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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: Ever the fucking pedant.
As opposed to what? The celibate pedant?
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orfeo
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I read it as fucking pendant, the first time.
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: Ever the fucking pedant.
As opposed to what? The celibate pedant?
Obviously he's a fucking pedant. He has offspring, yeah? I suppose he could be a celibate pedant now, though I truly do not care to know.
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Kelly Alves
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I think the shutdown is making everybody loopy.
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Kelly Alves
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(mopping soda off monitor)
Don't tell me white boys can't dance.
I can just hear the director-- "Keep your hands clenched, Rick, that's so hot. Ok, pretend like you are working maracas. Beautiful, baby!" [ 12. October 2013, 03:50: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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orfeo
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quote: Originally posted by Patdys: I did warn you...
Yes, but as a Host I have to look. Bastard.
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Kelly Alves
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I have not stopped laughing since I last posted. My face hurts. Pissy, you are such a tool.
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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rolyn
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by South Coast Kevin: Feeblest Hell thread in several weeks?
No.
The driving and parking ones take that title easily.
Couldn't agree more .
I know actual Hell is supposed to be all about taking skinny dips in burning lakes and all that -- but being forced for all eternity to listen to a continuous liturgy on how to park a car ?
Now that's bonafide torment that is .
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Taliesin
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we couldn't see the link that made you laugh, Kelly, blocked our country. Now that's torment....
I'm joining in this fight because, despite knowing it's not even slightly what the OP meant, I am sick to the back teeth of people who don't listen properly. They hear a sentence or two and guess the rest. Even if you choose your sentences carefully. Even if you speak slowly and look at the person. [ 12. October 2013, 10:52: Message edited by: Taliesin ]
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: . . . . . I am sick to the back teeth of people who don't listen properly. They hear a sentence or two and guess the rest. Even if you choose your sentences carefully. Even if you speak slowly and look at the person.
Ah, the traditional English response to the inability of Johnny Foreigner to comprehend God's Own language.
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lilBuddha
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Foreigners? You don't get out much, do you?
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Rev per Minute
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: . . . . . I am sick to the back teeth of people who don't listen properly. They hear a sentence or two and guess the rest. Even if you choose your sentences carefully. Even if you speak slowly and look at the person.
Ah, the traditional English response to the inability of Johnny Foreigner to comprehend God's Own language.
Cymraeg, wrth gwrs (Welsh, of course)
Or am I not reading carefully enough?
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Taliesin
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You're joking, right? I tried to write your name and predictive text turned it into dinosaurs, which I can t fight just now I lived in Palastine for 6 weeks, and found everyone would check out what they'd heard, to make sure they got it right. Wonderful.
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BroJames
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: . . . . . I am sick to the back teeth of people who don't listen properly. They hear a sentence or two and guess the rest. Even if you choose your sentences carefully. Even if you speak slowly and look at the person.
Ah, the traditional English response to the inability of Johnny Foreigner to comprehend God's Own language.
I don't think the problem is so much with people who don't speak your language. If they do guess at what you're saying, they usually check, because the chance of getting it wrong is so obvious.
I think it's more often people who do speak your own language natively, but who aren't focussed. Sometimes they are just distracted, looking around for another conversation or something, what you're saying doesn't seem important enough to them.
Sometimes what distracts them from really listening to what you say is the business of thinking about how they are going to reply to you. They don't listen to you fully, and they get (guess) it wrong.
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Taliesin
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Exactly. One's own mother at the top of the list, with over sensitive colleague a close second. Colleague is not, for the record, an EAL speaker.
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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..the man hears what he wants to hear And disregards the rest
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QLib
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quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: I am sick to the back teeth of people who don't listen properly. They hear a sentence or two and guess the rest. Even if you choose your sentences carefully. Even if you speak slowly and look at the person.
quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: Exactly. One's own mother at the top of the list, with over sensitive colleague a close second. Colleague is not, for the record, an EAL speaker.
I may be putting two and two together and making five but it seems to me at least possible that your first two sentences upset your colleague so much that s/he didn't listen to the rest. Of course, that might not be your fault, but it's still not a simple 'people don't listen' problem.
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Taliesin
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In my experience, people don't listen properly, and don't read for comprehension. It is laziness, lack of time, energy or interest. A wise man once wrote, 'true listening is love in action.' It's a skill that takes thought and needs practice. I didn't really 'listen properly' to sioni sais' point, and certainly responded as if he said something a bit different.. partly because I felt poked with a stick and partly cos I'm writing on a kindle, which is limiting. My colleague doesn't listen properly, partly because, as a teacher, she is used to hearing the subtext and answering that, to save time, perhaps. But mostly she hears blame and criticism where none is intended. And that is, for all sorts of noble reasons, because she is sed to taking responsibility, or having to justify herself, or whatever. Other people are busy with other agendas. Now I'm wondering of I'm on the wrong board.
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Taliesin
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Of course, it should have had 'often'. Often, people don't listen properly. Children and adults with less power than others will find this most frustrating.
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Sioni Sais
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Oh fuck.
I repeat some cheap jibe about the English SHOUTING at those who don't speak English, which is a dig at the English, forgetting that a good proportion of the audience has their irony detectors on "standby". If they have them fitted that is. That or their SOH is on holiday.
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Lamb Chopped
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I don't know about communication in general, but i can testify that this listener misses a lot of stuff when worried and scared--at the moment, about health and family issues. It's rotten but i don't know how to fix it. And i sure can't explain it at my work (where it happens most dangerously) since mentioning such issues is a definite no-no and considered unprofessional.
I try to keep a paper trail so i can obsess over whether "they really meant that." Clutches head...
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Taliesin
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Sigh. I said, you're joking, right? Yes, dig at English, yes accurate and yes, as funny to me at this moment as digs at the Americans is to Americans. Sorry, I'll get out of hell. I thought I was being funny at one point, but it obviously missed. Sorry.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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FWIW, I felt you, Taliesin. My family communication style is for folk to listen just long enough to formulate a counterpoint-- because it's never a discussion, it's always a debate-- and to charge in and defend that counterpoint whether or not the speaker is finished. Usually at several decibels higher than normal.
The big hint for me was the bit in the beginning where you said you weren't allowed to complete a sentence-- that is not ABOUT language comprehension. And I wonder if you are slowing down your speech to force calm on the situation. And I would be a bigass bar of chocolate that when you try to speak in soothing tones you get 'STOP PATRONIZING ME!" [ 13. October 2013, 16:59: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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Meg the Red
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Geeze Kelly, now I want to be a bigass bar of chocolate. At least I've got the big ass part down.
Sigh.
As you were.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: Sigh. I said, you're joking, right? Yes, dig at English, yes accurate and yes, as funny to me at this moment as digs at the Americans is to Americans. Sorry, I'll get out of hell. I thought I was being funny at one point, but it obviously missed. Sorry.
Screwed that royally didn't I!
(btw, I'm English, though I live in Wales.)
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by Meg the Red: Geeze Kelly, now I want to be a bigass bar of chocolate. At least I've got the big ass part down.
Sigh.
As you were.
Stop patronizing me.
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Taliesin
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I love you all.
A glorious mishmash of wordage, a smorgasbord of verbal delight, in this crazy craft upon a sea of syllables...
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Sioni Sais
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Well, verbal d . . something . .
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