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Source: (consider it) Thread: The NZ/Australia thread 2013 [mk 28]
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Banner Lady - good luck with your dentistry. [Eek!]

JtC - drive carefully and have a good trip. [Smile]

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Chaos at Chez Banner this week as the house expands to fit in 4 more family members due for November visits. This means B4's belongings have been stacked in the entry. She's not happy, but there are 30 crates full, and she hasn't lived at home for over a year.

With B1 & her two children needing bridging accommodation over summer, TP is ramping up project management for the shed we desperately need. My challenge will be to keep my kid's stuff out of it so we can utilize it for our own needs. I'm not liking my chances.
[Confused]

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That would have been a bit close for comfort, Mr Curly, but all seems under control now - and no wind to get the flames going again.

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Can anyone recommend a good local Christian supplies place that sells good jewellery? Finding FD a decent cross to wear that isn't teensy or some sort of Goth horror is proving difficult. Most of the online shops are either too high church for Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle or are too right wing prosperity gospel for it either.

Most are too small if they are nice (I want something 6cm or a bit longer, without it looking like he is pretending he's a bishop [Smile] )

All suggestions welcome! Please PM me if more appropriate.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
That would have been a bit close for comfort, Mr Curly, but all seems under control now - and no wind to get the flames going again.

My brother's thoughts too when he heard of it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Can anyone recommend a good local Christian supplies place that sells good jewellery? Finding FD a decent cross to wear that isn't teensy or some sort of Goth horror is proving difficult. Most of the online shops are either too high church for Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle or are too right wing prosperity gospel for it either.

Most are too small if they are nice (I want something 6cm or a bit longer, without it looking like he is pretending he's a bishop [Smile] )

All suggestions welcome! Please PM me if more appropriate.

Immediately came to mind [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Can anyone recommend a good local Christian supplies place that sells good jewellery? Finding FD a decent cross to wear that isn't teensy or some sort of Goth horror is proving difficult. Most of the online shops are either too high church for Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle or are too right wing prosperity gospel for it either.

Most are too small if they are nice (I want something 6cm or a bit longer, without it looking like he is pretending he's a bishop [Smile] )

All suggestions welcome! Please PM me if more appropriate.

I have bought many through eBay.

[ 09. November 2013, 11:44: Message edited by: rexory ]

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I just went to a craft fair yesterday saw many attractive crosses in various styles.

Have you tried looking at craft fairs?

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How about something like this?

[Apologies to all for using this particular website.]

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Clarence
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Patdys, he'd love it [Snigger]

WW, funnily enough I was watching that same chap on the Pilgrimage programme on SBS (episode 1 for those who use SBS on demand). I think the thing that struck me the most was his cheerfulness.

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Bugger Christmas!

The Warehouse no longer sell the wee bowls I use to cook small Christmas puddings in. Alison Holst's crockpot recipe divides neatly into to of these - which in turn fit neatly into my crock pot. (Spotted some at a friend's place so he now has small ceramic bowls instead [Cool] )

I bought freezer, not oven bags to heat the alcohol and fruit in.

I turned on the temperature control, but not the 'bake' function when baking the first cake.

I had planned to do 3 cakes and 3 puds. Maybe I should just consume all the spirits and forget about the baking.

Think I'll take the afternoon off.

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As long as it's not cooking brandy, Huia. All will be well. Take the afternoon off, by all means. A nice G&T will sooth the nerves, so I'm told. [Angel]

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The brandy is some good quality stuff Dad was given for his work running the "Evergreens" - golf competition for those over 65 and is a very nice drop indeed, part of my inheritance which my brothers will share through the baking.

The day is definitely looking up - the cake survived, I found more oven bags and I'm off to afternoon tea later after I've prepared the pud, which will cook in the microwave overnight, leaving a Chrismassy smell throughout the house [Yipee]

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quote:
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As for Cusanus, I believe some of the Ozzies are in touch. He was mentioned as being met a few months back.

I had coffee with the good man in Melbourne about eight weeks back - in fine mettle

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Good to hear from you Zappa. Your installation seems to have gone well (and as there's no report otherwise, we assume it was painless).

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How much I hate the cold - especially when it goes from 30 one day to 12 the next. Brrrrrrrr. I feel like I have been living in a fridge for most of the year. It is very hard on a body, this weather.

Summer- it's only three weeks away but feels like it may never get here. I guess at least I have a fire and warm clothes to wear. Perhaps I shall pretend with the grandkids this is Narnia and it is always winter; or that their grandad is secretly of the Stark clan, and so winter follows him about.

BL. Not happy, and possibly hallucinating.

