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Source: (consider it) Thread: The Football Thread 2013
Og, King of Bashan

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Dempsey to Spurs. Replacing van der Vaart and Mordic is going to be tough, but getting an attacking force like Dempsey is a step in the right direction.

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So much for his wish to play Champions' League football. Tee hee.

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Liverpool paying the bills it seems.

I get the strong feeling Suarez is gone this time next season. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, as he can't seem to score consistently.

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quote:
Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
Dempsey to Spurs. Replacing van der Vaart and Mordic is going to be tough, but getting an attacking force like Dempsey is a step in the right direction.

He can score goals, like Adebayor and Defoe but without Modric and van der Vaart who will provide the creativity in the centre? Spurs' failure to sign Moutinho could haunt them.

I hope some of Everton's signings come good, there have been a few interesting ones and that the fans show some patience with them as we need some new blood, especially between the sticks where Tim Howard has been 'disappointed with himself' too often.

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Well, I just hope today's Spurs match has a less ignominious end to it than the last one! Losing Modric is very bad; I even had a pupil once who had the longest head of hair of any boy in the class; I compared him to Modric. Luca did not make many goals but he is an excellent team player and set up many for the strikers.

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We used to have a Ship of Fools fantasy football league. Is anyone interested if I set one up for this season?

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quote:
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We used to have a Ship of Fools fantasy football league. Is anyone interested if I set one up for this season?

Sounds fun to me!

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Okay. The number you have to enter to sign up is

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I've said to only start scoring from Gameweek 4, so if you don't yet have a team you shouldn't be at a disadvantage.

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Oh, and Gameweek 4 starts after the international break on September 15th, so you have a couple of weeks to organize. [Smile]

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Watched Liverpool vs. Arsenal.


And then read 4 different articles on the match.

2 think Liverpool are awful

2 think Liverpool did OK all things considered and are a work n progress

All grudgingly accept that Arsenal are back in business.

I swear UK sports media have ADD.

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quote:
Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
Watched Liverpool vs. Arsenal.


And then read 4 different articles on the match.

2 think Liverpool are awful

2 think Liverpool did OK all things considered and are a work n progress

All grudgingly accept that Arsenal are back in business.

I swear UK sports media have ADD.

Two journalists still think sunset coincides with Kenny Dalglish sitting down, and that Brendan Rodgers isn't 'big enough' for the club.

Two others like Brendan Rodgers and the football he wants to play.

All four are convinced that Liverpool's owners know sod all about football, especially Premiership football.

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I am dreading seeing my colleague at school who is a hard-core Arsenal fan. This the worst start I've seen for my side, Spurs, since I became a supporter at the beginning of this century!

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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I am dreading seeing my colleague at school who is a hard-core Arsenal fan. This the worst start I've seen for my side, Spurs, since I became a supporter at the beginning of this century!

Weren't you worse a few years ago before Redknapp took over? You were 17th or something almost half way through the season...

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quote:
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Okay. The number you have to enter to sign up is

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On which site?

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It's the FA's one here.

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"Hack writer tries to distance himself from the damage he caused."

If you ever wondered what 'crocodile tears' were, this is a fine example.

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Any thoughts on England's stroll in the park yesterday evening?

The only thing that stood out to me was how much of a chav Tom Cleverley is. So it must have been a fascinating game.

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quote:
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Any thoughts on England's stroll in the park yesterday evening?

The only thing that stood out to me was how much of a chav Tom Cleverley is. So it must have been a fascinating game.

A nice practice and the early penalty helped. Would England have been any better with Rooney?

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Englands match with Ukraine should give us a better
insight into their chances.
But is anybody thinking they have a chance of going
far in the comp.

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quote:
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Englands match with Ukraine should give us a better
insight into their chances.
But is anybody thinking they have a chance of going
far in the comp.

We'll qualify, get out of the group and get knocked out at the quarter-final stage in a penalty shoot-out.

I don't think bookies are taking bets on that.

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I certainly would not bet on any other outcome than the one you stated
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom Day:
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I am dreading seeing my colleague at school who is a hard-core Arsenal fan. This the worst start I've seen for my side, Spurs, since I became a supporter at the beginning of this century!

Weren't you worse a few years ago before Redknapp took over? You were 17th or something almost half way through the season...
I do not remember ever being that close to relegation, unless it was only for a week. I have been a Spurs supporter since around the year 2000: I remember getting baby clothes for my nephew at Christmas and he has just turned 13...

