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L'organist wins the thread for having to deal with the couple who don't understand the difference between a living breathing musician and a jukebox.
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L'organist wins the thread for having to deal with the couple who don't understand the difference between a living breathing musician and a jukebox.
I must have missed the bit where they tried to stick a coin in her slot
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As for your assertion that any organist for a wedding will "play what they will" you are so wide of the mark as to be in another hemisphere.
To imply that all members of any group completely conform to the same standards is a bit ludicrous.
As for "proper" behaviour, that is perspective, isn't it? Shoulders exposed: acceptability is generational. Nipples exposed: yeah, that is a bit over the line. See the difference?
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Organists who play what they will, not the couple's choice, choristers who think they are the main show, etc.
Would you agree that choristers who lower their standards to sing a banal pop song, specially arranged in four-part harmony by the organist at the request of the bride and groom, are entitled to feel slightly miffed if the congregation sit and talk (loudly) amongst themselves all the way through it?
Of course they are entitled to feel miffed, though I should hope they would feel miffed regardless of choice of music.
However, neither they, nor any of the other officiants, are at a wedding for their own pleasure.
You, and the others, are there for the couple being married.
People should be courteous to each other, regardless of where one is sitting in the building, All categories will have some who fail this.
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I dunno. It seems to me that, if a couple decides to marry in a church, they are deciding to have their wedding be primarily a worship service to God, and the minster and organist need to make that clear.
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Dunno, I've read your book. I cannot help but think Jesus was hardly as stodgy as some of his adherents.
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It goes without saying that, if a coupe decides to marry outside the Church, they are free to incorporate any Jesus they like into their ceremony.
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So, I suppose what you are saying is that I'd do poorly as a stick merchant outside of most churches.
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Of course they are entitled to feel miffed, though I should hope they would feel miffed regardless of choice of music.
However, neither they, nor any of the other officiants, are at a wedding for their own pleasure.
Well, I only mentioned the choice of music to illustrate the amount of extra effort that the choir and organist put in to accommodate the bride and groom's choice. If they'd asked for Rutter's 'The Lord bless you and keep you' we could have sung it in our sleep, and we are used to wedding congregations treating us like wallpaper. It was the combination of demanding extra effort (including the organist having to do a special arrangement of the song they wanted) and then totally ignoring the result that was annoying.
And you're right, none of us would give up our Saturday afternoon to attend the wedding of two complete strangers for pleasure. But most of us are there because we think that getting married in church is important and we want to support other people who think so too. Even if they do make us sit through that ghastly story about the Two Dinosaurs yet again ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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Originally posted by Zach82:
I dunno. It seems to me that, if a couple decides to marry in a church, they are deciding to have their wedding be primarily a worship service to God...
Just because one might hope that doesn't mean that it is always, or even often, the case.
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Originally posted by Carex:
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Originally posted by Zach82:
I dunno. It seems to me that, if a couple decides to marry in a church, they are deciding to have their wedding be primarily a worship service to God...
Just because one might hope that doesn't mean that it is always, or even often, the case.
Thus carrying us forward to the second part of that sentence you cited.
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For clarity, the service is not for God. The service is not for his official* servants. The service is for the couple.
Now, the couple should choose a church which fits; i.e. third marriage, same sex hippies should not expect to be welcome in an orthodox church. But the contract should work in both directions, too often it does not seems to.
*In human POV, at least.
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It does get rather boring if you regularly sing at weddings and the vicar always preaches the same sermon. At least there is some variety in the music. Some of the time, anyway.
But the bossiest talk I've ever heard given was at a registry office wedding.
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
For clarity, the service is not for God. The service is not for his official* servants. The service is for the couple.
Now, the couple should choose a church which fits; i.e. third marriage, same sex hippies should not expect to be welcome in an orthodox church. But the contract should work in both directions, too often it does not seems to.
*In human POV, at least.
I am sure there are many venues open to wedding predicated on such an understanding, including the Elks Lodge, a hotel ball room, or a serene beach at sunrise. There may even be a decommissioned church available to rent out.
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You are as precious as ever, Zach82. You should hope my interpretation is correct. I would imagine clenching that stick for eternity would get a bit wearing.
Gives me an idea for a new Gregorian chant, though.
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Originally posted by Zach82:
Thus carrying us forward to the second part of that sentence you cited.
