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Today's storm watch cancellations produced the longest list of the winter. Must be spring.

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I would have thought that having the weather service saying no precipitation pretty much guarantees a blizzard!

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A CBC weatherman said today that if we sent search parties out to look for Spring, we would not find hide not hair of it.

But you lot better by April 25.

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I love Dave Phillips -- so often his statements contain some wonderfully misapplied cliche.

"The weather Canadians are experiencing in March 2013 is, according to Phillips, historically quite normal and unremarkable." -- same CBC report

It only seems cold compared to last March, when we had record-breaking highs. But I'll gladly take this year's weather over last year's: tree fruit crops were just about wiped out in southern Ontario in 2012 by the cold snap after the warm spell. Not to mention it's Just Wrong to wear short sleeves outside in March.

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Well, I spent a perfectly pleasant weekend in Montreal at the NDP Convention. [Smile]

I haven't been to Montreal before. I can now say that I LOVE the place, and unfortunately Toronto is a dump.

I did manage to make the pilgrimage to Schwartz's and had the True Sandwich. Yum. [Big Grin]

And for those Liberals on board, I don't think you have a clue what is about to hit you. We are going to stick the knife in Mr. Trudeau's front. [Devil]

For what you are about to receive.....

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Well, I wasn't going to ask the obvious question, but since you have made your usual comments about the mammoth NDP wave that's going to overwhelm the Liberals: Now that you (the party)'ve renounced socialism and, I take it, foresworn social democracy, why on earth would anyone with left-wing principles stick with you? Its not so much the fact that you don't seem to have any particular principles at all anymore, after the convention, it's that the NDP has given up on the only thing that united it for most of its history and the only thing that, IMO, justified its existence.

AS for the mammoth wave you foresee, obviously no one can tell whatis going to happen in 2 years. And I don't actually attach a whole lot of importance to specific polls, preferring to consider the trend and not read too much into any one poll. I would point out, however, that at the moment the Liberals are in first place in the polls, ahead of the Conservatives. And in third place -- admittedly ahead of the Greens -- why, the NDP. And all three placements are roughly in the trend of recent months, though I will admit the size of the Liberal lead is certainly over-recorded.

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As John Holding says, there's no point in speculating what will happen in 2 years time. I would note that several of my desengagé friends are looking with wary interest at young Mr T. They have not heard much in the way of optimism and possibilities for some years now.

I must admit that I enjoyed voting by telephone on Friday afternoon. The barista was so impressed by my commitment to democracy that she gave me extra foam (shades of Taylor, the Latte Boy.

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quote:
Originally posted by John Holding:
Well, I wasn't going to ask the obvious question, but since you have made your usual comments about the mammoth NDP wave that's going to overwhelm the Liberals: Now that you (the party)'ve renounced socialism and, I take it, foresworn social democracy, why on earth would anyone with left-wing principles stick with you? Its not so much the fact that you don't seem to have any particular principles at all anymore, after the convention, it's that the NDP has given up on the only thing that united it for most of its history and the only thing that, IMO, justified its existence.

AS for the mammoth wave you foresee, obviously no one can tell whatis going to happen in 2 years. And I don't actually attach a whole lot of importance to specific polls, preferring to consider the trend and not read too much into any one poll. I would point out, however, that at the moment the Liberals are in first place in the polls, ahead of the Conservatives. And in third place -- admittedly ahead of the Greens -- why, the NDP. And all three placements are roughly in the trend of recent months, though I will admit the size of the Liberal lead is certainly over-recorded.

John

Sorry John, you are sadly misinformed. Resolution 7-02-13 clearly states:

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New Democrats seek a future which brings together the best of the insights and objectives of Canadians who, within the social democratic and democratic socialist traditions, have worked together through farmer labour, co-operative, feminist, human rights and environmental movements to build a more just, equal and sustainable Canada within a global community dedicated to the same goals.
As Rev. Bill Blaikie (who sat on the Revision Commission) so ably put it, we foreswore nothing and gave up nothing. We discussed resolutions that wouldn't get a look-in anywhere else. And that's why the resolution passed with 2/3 support.

As for polls, Eric Grenier and 308.com have predicted nothing of the sort, so I don't know what you're reading. The only bump the Liberals have gotten is in the last month and only with the Abacus Poll. In March, our worst result on 308.com we are only 7 seats behind you and the NDP is STILL ahead of the Liberal Party in Quebec. Most months have the NDP on top both in popular vote and especially in seats.

As well, you do remember that Justin has a record like this hum-dinger: Justin Trudeau saying he wouldn't run a Government of Canada by, for and of all Canadians. which I and my colleagues will repeatedly remind Canadians of stating now. [Devil]

How did he ever get past vetting?

