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Banner Lady
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So today I got to make a mitre for the new Bishop of Bathurst. Design specs included: no gold; no braid; no bling of any kind...where's the fun in THAT, I ask you? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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They are still here. Had enough of house guests.
mr curly
Undoubtedly, top of the page restores some sense of normality! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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For a moment there, rexory, I read that as "morality" - it had me very worried until I looked again!
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But is morality normal? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
Surely a question which may well spawn a thread in Purgatory would be:
Is normality moral?
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
So today I got to make a mitre for the new Bishop of Bathurst. Design specs included: no gold; no braid; no bling of any kind...where's the fun in THAT, I ask you?
Cool!
Can I get your autograph now while you're still approachable BL?
The Evensongs are back from a ten day family holiday on the Gold and Tweed Coasts. Had a lovely time and visited Brisbane for about two hours (never been before). Checked out St John's Cathedral. Impressive ceiling! Shame about the floor. Concrete blocks? Jaysus, Mary and Joseph. ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif) ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
Having now checked out Canberra, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide Anglican Cathedrals I can freely pronounce mine is by far the most beautiful. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Banner Lady
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Still think it's hard to top Goulburn's Gothic for a beautiful small cathedral.
New bishop of B is a lovely chap - not that I would wish the job on my worst enemy. It's a difficult brief to be taking up at the age of 62. I hope his blood pressure's good!
Today I am de-velcroing his cope. When you become so elevated, Evensong, that you need a cope, do NOT fasten the thing with velcro, snaps, buttons or ties. That way lies disaster. The first two are too noisy when robing or disrobing in a quiet church setting; and the last two are way too fiddly, and I've seen some less than solemn pauses while wrestling with the haberdashery takes place.
I offer this priceless knowledge gratis. You may kiss my hand later.
Bl. Funny hat maker and font of useless facts.
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How, then, are they to held on, BL? I have a cope for special occasions, but it is snap-fastened.
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Banner Lady
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Trouser slides or industrial strength hook & eyes work better if the cope has a material crossbar on the chest; if it is made more like a cloak then an ornate cloak clasp ( usually large shank buttons with a chain loop, or an antique belt clasp, which is essentially a glorified trouser slide) is used.
These are quiet and secure. Just like good churchmanship.
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Both my gold and my green copes have a morse (hope I spelt that correctly) which connected via what looks like very tough hooks and eyes; while the purple, white and red ones have more the somewhat more common chain and clasp closure.
Banner Lady - ru making the new bish a matching cope as well? Wondering whether something connoting the dioceses rural and outback nature would look right - browns, yellows, some hints of green etc??? Just offering some food for your thoughts.
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Idly ponders how Superman did it
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Originally posted by Evensong:
Idly ponders how Superman did it
Indeed. I have enough trouble figuring out FD's alb.
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.
Start swimming!
And Geelong which is close to Melbourne!
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Banner Lady
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EL: The cope (that his wife made for him when he became archdeacon) is cream with a startling ethnic fabric border in black, brown, cream and white. It has a hood lined in the same Fijian print fabric. He has some connections to ministry in the Pacific. I am shortening the cope a little, because it has dropped, and have put on new fastenings. The bespoke mitre is made from the same materials, and I have given his wife a lesson in how to make pointy hats so she can make any future ones needed.
When I asked if he was having a crozier made, he told me that he was simply going to use his favourite walking staff. This was given to him by some former parishioners when he was leaving the UK, and he has walked across Spain and England using it. It is a proper hazelwood shepherd's staff with a carved head. When it broke on one plane trip he found a "stick maker" at a medieval fair who could put a new stave to it; so it obviously means a great deal to him. I should think that will go down well in the country diocese.
So when you see the pics of him after his installation in three weeks time you will have all the inside goss.
BL. Purveyor of tatty stuff. Just don't let on to the purists in Eccles who would howl with laughter at all of the above.
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.
Start swimming!
And Geelong which is close to Melbourne!
Comet's coming? And to to ALL of Australia, best in the west too?? Awesome!. Fatted calf on the BBQ now. Will that be just the one, or four? What time at the airport? (I can make any time on Wednesdays).
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
So today I got to make a mitre for the new Bishop of Bathurst. Design specs included: no gold; no braid; no bling of any kind...where's the fun in THAT, I ask you?