But there is a difficulty there: once the happy couple-to-be have chosen to have a wedding in the church for whatever more worldly reason - the carpet matches the bouquets, perhaps, or the rood screen is a nice backdrop for photos, or it is convenient to the pub, etc. - you can't go back and change their reason for making that decision.
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Originally posted by Carex:
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Originally posted by Zach82:
Thus carrying us forward to the second part of that sentence you cited.
But there is a difficulty there: once the happy couple-to-be have chosen to have a wedding in the church for whatever more worldly reason - the carpet matches the bouquets, perhaps, or the rood screen is a nice backdrop for photos, or it is convenient to the pub, etc. - you can't go back and change their reason for making that decision.
One can, however, tell them they can't have pop music at the service or release butterflies into the church, because if they wanted that sort of tawdry wank they had lots of alternatives to a church wedding.
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Why can't they have pop music or (yuck) releasing butterflies at a church wedding? Where in Scripture does Christ forbid those things?
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We were asked about releasing doves at a wedding * and when I checked there are wildlife protection guidelines for doing so (didn't include checking to make sure no peregrine nests nearby).
Not sure that releasing butterflies wouldn't have similar recommendations ~ particularly inside the building.
* we did wonder about the symbolism of joining together in matrimony and demonstrating staying together by letting two birds fly off separately.
But the it will be the fault of the church that delivers that bad news for sticking to the guidelines.
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There's also the question of how responsible a couple are for the behaviour of their guests. For example, I personally loathe seeing women dressed in black at weddings. I know it's really fashionable these days, but I Do. Not. Like. It. Black is for funerals, people. Where were you dragged up? ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
Personally when I get married I am planning to politely specify on the invitation that I would like women not to dress in black (and if they ask, I'm prepared to tell them that it's because I'm old-fashioned and was brought up to think it's not polite, and it's my wedding, dammit, and if I don't want women dressed in black I'm going to ask for no women dressed in black*). But there's a limit to how much you can try to put boundaries around people's behaviour. It's hard.
*Possibly I'm going to be bridezilla on this point, but at least I'll be bridezilla in defence of good manners. ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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I see no problem with having pop music in a church wedding. Matter of fact, many years ago I played Bryan Adam's "Everything I Do I Do It For You" for a couple who were 100% regular attendees of our church and are still thoroughly devout Christians a couple of decades later. So it's not just a question of blow-ins.
The relevant fact is that they gave me quite a few weeks notice of what they wanted me to play, therefore giving me a chance to either find print music or work out the key elements of the song. Rather than rock up and decide I could play any top 40 hit that was their heart's desire.
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Well, when I got married our recessional piece was Verdi's Triumphal March from Aida. Some people might think that was inappropriate in a church setting too - though the organist was delighted to be asked for something other than the Wedding March.
By the time our organist had finished arranging it, the pop song was actually quite a nice piece of music. Pity nobody was listening.
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Well, I've had my one (and probably only) wedding, sans clergy, sans music, sans bridesmaids, pagebrats, flowers, favours or photographer. People wore what they pleased, snapped pix when they liked. I gave them food and champagne and a bonfire. My idea was that we should all relax and enjoy ourselves.
What can I have been thinking of?
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Originally posted by orfeo:
I see no problem with having pop music in a church wedding. Matter of fact, many years ago I played Bryan Adam's "Everything I Do I Do It For You" for a couple who were 100% regular attendees of our church and are still thoroughly devout Christians a couple of decades later. So it's not just a question of blow-ins.
The relevant fact is that they gave me quite a few weeks notice of what they wanted me to play, therefore giving me a chance to either find print music or work out the key elements of the song. Rather than rock up and decide I could play any top 40 hit that was their heart's desire.
See, I can completely understand that, and L'Organist's similar complaint - I'd be pissed off if a wedding couple just decided I was a human jukebox.
My problem is with the "This is a church: no pop music allowed!" attitude of Zach (and others) on this thread and the confusion of "personal taste" with "ecclesiology" they suggest.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Well, I've had my one (and probably only) wedding, sans clergy, sans music, sans bridesmaids, pagebrats, flowers, favours or photographer. People wore what they pleased, snapped pix when they liked. I gave them food and champagne and a bonfire. My idea was that we should all relax and enjoy ourselves.
What can I have been thinking of?
This is dreadful! Think of all those choirboys who didn't get paid! What about the poor photographer who had to go on benefit to feed his children?
You're clearly a new-age hippie type out to destroy the foundations of western civilisation!