[Help]

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Weatherise... Here they are talking about freezing drizzle. Cold, wet.... But an event was cancelled today, so no driving out to nowhere in particular, on bad roads, on a day like this.

Hello, fire, and warm, cosy clothes.

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It's weather like this that makes me appreciate each evening my water bed and the doona - mind you, both the cat and the dog are o9f the same opinion.

Mind you, I conjoin with those who feel that 34 one day and 15 the next is not the sort of condition to get the body, mind and soul ready for the eventual heat of summer.

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Our Shipmate Dangerous Deacon has also been installed in the Top End deanery over this last weekend.The major changes for that diocese continue.
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Hoping against hope that there might be an answer to this. My friend is looking for a, preferably Anglican church in Sydney (they live in the inner west but prepared to travel) that has a children's program of some sort (doesn't have to be a huge one but does need to take children's ministry seriously) but that doesn't teach hierachical complementarianism and would not be so family oriented that she would feel uncomfortable to take her kids there without her husband as he isn't interested in attending church at all.
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... I hate the cold - especially when it goes from 30 one day to 12 the next ...

Now that's what I'd call a blessed relief. [Devil]

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My sister has been at Peelwood, northwest of Laggan, up towards Tuena, for a couple of months. In the last month most overnight temperatures have been below zero and one night was -6, wiping out tomato and fruit crops.

She was glad to go to Crookwell the other day where it was warmer. Crookwell and warmth are not two words I would usually put together.

[ 12. November 2013, 02:08: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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Good to hear from you Zappa. Your installation seems to have gone well (and as there's no report otherwise, we assume it was painless).

Relatively painless - and frenetic since! Now I'm off to The Volcanic Side™ for a Deans' Conference.

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quote:
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Our Shipmate Dangerous Deacon has also been installed in the Top End deanery over this last weekend.The major changes for that diocese continue.

And may I say I am very sad to have mistimed things so badly that I will not be working with him. A great appointment and very challenging times ahead. The registrar, too, has now resigned.

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quote:
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It's weather like this that makes me appreciate each evening my water bed and the doona - mind you, both the cat and the dog are o9f the same opinion.

Mind you, I conjoin with those who feel that 34 one day and 15 the next is not the sort of condition to get the body, mind and soul ready for the eventual heat of summer.

Decided not to get used to summer at all.... So, long service leave in north America instead, visiting family and friends. Can't wait until December 1! [Big Grin] (Until Feb 20)

At present, there will ne no replacement for me, so local folk, lay and retired ordained will fill in. Everyone feels ok about this, thankfully.

And so, I fill my days either soberly doing work, or being wildly excited.

Or shivering in the cold!

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... I hate the cold - especially when it goes from 30 one day to 12 the next ...

Now that's what I'd call a blessed relief. [Devil]
MIL has just arrived, so now I have TWO English people in the house telling me how lovely this cool weather is. To them anything over 25 is unbearable and time to put the fans on.
[Disappointed] I suppose I should be glad it suits them, but I'm just not that much of a Pollyanna.

The unseasonable late frosts have burnt off all the Canola crops 3 weeks before harvest time, so farmers across the Monaro are busy turning it into silage. The price of canola oil will no doubt be rising shortly. You heard it here first.

Rowen: sounds lovely, and you were always much better at winter than summer anyway....a talent I often wish I could possess.

[ 12. November 2013, 19:59: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]

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so farmers across the Monaro are busy turning it into silage
Aaah, but think of the healthy beef you will get if it is raised on that silage.

Lothlorien, who practised driving tractor by compacting a pit of silage.

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quote:
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Our Shipmate Dangerous Deacon has also been installed in the Top End deanery over this last weekend.The major changes for that diocese continue.

Thanks Barnabas! I am finally re-emerging from underneath a (virtual) mountain of e-mails and the more old fashioned hard copy stuff, and back onto the Ship. I must admit I am very sorry not to be working with Zappa, who of course has now gone onto greater things.

We have, sadly, lost our Bishop in the prisoner exchange with the Diocese of Newcastle and are indeed shortly to lose our Registrar who is going home to New Zappaland. The replacement of one these in very quick time is crucial, but we can wait for a Bishop!

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You have my sympathy, DD - our Electoral Synod meets tomorrow and Saturday to appoint a new Bishop, and we're hoping they'll keep their hands off the Dean because we don't want to lose him.

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Banner Lady
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I notice in appointments round these parts, that MM is now Musical Director of the Church With The Pond. Am thinking I might have to experience midnight mass there this Christmas. Should be a treat. [Smile]

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quote:
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I notice in appointments round these parts, that MM is now Musical Director of the Church With The Pond. Am thinking I might have to experience midnight mass there this Christmas. Should be a treat. [Smile]

Indeed. We are bidding farewell to MM, and to our organist, at All Trains in a couple of Sundays. Change, change, change. I must belong there now because, having been thinking about asking for a name badge, I was presented with one over coffee.

