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The good thing about the NI reasoning is that it recognises and accepts that there's nothing scary about a woman priest. But putting up with women because you can't get men……….
I would jump at the "putting up with women because you can't get men..." reasoning compared to what we have in Sydney Anglican circles atm, which can be boiled down to you're not a Christian if you don't believe hierachical complementarianism is God's way and anything else is a sin. ![[Tear]](graemlins/tear.gif)
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... Zappa, who of course has now gone onto greater things ...
That would be greater fog? Sigh. ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
Sorry we kidnapped the Registrar, though. ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif) Blame Kuruman.
Not happy ![[Frown]](frown.gif) though there are very good personal reasons for our Registrar leaving. But it does mean we are trying to find a Registrar and Bishop at the same time.
And a well done to Grafton - an excellent choice. But it will be a tough gig - the Diocese is going through the ringers at the Royal Commission, and as usual the guilty bastards are long gone and we new chums have to pick up the pieces.
In my last parish it was the same; a paedophile had been active there thirty years ago and done tremendous damage. So many lives ruined.
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Spent last weekend in Caboolture for a wedding (my eldest nephew). Bit hot for me the first day but then rather nice.
The weather didn't register next to the family politics: I can't remember who said that a wedding was a day designed to offend as many people in as short a time as possible, but this one fitted the bill (take two sets of control freak parents, only one of which is paying the bills...). Fortunately, the crap didn't touch the young couple, and the ceremony itself was lovely (on the beach at Bribie Island).
I particularly enjoyed catching up with my nephews and their girlfriends. Four of the six are studying to become teachers, and they filled me in on the politics of education in Aussie at great length. I also got to see the mother of all computers that the bridegroom has been building himself.
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This morning I went out to get the paper at 6.45, found the back door of the car open and a pair of feet sticking out – there was a young man asleep face down on the back seat.
Sent for the police, who woke him up; I will never forget his horrified look when he saw us and realised he wasn't where he should be.
The police took him to his brother's place where he was staying and we had a very humble apology on the phone shortly after; he turned up by arrangement at 10 am with a gigantic bunch of flowers and a bucket with cleaning materials (though I think there was nothing worse than a bit of drool where his face had been.
Goodness knows how he'd directed his taxi at about 3 am – his brother lives a couple of kilometres away. He'd been geographically challenged, he thought, by the Wellington hills; he comes from a flat city.
He did a great job on the car and we parted cheerfully, he still apologising.
Who said nothing ever happens in our little cul–de-sac?
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Blimey, GG - I think you'd have lost me at "a pair of feet sticking out" ...
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Gee D
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Write it as a TV sketch. But he did know what he he had done and behaved well.
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GG, Live in the same street long enough, and interesting things happen eventually. We've been in the same location 30 years, on the corner of a T-section. In that time we've had a hot air balloon land outside our house (forgot to fill the spare gas canister, apparently); had a car miss the fact that it was a T-section rather than a through road and end up on the verandah of the house opposite the T; and had a brass band march down our normally quiet back-street playing rousing salvation songs. We also have a steady stream of Goths walking past because our street is a short cut between the local college and the nearest suburban shops; and occasionally a bewildered kangaroo is sighted bounding along the street looking for a way back to nearby scrubland.
I'd love to hear what interesting things have happened on the streets where other shippies live - though GG's story would take a bit to top!
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Lothlorien
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In the street where I lived for many years, a large tree suddenly keeled over and smashed a small car parked over the road. No rain, no wind, it just gave up. The tree blocked the road.
One morning I was looking out the window when a small, unregistered vehicle went past with a load of bricks for the building construction for the large girls' private school. School takes up the block but it was easier to carry bricks by road than through grounds.
It hit a bump and bricks went everywhere. Fortunately it was just before school drop off. I took some photos and the labourers in cart jumped out and started picking them up frantically. I emailed photos to council who were promptly on the site as the cart was totally unlicensed and not meant to be on public roads.
The original lane access to our house had a recessed gateway to our backyard. I looked out one afternoon some years ago to see a small bit of construction equipment parked in the recess, out of sight for anyone looking down lane. Council employee was having a liquid lunch just down the road at Croydon pub.