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A quick glance at wikipedia shows that Rednapp took over in 2008, and that in the 2007-8 season Spurs finished 11th.

Meanwhile, club managers everywhere have their fingers AND toes crossed as another round of World Cup qualifying matches take place. England are playing Ukraine at Wembley: any predictions?

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I too thought Spurs were in trouble when 'Arry tok over. Here's Wikipedia again (in the Harry Redknapp pages):

"In October 2008, following the sacking of Juande Ramos by Tottenham Hotspur, the club announced that Redknapp had agreed to take over as the new manager at Spurs. Tottenham paid £5 million in compensation to Portsmouth for letting Redknapp go. Spurs had secured only two points from the first eight games of the season prior to Redknapp's arrival and lay bottom of the league, but in his first two weeks in charge he took the club out of the relegation zone, winning ten out of the twelve points available with wins against Bolton Wanderers, Liverpool and Manchester City and a remarkable 4–4 draw against North London rivals Arsenal."

Tom Day was wrong. Spurs were not 17th, they were rock bottom! Two points from eight? Even Everton do better than that!

ps. England to scrape a win tonight.

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Any comments on England? I watched the game on a crappy internet feed with Ukrainian commentary which was actually quite a fun experience because it meant that I had to really watch the game in order to follow the detail. I thought 1-1 was a fair reflection of the game - Ukraine defended well and deserved a point, but England didn't merit any more than that because their attacking was rather toothless.

But most interestingly, Uncle Roy seems to be making a concerted effort to change his stereotyped style of play: Very few long balls and centre halves trying to pass out from the back. It will clearly take some more work to get it right!

Meanwhile, in other news, Anton Ferdinand has made it known that he will not shake the hand of either John Terry or Ashley Cole should they play at Loftus Road tomorrow. Obviously I'm somewhat partial in this matter so I won't delve into the soap opera part of the story, but I do wonder when the FA will either get rid of the handshakes altogether, or crack heads and get all the players in line.

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quote:
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Any comments on England? I watched the game on a crappy internet feed with Ukrainian commentary which was actually quite a fun experience because it meant that I had to really watch the game in order to follow the detail. I thought 1-1 was a fair reflection of the game - Ukraine defended well and deserved a point, but England didn't merit any more than that because their attacking was rather toothless.

But most interestingly, Uncle Roy seems to be making a concerted effort to change his stereotyped style of play: Very few long balls and centre halves trying to pass out from the back. It will clearly take some more work to get it right!

I thought Ukraine were more skilful, especially early on. If James Milner was really England's best player (as I have heard) then we were fortunate indeed.
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Meanwhile, in other news, Anton Ferdinand has made it known that he will not shake the hand of either John Terry or Ashley Cole should they play at Loftus Road tomorrow. Obviously I'm somewhat partial in this matter so I won't delve into the soap opera part of the story, but I do wonder when the FA will either get rid of the handshakes altogether, or crack heads and get all the players in line.

As you suggest, the FA should stop this charade. It would send a better message to the fans if the players did so after the game.

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I watched two friendly games of South Africa last week: against Brazil (away), and against Mozambique (at home).

The first game showed that in spite of their win, the Brazilian squad definitely still has a lot of work to do before 2014. The match against Mozambique was plain boring.

Although I didn't watch the Holland games against Turkey and Hungary, I'm quite pleased with the results [Smile]

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James Milner was England's best player?! Who said that? I thought he was awful. Not quite as bad as Tom Cleverly, but pretty terrible. I thought Baines, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gerrard, Lampard, Hart, Jagielka, and Lescott all had reasonable evenings. Dafoe was never allowed to get into the game because we couldn't get the ball anywhere near him, and Johnson's second half performance was a distinct improvement on his showing in the first 45 minutes. And frankly reasonable, workman-like play from many players who are not first choice will probably be enough to see us squeak through qualification. But it will be interesting to find out if we have another gear when Rooney, Cole, Carroll, and the rest are fit again.

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And it looks like Canada is almost out of it for 2014 already. Not quite as fast as 4 years ago, but darn close.

If you don't win at home, you don't go through.

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All will be well, or at least on the mend, if Spurs win today... Otherwise, we may not have the right manager but just a bumbling incompetent passing through!