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As well, you do remember that Justin has a record like this hum-dinger: Justin Trudeau saying he wouldn't run a Government of Canada by, for and of all Canadians. which I and my colleagues will repeatedly remind Canadians of stating now.

Ah... I thought it was Stephen Harper doing that... doubtless he will be glad of the NDP's work, then, as it will save him resources.

I do not know if anyone is tracking this, but my conversations with people are suggesting that the attack approach, so beloved of the Conservatives (and others?) has begun to pall. One of my diplomatic friends wondered if, faced with a choice between two stern and theoretically efficient men, Canadians were wondering if there were other possibilities.

In any case, I'll be in Montréal in a few days and will be taking sake with one of my pollster friends, who has been infallible for the past five elections, and ask him how he thinks things might be going in two years. Let's hope that we are all here in two years! (PS No Schwartz' for me-- I will be at the Sala Rosa, where the late and blessed Lhasa de Sela sang, enjoying pulpo and rioja).

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It's not an attack ad if it's true.

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It's not an attack ad if it's true.

So John Baird once said.
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There are a few things that are toxic at the polls. One is engaging in nasty identity politics and saying that one area of the country isn't good enough for government. And I think Justin has to pay the price for his mistake.

His comments are positively deadly in this part of Ontario.

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Yes because the most important thing to Canadians is somebody paying a political price. [Roll Eyes]

We need to get a phrase that corresponds to the US term "Within the Beltway".

Cause a lot of what passes for political discourse in this country is just not cared about or used as a measuring stick by Canadians.

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You want to elect someone who won't treat every province equally and with respect, be my guest. I prefer a leader who runs a national government on behalf of all provinces.

Justin is not his father and this is but one example, no matter how much the son is trying to run a nostalgia campaign.

Anyway, I can say that our party goal is to return 100 incumbents and 100 new MP's in 2015. You do the math.

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Aside from the observation that I prefer leaders to work for Canadians and not their separate bits of territory, the political reality will not be NDP/Con/Lib/Green parties' goals, but how voters (and those who influence them) will view the separate leaders and how those leaders mesh with Canadians' aspirations. The deep polling, of which I sometimes hear whiffs (to mix a metaphor), suggests a lack of attachment to images of two grumpy and theoretically efficient middle-aged bean-counters. Whether or not that absence of enthusiasm will manifest itself in a movement of voters in two years' time will not be evident for some while yet. That both NDP and Conservative backroom folk, caffeinated to the gills, are riveting themselves to their regression analysis tables is the only fact of which we can now be certain.

Party affiliations, as such, are weaker than ever in our history. This has caused much bitter frustration to party organizers. O well.

@Og. Geographically, we could say between the Queensway and the River... most accurately, between Wellington and Lisgar Streets.

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Aside from the observation that I prefer leaders to work for Canadians and not their separate bits of territory, the political reality will not be NDP/Con/Lib/Green parties' goals, but how voters (and those who influence them) will view the separate leaders and how those leaders mesh with Canadians' aspirations. The deep polling, of which I sometimes hear whiffs (to mix a metaphor), suggests a lack of attachment to images of two grumpy and theoretically efficient middle-aged bean-counters. Whether or not that absence of enthusiasm will manifest itself in a movement of voters in two years' time will not be evident for some while yet. That both NDP and Conservative backroom folk, caffeinated to the gills, are riveting themselves to their regression analysis tables is the only fact of which we can now be certain.
Oh dear, you didn't fall for Justin's "Youth" line, did you Augustine? That man is 41. We have a good number of our caucus (often much) younger then he is. I am 30 and I'm not young by NDP standards. I don't remember the (pere) Trudeau years, I wasn't even born for most of them. My generation, "the youth", doesn't care about what we don't remember.

The next person who mutters "Justin" and "Youth" and I am going to start parading our caucus: Alexandrine Lantandresse, Alexandre Boiliveau, Anne Quach, Hoang Mai, Niki Ashton, the entire McGill Contingent..... Shall I go on?

It's not the 1970's anymore!

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Well, I do remember the Christmas when JT was born, and lo it was a while ago. He's still younger than most.

I'd like to believe that ideas and policies count, but I live in a riding that's safe Tory. Run a blue rock, and it will win here.