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Where I grew up we were on a dead end street which was the 'last' street on the edge of the suburb with paddocks beyond the end and a park with a creek on the other side from the houses. We had koalas, rosellas and lorikeets in the trees, blue wrens and willy wagtails in the shrubs and during summer the eastern grey kangaroos would come onto our front lawn to rest in the afternoon shade and drink from a water trough fed from a spring in the back garden. It was a fantastic house for whenever we had international friends around the place primarily because it saved paying for a trip to a wildlife park!
It was a little annoying at times though, despite our best efforts with netting the stupid parrots would get themselves stuck or eat so much they would be too fat to fly. The noise on a warm summer night from the sheep beyond the end of the street and horny koalas in the trees is hardly conducive to a restful night.
There were a few occasions when eucalyptus branches fell onto the fence at the end of the street and a small flock of sheep got to explore the strange world of suburbia, one was lucky to get out alive when it made the ill-advised decision to get stuck in mum's roses the day before we had a big family barbecue planned. The owner started taking a bit more care of his fence after the time the sheep escaped and we returned three of them to the paddock coloured purple after an encounter with a watering can and some food dye
The most exciting things that have happened on any of the streets/roads where I've lived since moving out of home has been a drug bust and a stage of the Tour Down Under.
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An interesting time at church yesterday. We had a christening and it turned out, although nothing was said, to be the son of a same sex male couple!! Only one of the couple took the vows but it was obvious who the other half was!! The son was well behaved and dressed rather dapper for a six month old.
A rather humourus line from the lovely old dear that did the prayers of the world... and dear Father Christmas is nearly upon us No pause or comma between father and Christmas was cause for a snigger or two.
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Well done Dennis! But ar they not both father?
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Car rented for the weekend! Yay! Long service leave..... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Gee D
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Prayers for your safe travelling Rowen, and for a time of refreshment in your break.
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... Long service leave.....
I always feel as if I need Long Service Leave after an ordination ... ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Huia
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... Long service leave.....
I always feel as if I need Long Service Leave after an ordination ...
I used to go to a church with a Vicar like that.
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Happy almost-Advent everyone!
On Friday it will ten year's since that most Shippy occasion when I was ordained as a deacon. I'm trying to remember who was there. I've got a set of pictures from the priest ordination, can't find a darned thing from the deacon one. I will have to go through my files...
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James the Confident
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Congrats jugs.
I'm home again after a round trip of 9,800km. A great trip and one I would recommend to anyone. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Gee D
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Prayers for you this Friday, Jugular, on your anniversary.
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DangerousDeacon
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
we are trying to find a Registrar and Bishop at the same time ...
... which is about 33% of the stipended positions in the diocese!
It appears we do have money for both! Now just wait for the rush of eager job applicants.
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Lothlorien
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Things are not wonderful here. My neatly ordered existence was turned upside down by the arrival in the middle of the night a week ago of #2 son, very traumatised and upset. With a plea to be allowed to stay for a while. The "while" now seems to be stretching out and I have heard facts I never wanted to know about.
#1 son needs another back operation, much more major than the first one. Massive pain levels again. Needs co-ordinating of three surgeons, anaesthetist, private hospital and insurance company. It could be next Monday, or two days before Christmas or not till February. He's still doing normal job at high govt level, mostly from home and is working at top level job he was seconded to through bushfires. Just in case there are more fires, as is likely. Again mostly from home.
I have a badly frozen shoulder and can hardly move left arm. Ultrasounds and x-rays for that today and lots of pain.
#3 son is moving house and his ex-partner is being narky.
Not exactly feeling like Christmas here at all.
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![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) Loth.
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Welease Woderwick
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Prayers and upholding Lothlorien
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Gee D
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Not good Lothlorien, esp coming a year or so after the problems with your other son.
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Galloping Granny
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Prayers for you, Loth, for strength and peace; and for those sons with all their troubles.
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Lothlorien
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Thank you all. I have been poked and pushed and pulled and contorted, all in the name of an ultrasound. Then technician disappeared to get x-rays to check and brought back a senior fellow who did it all again. My guess is that the joint is stuffed. It crunches and clicks and is painful and inflamed and movement is very limited.
I didn't wait for the report. Have GP appointment for Friday and a day wasn't going to make much difference. They will courier it to GP.
I could have gone by the unreliable bus around corner. (made the press a few weeks ago as one of the five worst bus routes in Sydney.)