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Oh no Sir K, while I'm not AVB's biggest fan, you have to give him more than four games before you talk about his successor.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
All will be well, or at least on the mend, if Spurs win today... Otherwise, we may not have the right manager but just a bumbling incompetent passing through!

Well, there you go. A good 3-1 win, although you should be worried about conceding right at the end...

Bit disappointed that Charlton lost to Crystal palace, but think we'll prob end up mid table anyway.

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I watched most of the Reading v Spurs game today. Reading had a really dominant spell for 15 minutes or so after half time, but were unable to force a goal. If they had (and that would have made the score line 1-1 at the time) I think the rest of the game could have been different.

But credit to Spurs: they defended well enough, showed intermittent fluidity as they attacked (two of the goals were peaches) and Dembele looks like a monster. Jury's still out on AVB though.

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Everton v Newcastle was quite an occasion. First there was the pre-game tribute to the Hillsborough families, then a great game marred only by some lousy officiating. Then again, I don't think goalline technology will resolve all situations.

It's bad enough when you lose one goal through a refereeing error but when it happens twice you get paranoid, especially as we don't score buckets of goals. David Moyes can take a lot of credit for not over-reacting - I think many managers would end up with a touchline ban after that, but dignity isn't points.

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Is it just me, or do the officials seem to be having trouble getting back into the swing of things this season? I think most clubs have got some legitimate gripe or another already.

In this instance, Moyes is right to be circumspect - the bad officiating hurt Newcastle as well, most obviously when advantage was not played for a foul on Ben Arfa as he broke from the 'not over the line' goal. But for the hour or so that I saw of it, it was a cracking game: proper frenetic Premiership football.

Now onto the Champions' League, where I'm sure we'll see a totally different style of play.

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Last weekend my team, playing a home game, managed to lose 3–0, even after one of the opponents' players had been sent off.

[brick wall]

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Off to Millwall v Cardiff soon. Last season's fixture one of the Cardiff supporters was so carried away by the exuberance of the occasion that he fell off the top tier of the stands. Not tonight I think...

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When Madrid lost to Munich Mourinho looked strangely tired, and the team seemed without hunger. Both appeared to be hungry this evening, and I wonder if that game today will be their Olympiakos. Long way to go, though.

I like that Toure.

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Yaya or Kole? [Biased]

Yeah, he's a beast.

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Oh no Sir K, while I'm not AVB's biggest fan, you have to give him more than four games before you talk about his successor.

He finally got the team up to speed last weekend and put us in the top ten. I hope they continue at full speed ahead. Looking forward to Sunday's match against Rangers. I am pleased with AVB now. Wonder when the new keeper will play.

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SPURS beat Man U at Old Trafford on Saturday!

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Yeah, and they deserved it. Cracking game too - especially the first half of the second half, if you get me.

I think Spurs fans are organizing on open-top bus parade for Wednesday night. [Biased]

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LeRoc

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I saw Flamengo x Fluminense (the famous Fla-Flu classic) yesterday. In Brazil, I'm a Flamengo supporter. In the last five minutes, while frantically looking for an equalizer, Flamengo managed to miss a penalty and have a goal cancelled by the ref [brick wall]

Meanwhile, the team I support in Holland, FC Groningen, did much better: they scored the winning goal after 93 minutes and 50 seconds!

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Imaginary Friend

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QPHahaha!

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Jonah the Whale

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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
SPURS beat Man U at Old Trafford on Saturday!

You have to feel sorry for Fergie though, only being allowed three minutes of injury time. Well maybe not.
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
SPURS beat Man U at Old Trafford on Saturday!

You have to feel sorry for Fergie though, only being allowed three minutes of injury time. Well maybe not.
He must be well pissed off, having paid for at least twice that. [Two face]

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Imaginary Friend

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I don't think he pays for anything - it's his by divine right!

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"We had a good team on paper. Unfortunately, the game was played on grass."
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Sir Kevin
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'Spurs also had a good result today which bodes well for the rest of the season. I missed seeing the match on television as I was busy with Formula One...

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Imaginary Friend

Real to you
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I hate international breaks. [Frown]

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
I hate international breaks. [Frown]

Youngest son (a Spurs fan) was mooching around the house yesterday saying the same thing. I found some MLS but he reckoned his Monday night seven-a-side is better.

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