Sounds a bit plain... I can lend you some Sunday School kids, they're very good at decorating! Glue and those little stick-on diamantes are the favourites
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Welease Woderwick
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Altar frontals here are often sequined butI have never [yet] seen a sequined mitre - perhaps the time has come!
eta: Please note that NOT posting this idea in Eccles is a deliberate choice!
[ 14. January 2013, 03:09: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
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Originally posted by AdamPater:
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.
Start swimming!
And Geelong which is close to Melbourne!
Comet's coming? And to to ALL of Australia, best in the west too?? Awesome!. Fatted calf on the BBQ now. Will that be just the one, or four? What time at the airport? (I can make any time on Wednesdays).
I wish! you know I'll call you, AP. I've already figured out that when I visit I'll have to criss cross the continent to visit everyone I need to.
Don't worry, James, Victoria is already on the list. as is Perth, Brisbane, Canberra, Byron Bay, Wagga, and of course Darwin 'cause I can't wait to harass Zappa and Kuru.
either I'm going to spend a lot of time in flight or on trains. or hitching - do you guys still do hitching? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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They do a nice line in lavender buses!
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oops, sorry.
And Adelaide.
crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.
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Banner Lady
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Glad Canberra is on your list.
Forget about renting a car - you need one of these.
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oops, sorry.
And Adelaide.
crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.
There should be a sort of mass-balance-mean arrangement.
So we all get to meet in Coober Pedy.
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I can't do underground.
Totally claustrophobic. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
No doubt I was killed in a collapsed mineshaft in a previous life.
Oh. And fire. Fire's no good either.
No doubt I was burnt at the stake in a previous life.
Oh. Wait. We Christians don't believe in previous lives do we?
Damn.
Back to the drawing board.
How bout Perth?
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It is with a large amount of relief that I can report that the last of the houseguests have left Chez Curly.
No more Kochy in the morning and no more No Deal in the afternoon, no more grumpy old woman constant soundtrack and no more of Rupert's personal newsletter cluttering up the coffee table.
The year starts tomorrow.
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Ditto from me, Mr Curly!
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oops, sorry.
And Adelaide.
crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.
Australia is about the same size as the US. You really don't want to drive that far.
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Between 5 and 11 today, I will be team leader, chaplaincy, at the Sale Evac Centre... Working with East Gippsland bush fire victims...
My town is safe, thank God.
Prayers valued.
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I should think that will go down well in the country diocese.
I should think that will go down well with a nearly-bankrupt diocese, whose previous bishop was straight out of a Wipples catalogue.
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I'm back - so we had a wee earthquake to celebrate, just so I'd know I was home. Still the weather is better than Wellington was and Georgie-Porgy is far friendlier than my brother's cats.
I've been hearing about the bushfires and thinking of everyone here, but was unable to get online to check.
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![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) For Rowen and all the people working to fight bushfires and to support people evacuated and/or whose homes and livelihoods have been lost.
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Hotteest day on record for us here in Sydney - 45.8 deg C.
Searing hot, humidity down to a contact-lens curling 15%.
Cool change now here.
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Banner Lady
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Originally posted by jugular:
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I should think that will go down well in the country diocese.
I should think that will go down well with a nearly-bankrupt diocese, whose previous bishop was straight out of a Wipples catalogue.
What do you mean "nearly"?
Anyway, I've discovered I can make a simple mitre for under $20. Materials only, you understand.
I am the friend of broke bishoprics.
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I was team leader, chaplaincy, at the Sale Evacuation Centre between 5 and 11 last night. Then I slept there, and have just got home... Nap needed.
I may be needed tomorrow... Depends on how things go today
The most difficult tasks were talking with children, and relating to those who lost the lot.
My team were brilliant. They worked hard.
I honour the Red Cross, who are fabulous, and the Firies... My heroes.
Tanks for your prayers, guys. Please continue.
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Banner Lady
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We are turning Shrove Tuesday into an ecumenical fundraiser for the Bushfire Appeal up at the town with the Big House. I hope other churches take the opportunity to toss a few pancakes and raise some dough too.
![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif) Rowen. And the firies are my heroes too. They are amazing volunteers.