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Originally posted by Jane R:
Well, when I got married our recessional piece was Verdi's Triumphal March from Aida.
Ours was 'When I'm Sixty-Four' by The Beatles. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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Frankly Firenze, you completely failed to boost the economy as was your duty.
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'This is a church: no pop music' is quite a good way of repelling people, I suppose! We are few but pure at heart.
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Starbug: quote:
Ours was 'When I'm Sixty-Four' by The Beatles.
Very appropriate!
I'm sorry I brought up the subject of pop music at all now - our church does not have a 'no pop music' rule and we sing all sorts of stuff that I personally don't like. Everyone seems to think that I am completely against pop music in church and refuse to sing music I don't like. Neither of these is true. Or are you all just winding me up? I don't come to the infernal regions that often, so I might not have noticed...
I have even been known to sing music by Benjamin Britten. Now THERE's an objectionable composer. Obsessed with fish, too. Give me the heavy metal version of 'Let all mortal flesh keep silence' any day.
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Frankly Firenze, you completely failed to boost the economy as was your duty.
Our wine merchant came out of it quite well.
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Originally posted by Jane R.
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Well, when I got married our recessional piece was Verdi's Triumphal March from Aida.
I came into the church to that. Our organist liked it, too.
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
For clarity, the service is not for God. The service is not for his official* servants. The service is for the couple.
Actually, many churches and denominations decidedly teach against this view. The service is a worship service first, and a solemnization of vows second--in the same manner baptism or ordination services are worship services. So in that sense it is as much "for" God and his official servants as any worship service is. This is why Roman Catholics can fulfill their Sunday obligation by attending a wedding, provided it is scheduled at the right time. I sang in the choir of a Catholic church for a while, and they often had a few summer travelers sitting in at the back for a late Saturday afternoon wedding.
As for pop music--most of it isn't forbidden (when it is forbidden) because of musical taste. It's forbidden because its text is antithetical to certain Christian doctrines. Take, for instance, Dan Fogelberg's "Longer Than."* It implies that the soul has been present from the beginning of creation, and has loved the other soul from that time. If it is given the sanction of being used in the church, that creates more than a little confusion.
Most of the churches where I have worked would allow a popular piece of music if the text was indeed consistent with the religious nature of the service. Otherwise, it was always suggested that the reception was the place to feature that particular piece. I've been fortunate to work with a number of ministers who could do that quite tactfully.
*Yes, I realize that's hardly popular music anymore, but at a time when most of my contemporaries were getting married, this song was a particular issue. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to chase some kids off my lawn.
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Thank you, organbuilder.
And there are practical reasons for some objections.
First up: how many small churches have a decent sound-system for reproducing music at appropriate volume without distortion?
Where are churches meant to get the money to invest in the sort of electrical equipment they're likely to need?
What about security - and increased insurance premiums? We can't even keep our rooves safe, so fat chance for more portable electronics.
Copyright? The PRS is already sniffing about over popular music at funerals - and don't think they won't demand churches get licensed: they've already made all hairdressers garages, etc, that play a radio that customers can hear get a licence (no, they're not free either).
Above all: CONTEXT! Whitney Houston trilling I will always love you * may well make a couple's day - but perhaps better for a dance or to walk into their reception? Played on a portable boom-box in a large building with an 80foot vault it is less than impressive.
My wedding: well, into a nice processional Walton wrote for the film of Richard III, out to the final movement of Widor Symphonie No 6.
* and IMO Dolly Parton does the song better - but then she did write it...
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'This is a church: no pop music' is quite a good way of repelling people, I suppose! We are few but pure at heart.
Yet, somehow, the symbols that go along with marrying in a church continue to be a huge draw even in this secular society of ours.
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A pop song would be ok in our church, as long as it's somehow integrated into the service as a whole. I might even be the one playing it. However, I don't think that including one 'just because the couple likes it' would be easily accepted.
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Originally posted by Organ Builder:
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
For clarity, the service is not for God. The service is not for his official* servants. The service is for the couple.
Actually, many churches and denominations decidedly teach against this view. The service is a worship service first, and a solemnization of vows second--in the same manner baptism or ordination services are worship services. So in that sense it is as much "for" God and his official servants as any worship service is.
You mistake my point. My point is not that God does not belong in the service. Nor that the service should not be religious. Nor indeed that there should be no expectation of manners.