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Aside from the observation that I prefer leaders to work for Canadians and not their separate bits of territory, the political reality will not be NDP/Con/Lib/Green parties' goals, but how voters (and those who influence them) will view the separate leaders and how those leaders mesh with Canadians' aspirations. The deep polling, of which I sometimes hear whiffs (to mix a metaphor), suggests a lack of attachment to images of two grumpy and theoretically efficient middle-aged bean-counters. Whether or not that absence of enthusiasm will manifest itself in a movement of voters in two years' time will not be evident for some while yet. That both NDP and Conservative backroom folk, caffeinated to the gills, are riveting themselves to their regression analysis tables is the only fact of which we can now be certain.
Oh dear, you didn't fall for Justin's "Youth" line, did you Augustine? That man is 41. We have a good number of our caucus (often much) younger then he is. I am 30 and I'm not young by NDP standards. I don't remember the (pere) Trudeau years, I wasn't even born for most of them. My generation, "the youth", doesn't care about what we don't remember.

The next person who mutters "Justin" and "Youth" and I am going to start parading our caucus: Alexandrine Lantandresse, Alexandre Boiliveau, Anne Quach, Hoang Mai, Niki Ashton, the entire McGill Contingent..... Shall I go on?

It's not the 1970's anymore!

I fear, SPK, that you drew several erroneous conclusions from my post. I referred to perceptions in general, offering none of my own (as they're not that relevant here and no political organizer will construct a strategy on the thoughts of A the A). I know one and a half of the McGill contingent myself, so need no introductions--- indeed, I think that they are among the jewels of our House of Commons, although I've yet to find anyone who seems to agree with me (aside from some Clerks of Committees of the House). I would like to see some of them returned at the next election.
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@Og. Geographically, we could say between the Queensway and the River... most accurately, between Wellington and Lisgar Streets.

I like that. Thanks.

[Yipee]


Oh, and SPK, I do realise the deep hatred of the Libs and Trudeau jr. the current NDP has. He threatens them and their only recently gained but oft seen rightful place as the official opposition to the evil Tories and thus government in waiting; and he does that without seeming to have earned the right to threaten. And like the other 4 party leaders in the House, he has said stuff that is foolish.


But, the notion of the party of Tommy Douglas, and Jack Layton, now caring about making sure somebody "pays a political price"? That is back room party boss talk and Canadians do not give a darn to hear that sort of thing. We would prefer the various lots just try to get stuff done.

Part of me hopes the recent back bench revolt would get the speaker off his duff and allow for some real work to happen again in Parliament and the Senate by stripping party discipline down a bit more. I think we'd have less rancour all around. But I have my doubts that said Speaker would have the political fortitude to do so.

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I know my people here in this riding. The one thing they won't abide is a federal politician saying that they aren't good enough to run Canada. Mr. Trudeau crossed that line and handed his competitors a sword. I will use that sword. He cannot be allowed to escape the consequences of his statements, no federal politician can be let off the hook on so essential an issue as equal and respectful participation of all parts of Canada in the Government of Canada.

There are a few things no federal political leader can say or do. The first is to say that one province isn't good enough or that one province is better than the others, that's nasty identity politics. You can't treat your family that way and it's a lesson John A Macdonald knew as long ago as 1856. Mr. Trudeau violated that rule. He has made his bed and he will lie in it. He tried one of the oldest tricks in the book, saying one thing in English and another in French when he thought the other language wasn't looking. His mistake. That trick expired 20 years ago when English Canada's media learned to speak French (to get stories).

The second rule is that the era of unilingual federal party leaders is gone, over, dead, and its never coming back. The NDP Convention is fluently bilingual, on the stage and on the floor.

Og, this isn't your father's NDP. This is a party that will not be a bag of votes for the Liberals and that is going to put up one hell of a fight. We are going for government in 2015, and if that road goes through the corpse of the Liberal Party, so be it. Bring it on. The Federal NDP will do to the Federal Liberals what we did to the (real) provincial Liberals in Saskatchewan, Manitoba, BC* and possibly Nova Scotia: send them to oblivion.

*The BC Liberals are Tories.

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We shall take comfort in that the House of Commons is physically designed so that members on opposite sides are outside a sword's reach.

I will repeat, yet again, my stake of a bottle of decent Prince Edward County pinot gris that, within a week of election day, Messrs Mulcair and Trudeau will be cheerfully (while perhaps cursing beneath their breath) embracing each other as loviong brothers in the common struggle of reconstruction and united purpose.

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I fear, SPK, that you drew several erroneous conclusions from my post. I referred to perceptions in general, offering none of my own (as they're not that relevant here and no political organizer will construct a strategy on the thoughts of A the A). I know one and a half of the McGill contingent myself, so need no introductions--- indeed, I think that they are among the jewels of our House of Commons, although I've yet to find anyone who seems to agree with me (aside from some Clerks of Committees of the House). I would like to see some of them returned at the next election.
M'dear Augustine (for whom I have the greatest personal respect), you founded your post on some Liberal party polling, which is an appeal to authority, and you phrased it as your own opinion, thereby embracing it. You fell into Justin's (fallacious) narrative and you elided over the fact that there's more to the NDP than Tom Mulcair. It's Team 2015 around here.

