.
Any objections or adjustments, then let me know!
The Queens Arms, 30 Queens Gate Mews, Kensington, London, SW7 5QL from 7:30pm onwards. Table booked in the name of Wood
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Brilliant! thank you for doing that.
No worries. I booked the table for 10-ish, but a trawel through the thread reveals that we're slighty - well double! - that. Before I ring them again to adjust it, please would you confirm whether or not you're likely to come. Based on posts, we have:
Chive
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Hi, we need to keep this open, we're not yet sure whether we can come or not.
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![[Biased]](wink.gif) Really looking forward to meeting so many of you! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Originally posted by Tubbs:
Table booked in the name of Wood
Blessed be the name of Wood
Tina & I are definites.
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I haven't posted on this thread yet but I am a maybe - depending on hospital visiting duties.
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I'll come, but I don't need to eat - I can do that at home, so a separate overflow table for a few drinkers might help. You can't talk from one end to another of a big table anyway- a couple of tables close together is good.
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Sorry, I'm going to have to bow out. I'd forgotten I was going on holiday. How I forgot this is a worry.
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I don't think I'll be able to come either, which is a shame.
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This American will be over house hunting in London that weekend and would be happy to meet some locals; would love to be added to the list. Thanks!
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What time and where are the picnic-ers meeting?
Tubbs
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Originally posted by melchi:
This American will be over house hunting in London that weekend and would be happy to meet some locals; would love to be added to the list. Thanks!
The more the merrier! It'd be great to meet you.
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Did we get a decision on picnic times?
I don't think I'll be able to get there before 3:30pm (waving daughter off on 2:15pm train), but will head across then.
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*bump*
Sorry to be so slow in joining this. I'm keen to come and it looks like I'll be free to get down to London that day. Not sure whether I'll make the picnic, but I'll definitely be at the pub for the dinner, if there's room for me.
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I should be able to make this - certainly the evening bit and possible the picnic depending on the time. Figbash may come too.
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I'm going to aim for Hyde Park around 3pm (with my book, unless the Smudgelet comes with me) and make myself comfortable by the Serpentine Cafe there. I'll try to take something to make me recognisable..... probably something penguin related.
The plan currently is to move on to the pub for a little while too.
Looking forward to this
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Sorry, but we're going to have to bail out of this one.
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Hi folks, I will make my way to the Serpentine Cafe once I've checked into the hotel. Probably won't be til about 5pm - hope that's ok.
Looking forward to meeting many of you and seeing some of you again!
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Similarly, I probably won't be getting to the Serpentine until 5pm or later. I forgot that today is St Giles' Day and therefore the parish lunch, here!
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Will be there a little later than planned - blame post-church-chat and Sunday travel arrangements.
Sadly, looking properly at logistics now, I have a feeling that I may not be able to manage the pub as well. My brain had not registered 7.30pm instead of 6pm and the length of the journey home afterwards combined with the fact that I start a new job tomorrow.
Utterly frustrating as I was so looking forward to seeing some of you who are only going to the pub, but I guess the main things is to get a chance to see Nunc. Maybe I just have to be ultra organised next time and make sure I get to the next London meet with no need for an early departure.
Still, picnic in Hyde Park
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