The ceremony is for the benefit of the couple. And that I think God, as described by Christians, doesn't need hushed and reverent tones.
I am saying the officiants oft times focus more on form than function. I am saying that "proper" behaviour is more often a perception than a fixed pattern.
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My opinion, take from it what you will: A service is for the benefit of the people. All of them. As soon as a given class' needs are given primacy, you've lost the plot.
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by Organ Builder:
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
For clarity, the service is not for God. The service is not for his official* servants. The service is for the couple.
Actually, many churches and denominations decidedly teach against this view. The service is a worship service first, and a solemnization of vows second--in the same manner baptism or ordination services are worship services. So in that sense it is as much "for" God and his official servants as any worship service is.
You mistake my point. My point is not that God does not belong in the service. Nor that the service should not be religious. Nor indeed that there should be no expectation of manners.
The ceremony is for the benefit of the couple. And that I think God, as described by Christians, doesn't need hushed and reverent tones.
I am saying the officiants oft times focus more on form than function. I am saying that "proper" behaviour is more often a perception than a fixed pattern.
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My opinion, take from it what you will: A service is for the benefit of the people. All of them. As soon as a given class' needs are given primacy, you've lost the plot.
I rather think Organ Builder hasn't mistaken your point. You are refusing to understand the Church's theology of wedding ceremonies, which are not, so far as the Church understands, mere ornaments on the couple's special day.
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I never said the service was a mere ornament.
A wedding in context of a religious ceremony is the couple affirming their faith and avowing their intent to include it as part of their marriage. In the case of religions which include a full service with the wedding ceremony, the crowd ought to respect the service.
However, I do think the focus on the trappings misses the point.
And I do think much of what is viewed as "proper" is more a matter of perspective than reality.
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lilbuddha: quote:
My point is not that God does not belong in the service. Nor that the service should not be religious. Nor indeed that there should be no expectation of manners.
You have a very strange way of making it, then. Perhaps if you avoided comments like this:
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I cannot help but think Jesus was hardly as stodgy as some of his adherents.
and this:
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the service is not for God. The service is not for his official* servants. The service is for the couple.
and this:
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I would imagine clenching that stick for eternity would get a bit wearing.
it might be easier to understand what you mean.
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You mistake my point.
Given the number of people who seem to be reading your posts the same way I have, it seems more likely to me that the point you have made may not have been the point you intended.
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I never said the service was a mere ornament.
However, I do think the focus on the trappings misses the point.
Perhaps my confusion stems from the fact that I see "ornament" and "trapping" as synonyms.
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LeRoc
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I got trapped by an ornament once. Took me ages to get my foot out. And the staples really hurt.
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Zach82
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While we're on the subject of pop-songs at church, we might as well watch this clip from the golden era of the Simpsons.
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Chorister
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That reminds me of when our choir was asked to sing Cohen's 'Hallelujah' at a wedding. We did agree, but left out the part about being tied to the kitchen chair
But then I guess that we're used to singing strange words with a straight face - after all, one of our most requested songs for weddings is 'Lord of the Dance': they whipped and they stripped....
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Lyda*Rose
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Hallelujah. Beautiful song, but a weird choice for a wedding, all about love gone wrong. At least the tying to the kitchen chair part was about when things were going good.
"Love is not a victory march. It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah." Now's there's a sentiment I'd love to contemplate at my wedding.
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L'organist
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We can make an alternative "wedding music from hell" list, starting with inappropriate/offensive songs or hymns.
I'll start you off with:
Lord of the Dance
Jerusalem
Kumbaya
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Organ Builder
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"Fight the good fight"? Or for divorce, perhaps "Out of my bondage, sorrow and night"...
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orfeo
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Originally posted by L'organist:
Copyright? The PRS is already sniffing about over popular music at funerals - and don't think they won't demand churches get licensed: they've already made all hairdressers garages, etc, that play a radio that customers can hear get a licence (no, they're not free either).
Sometime I might set up a separate Hell thread about my personal views on the stupidity of some copyright laws and their implementation.
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Zach82
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My wife and the organist vetoed "O Zion, Open Wide Thy Gates" for our wedding.
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RooK
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I myself got married in a church purely for decoration. Although, by "church" you should probably substitute "lovely little shack packed with benches on a remote island". And it was more a matter of my wife having fantasized getting married there due to spending summers as a child on said remote island than any sort of religious affiliation.
And the organist happily played the Imperial March for me during my entrance.
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