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It has been decided that tomorrow, at the Evac Centre, to slow things down a little, given today's fair weather. So, they will use local folk as chaplains, leaving us to sleep in, in beds up to 2 hrs away from Sale.
Yay.
A day off.
My service tomorrow will be taken by a lay person. Church Council thought I might be a little tired this weekend.
I am.
Firs are still burning. Bad news.
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Take care and go well, Rowan. Lots of prayers coming from here - my brother is one of the volunteer fireies in Northern NSW. Thank you for the updates from your area.
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Sleep well Rowen
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the icon is possible a little insensitive for fire prayers, but hey, the thought is there.
I have just spent a morning riding in a group ride with friends. And for ninety plus minutes, I was lost in the speed, the ease and the pure enjoyment. All of life's complications went. I love endorphins. It was a great ride, the whole four hours was fun, but I really needed that ninety minutes.
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Patyds i have just read a fascinating article entitled The Cycle Path To Happiness by Simom Usbourne about the effects of biking. They put a Dutch man with Parkinsons so debilitating that he could barely walk down the corridoor of the facility where he was being cared for, on a bike and he cycled a loop around some buildings in a carpark without any trouble.
He also summarised some studies on the efffects of cycling on the brain. If I didn't have a bike already I would have gone out and bought one.
Rowen I hope you had a good rest. Prayers flying across the Tasman for all affected.
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Evenson 1 has achieved an incredible ATAR ranking and is to study Molecular Biology and Biochemistry at UWA.
Are the job prospects better than "Do you want fries with that?"
Here's to hoping.
Boy do I feel old. Thirty eight and a kid at Uni.
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Evenson 1 has achieved an incredible ATAR ranking and is to study Molecular Biology and Biochemistry at UWA.
Are the job prospects better than "Do you want fries with that?"
Here's to hoping.
Boy do I feel old. Thirty eight and a kid at Uni.
Thirty eight and a kid doing you proud. Congratulations.
Ain't life funny: I had my first kid at thirty eight, and now she's 42. And a terrific person, like her younger brother.
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Mr Curly, how are you feeling without the house guests? Better I hope. I'm with you, I don't like house guests and I don't like being one.
Prayers (with or without as appropriate) for those affected by bushfire and those fighting them. When Sydney was affected by those terrible fires in about 1993 there was a service of thanksgiving in St Andrew's Cathedral at the end of that Summer for the volunteer fire fighters. I know such things are now frowned upon at the Rain Shelter™, but surely there should be some public recognition of these brave and selfless people. Rowen, prayers for you and all the other chaplains and helpers that help to pick up the pieces.
Had a lovely morning with Cryptogirl at the Nicholson Museum last Friday. We went to see the Lego Colosseum but of course all the other ancient stuff was fascinating. Came out to the car thermometer showing 47 degrees - I thought it was broken, but no...
Can't claim an 18yo starting uni, but do have an 11 going on 12yo starting high school. This time next week we'll be in full-blown apprehension ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Mr Curly, how are you feeling without the house guests? Better I hope. I'm with you, I don't like house guests and I don't like being one.:
I've been feeling much better. Have had a few aches today, but its a bit of mind over matter in some ways. Believe it or not, its just about 6 months since the heart attack, hoping I've reached a new plateau. Now only getting stressed about teenagers and not getting enough paid work! Plenty on horizon, but it's slow to start for the year.
Been writing today, rewriting a novel I'll end up coauthoring with the guy I wrote the last novel with. I'm still not making much progress with new work, but good to be taking something forward. Aiming to do some recording for an audiobook as soon as kids are back at school. But making some new stories at speed will mean I've achieved another phase in recovery.
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Having made arrangements to go off and meet with emergency chaplaincy services in sthn NSW, which needs an overnighter in Jindabyne, I have just turned down a shift tomorrow in Omeo, Nth Alps, Vic. An Evacauation Centre opens today.
Time for prayers again.
Sadly
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You are getting about a bit, Rowen!
Can you believe you ever used to stay in one city in ministry?
You are certainly racking up the k's this year.
I. meanwhile, for my sins, have been butt-glued to the computer chair trying to sort out prison ministry secretarial issues.
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If I was made for filing I would have been harder, squarer and with lots more drawers. *sigh* muttermuttermutter....
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