Friend absolutely insisted on lunch first and then a ride to Imaging centre. He went shopping while I was in there and then brought me home again. Shopping revealed some Asian goodies for my dinner as he knew I would be sore. I am extremely grateful.
He doesn't live far away but the Centre was in middle of line between our places and he could have gone home. We had a cup of tea and talked for several hours.
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Hugs and prayers Loth, both for the pain thing and the sons thing!
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Lothlorien.
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Huia
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Thank goodness for friends!
Thinking of you Loth.
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Lothlorien
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Have just been told eldest son will have major back surgery early next week. Disc replacement and some fusion of spine as neurosurgeon is unwilling to introduce movement into an area which has not worked for three years.
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Lothlorien
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Found out ultrasound results on my shoulder today.
It is not frozen, it's stuffed and needs a replacement joint. Two tendons totally ripped across, another torn partially, severe osteoarthritis, ball joint is impacted into socket, much inflammation and... and..
It needs surgery but I haven't even begun that process yet and this close to Christmas and January nothing is likely to be easy or convenient.
"I told you I couldn't move it," with apologies to Spike Milligan.
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Gosh, Lothlorien, that sounds nasty. I didn't even know that they could replace shoulders - is it a similar procedure to replacing knees and hips? If it is, I've heard lots about how great the replacement joints are; my mother-in-law was leaping about like a hart (almost) after getting her knee done.
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Seriously buggeroovied. Can I give up my day job now? After barely lifting my finger to do a thing for two and a half years this is quite a (pleasant, mainly) shock.
Picking up your cross buddy?
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Loth, I can only hope that there will be friends to help you, that surgery will be soon and successful, that your family will find resolutions to their predicaments, and that 2014 will be Whole Lot Better.
(And I thought we had problems.)
Do you have state-funded type help available?
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Oh Loth, it never rains but it pours. Many prayers for you today and always. Love and hugs.
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Prayers indeed.
I write this from Ohio, USA... Finally got here, car troubles, buses, planes and all. It is wonderful to be here with my sister and her large extended family. The scenery with snow is so pretty, and to date, I have found the cold ok. Maybe I can handle it better now, after living in Victoria? The last few times I came over, I lived in Qld.
I love being on holiday!
I enjoy the shopping!
I adore the children in the family!
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If we get one can I send it over your way? White Christmases are all very well, but you have to shovel them, and then they turn into grey, muddy, snirty Januaries.
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Mind you, I have a revolting head cold.... Travel by plane? All those germs.....
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Banner Lady
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In recovery after MCing a Xmas Party for 3 hours. Not too difficult, because when you get 50 women together determined to have a good time, a good time is had. However I'm not the most organized of people at the best of times, so 3 hours was a big ask. I'm still looking for my brain....
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I've been searching for mine for years without so much as a glimmer of success.
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Lothlorien
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Have just been told eldest son will have major back surgery early next week. Disc replacement and some fusion of spine as neurosurgeon is unwilling to introduce movement into an area which has not worked for three years.
Everything aligned and son had the operation at 7:00 am this morning. Back in his room around 4:00 pm, doped up. However he looks very much better than after first operation two years ago. He doesn't want visitors. He directs what energies he has to recovery, not chit chat.
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Gee D
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Glad to hear the good news Lothlorien.
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Lothlorien
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Son is up and walking around the room and corridor supported by DIL. He's not impressed with the jelly and custard diet given him as stomach and gut were moved out to allow access.
Surgeon is very pleased with the whole thing and also says son will be taller than for the last few years. Disc was replaced with one of correct size and lowest part of spine was fused. The degenerated disc was allowing the spine to collapse. He's 6'5"
We are thankful things have gone well, and bar more bushfires over Christmas/January, there is time for recovery. He's been working on bushfire plans at Regentville to get stuff into place before it's needed.
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Huia
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Loth, fpr your son's continuing progress in healing.
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Banner Lady
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Loth: sounds ouchy.
After 2 weeks in lockdown because of a virulant gastric bug, I have finally been allowed back into my mother's nursing home. She was definitely beginning to go stir crazy, even with her limited mobility.
To their credit, they didn't lose anyone - even the 106 year old recovered okay. Some tough genes in that place.
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Gee D
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And a well done from us to your son, Lothlorien.
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