You repeated the Liberal Party's narrative, which isn't the NDP narrative. There's no "non-partisan" here.

I'll give you that party allegiances are flightly, but how is the Liberal Party going to compete with an NDP that is competing for those same flighty votes, just the way it's done out West? There's no such thing as "non-partisan" or "non-ideological". How exactly are you going to compete when the NDP won't let you use us as a bag of votes? Rather, we're going to use some of you as a bag of votes for us, and then go after the loose Tories. And that's game.

You (and Canada) can have the Liberals or the NDP but not both. In the end, there can be only one.

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Maybe, and it will be Prime Minister Mulcair, with the larger block of votes and seats. I don't care about Ireland, that is the way it's done in Canada. The NDP will confidently sit back and offer the Liberals some tidbits, and the Liberals will be begging for Justice (the Department, for judicial appointments), and your lawyer supporters will pull their hair out if you don't get it. And my comrades will sit back, savour the glory of being in the driver's seat, and bask in the glory of it all while our guy sits in front of the mace.

A bottle Gibson's Gold Label says that the Liberals will be more uncomfortable than the NDP come 2015 at it all.

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Wrong on almost every count, SPK. It was not Liberal Party polling-- I haven't had access to that since when you were but a mewling infant in a manse. Without chapter and versing it, one major firm, a minor firm, and a think tank supremo (relatively non-partisan, but not a friend of the government and, since 1997, utterly infallible in his predictions).

Your second error is to assume (why?) that I "elide over the fact that the NDP is more than Tom Mulcair." Au contraire! my (likely incoherent) ramblings on the topic normally mention the strength of caucus, particular the newly-elected Québec MPs. I have always hoped that the NDP be more than Tom Mulcair, as I have never been a big fan of his.

The leader-focus of public feeling and public discourse is so powerful that one cannot ignore it, much as I think it is unhealthy-- party affiliations weaken by the hour, as do church memberships, and voluntary organizations generally. Predictions at this stage are a mug's game, and I have seen back room boys & gals toss their strategies back and forth, but it is voters decide what (and who) gets tossed. I will simply quote the lines which I prepared for a friend of a friend who was running (and who miserably lost, likely because he didn't use my brilliant words): Canadians will decide the numbers, and those elected are bound to work with them, no matter what they might be.

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My dear Augustine:

You had an Argumentum ad populum cast as an Appeal to Authority in your post and it undercut the rest of the post. This plus the Justin narrative did nothing for your point.

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I haven't had access to that since when you were but a mewling infant in a manse.
That's not funny and a personal attack.

Augustine, I know you too well to think that such as well-connected gentleman as yourself, and you are extremely well connected, were not quoting the products of a pollster intended for a party, very likely the Liberal Party, the kind that circulates in Ottawa's air by Ottawa's very nature. Polling it may be, but neutral it is not.

If you want to see the NDP as cute (I take it your opinion on the McGill Caucus is that they are cute and worthy), you are more then welcome to. But as I said, the NDP is through with cute. Canada can have the Liberals, they can have the NDP, but they can't have both. I would have thought you would understand the sharp edge of competitive politics.

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Before we totally wear out the AS Host's patience, may I humbly suggest we continue this somewhat heated but interesting political tangent in Purg? I'll start a thread tomorrow.

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Before we totally wear out the AS Host's patience, may I humbly suggest we continue this somewhat heated but interesting political tangent in Purg? I'll start a thread tomorrow.

This is an EXCELLENT idea as my tether end was being reached even before I went out shopping and then came back a few minutes ago to another half dozen posts. As far as All Saints is concerned this subject is now officially deceased!

May those that have ears to hear, etc.

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Might I redirect the thread into the hardly less contentious subject of weather? Western Canadian weather at that. It was -13°C this morning. The snail's pace of melting means there is still a metre of snow in front of the house, ruts and potholes enough to throw politicians into where they can fight it out sight unseen. The weather also means we are all feeling mightily sorry for ourselves. Spring, maybe it will occur in June?
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Meg the Red
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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Spring, maybe it will occur in June?

Of what year? [Waterworks]

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I would like to report a sighting of spring. I spent a large part of the afternoon in glorious sunshine sitting on a bench eating ice cream in the Public Gardens.

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[Waterworks] [Waterworks] [Waterworks]

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As I'm sure the National media will tell you all, its going to be 22 degrees and sunny tomorrow afternoon here in the National media's playground.