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Ooh - once you've got a Name Badge, you'll be asked to Do Things ... [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Ooh - once you've got a Name Badge, you'll be asked to Do Things ... [Big Grin]

Intercessions and sanctuary party so far, through my own volunteering. I can duck, although I did make the mistake of telling the treasurer that I have been a treasurer in the past...

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Hot off the press: Sarah MacNeill, formerly of All Trains, elected Bishop of Grafton.

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First woman diocesan in Oz then. Well done.

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... we're hoping they'll keep their hands off the Dean because we don't want to lose him.

They did, and we won't. [Yipee]

Congratulations too to your new lady bishop. [Smile]

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First woman diocesan in Oz then. Well done.

YaY! (What took you so long? [Biased] )

Huia

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Mini tornado at Hornsby Westfield and area nearby this afternoon. Trees down, cinema roof collapsed, cars and trucks overturned. Hornsby is the apex of the mainline and north shore line trains and from there trains go north. Everything is shut. A shipmate is in the area and at least I imagine he could be caught up in train problems. The Pacific Highway is reduced to one lane through Hornsby as trees are down.

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Huia, I agree, but at least we're there. On my count, that makes 1 diocesan and 3 assistant/area bishops. An Archbishop soon? In Sydney, women are still not being licensed as priests, but ++ Glenn has said publicly that he will license as a deacon a woman priested elsewhere, and what she may do in a parish is a matter for the rector and parish council to decide. That includes presiding. Not good that a woman cannot be properly recognised, but one day (probably not in my lifetime) that may occur.

And Lothlorien, Madame messaged me to say that the storm was nearby (about 3 km in a straight line) but that all was well at home. She and Dlet drove down the line a few suburbs to meet me for dinner, as the trains were a problem. That was a good idea, as there were bad delays. Just a freak storm, very intense and affected only a small area. Now home, reasonably dry. We shall see what the morning brings. I may drive in.

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Bloody Shakey Isles- it was mag 4.6 and sounded like a train roaring past the house. No damage -my wooden rainbow jig-saw is still standing and Georgie-Porgy is still sleeping.

Just a reninder I should renew my emergency supplies, especially water.

Huia

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Gee D, I think we have four women assistants - Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth, Canberra/Goulburn.

Great news for Grafton. Pity my own diocese did not have the courage to take the step earlier in the year.

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... In Sydney, women are still not being licensed as priests ...

Really? [Ultra confused]

And [Votive] for anyone affected by the earthquake.

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Yes, Piglet, really. Disgraceful but it certainly won't change tomorrow. Ballarat only passed an ordinance to permit priesting of women a couple of months ago, and as well as Sydney, I think there are a couple of others who won't.

And thanks Barnabas Aus, I had forgotten Brisbane.

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I sang in the choir at the first ordination of women priests in the British Isles, which took place in Belfast Cathedral in about 1990. As it was such a long time ago, it really hadn't occurred to me that there were still places that didn't.

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... Zappa, who of course has now gone onto greater things ...

That would be greater fog? Sigh. [Ultra confused]

Sorry we kidnapped the Registrar, though. [Snigger] Blame Kuruman.

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quote:
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I sang in the choir at the first ordination of women priests in the British Isles, which took place in Belfast Cathedral in about 1990. As it was such a long time ago, it really hadn't occurred to me that there were still places that didn't.

Again, alas yes there are. Most dioceses here have women priests - in some, close to half the stipendiary clergy are women (the proportion of retired clergy is fairly naturally skewed towards men) but not Sydney.

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I'm interested to note how many of the services reported by Mystery Worshippers are led by women clergy, in various countries and various denominations.

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In my own remote region, what with UCA, Anglican, and SA.... Many more women than men, in my feld of er em expertise!

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D. does some teaching at the local theological college; as most of the students are retired ladies, there's usually Great Rejoicing when a bloke enrols on the full-time M.Div. course.

IIRC when they were debating the issue in the Church of Ireland, a lot of places in the Irish Republic voted in favour of women priests because it was hard to fill the parishes; and a lot in the more "fundamental" areas of Northern Ireland voted in favour because "the Presbyterian church up the road has a lady minister, and she's lovely".

Not perhaps the best reasoning ...

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The good thing about the NI reasoning is that it recognises and accepts that there's nothing scary about a woman priest. But putting up with women because you can't get men……….

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