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[Waterworks] [Waterworks] [Waterworks] [Waterworks] [Waterworks] [Waterworks]

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Good Heavens, I've been raking leaves off the lawn and flowerbeds for a week now. The crocuses and tulips are up, as is the rhubarb, and the pussy-willows are showing.

And the first sightings of shorts are long past.

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Looking for some advice here. We are to land in Vancouver at the end of next week, and spend the next month cruising the Inside Passage, and travelling around BC and parts of Alberta, much of it by rail.

Given recent comments upthread on the slowness of spring's arrival, I am seeking some local knowledge on the sorts of clothing and other gear we need to pack.

Here in Australia we are in the opposite position - well into autumn and still in short-sleeved shirts, although the nights have been cooling quickly this week.

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Firenze

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I can recall arriving in Canada one time about this time of year. Coming from elsewherein the same hemisphere, it was as if the calendar had gone back a month. We'd left trees and hedges lush with green, and suddenly it was back to twigs and buds.

But OTOH, whereas spring/summer in Britain comes and goes, before deciding to be, on the whole, summery (or not,as the case may be), in Canada it was bang! lights, action and straight into summer.

Also we were in Ontario, and visiting countryside, which is a stupid idea, as the black fly are humongous in Spring.

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My parents would always go to Ontario for a couple of weeks at this time of year in order to enjoy their spring. The Atlantic coast does not have such a reliable springtime.

As far as British Columbia goes, the season does not determine the clothing you need. It can be lovely weather at sea level and yet you would need a warm coat, hat, and gloves at the higher elevations. Of course, it can be raining at any time so a jacket with a hood and and umbrella should be packed. Or wait to buy an umbrella as a souvenir of the trip!

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quote:
Originally posted by lily pad:
... The Atlantic coast does not have such a reliable springtime ...

From my observations since moving to Newfoundland 10 years ago it's not that it's unreliable, it's that it's short. Very short: one day (usually about the third Tuesday in May at about 2:30 in the afternoon) you realise that there's a greenish tinge in the room, and when you look outside the tree in the back garden is clothed in greenery, having been completely bare the day before.

The following day the temperature shoots up to about 20°C with a Humidex value of 30 where it'll remain (with the odd break for fog and icebergs) until mid-August. [Eek!]

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Spring!!!!

Forsythia, muscle cars, motorbikes, shorts, ice cream, patios.

For one brief day in Toronto, it has been spring!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
in Canada it was bang! lights, action and straight into summer.

Yup - we started last week with snow flurries and ended it at 20C for Friday's high. Capris, sandals and IceCaps abounded - and I've no doubt they will again later this week, after we dip to a high of 1 Freaking Degree on Tuesday. Welcome to parka-and-shorts season. [Disappointed]

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Here in foggy-but-not-really-cold Newfoundland I have (temporarily) discarded my socks, to the horror of my friends ("Good God, you've got your toes out! [Eek!] "). Well, the temperature was in double figures ... [Big Grin]

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HenryT

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Did some garden work today, and to my surprise, I found that the bottom of the compost is still frozen solid. I suppose compost is good insulation, but that good?

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quote:
Originally posted by Meg the Red:
Welcome to parka-and-shorts season. [Disappointed]

You said it. Roasting hot inside a vehicle; blasting cold wind directly from Satan's frozen arse once you step outside.

I hope I may share a thought I had today that made me smile. I imagined Ralph Klein in the afterlife, cooking and serving meals to homeless men in heaven's kitchen.

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Do the homeless men get to show up drunk, chuck money at Ralph and tell him to pull himself up by his bootstraps? [Biased]

[ 29. April 2013, 18:45: Message edited by: Meg the Red ]

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My dear Meg, you will be pleased to know that a Relief Column is on the way to you. The next Federal NDP Convention will be in Edmonton in 2015. [Big Grin]

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Gadzooks the weather is ridiculous batman!

+19 on Saturday, -4 this morning, and we've snowfall warnings of 10-15 cm (up to 6"). Why did I get the bicycle all ready to go?

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Because you'll need it the day after the snowfall, that's why!

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I'm counting on it, Pete!

(gazes longingly at Euphemia the Wonderbike)

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orfeo

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Hey folks,

Just to give you a bit of a warning I'm heading your way. Will be in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal over the very end of May/first couple of weeks in June. Will you have spring sorted out by then?

Also spending a few days in Vancouver during July.

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John Holding

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See shortly a new thread on Orfeo and the National Capital Region. Shipmates in TOronto, Vancouver and Montreal are warned that they'll have to do the same for him.

John

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