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Sir Kevin
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Southampton 1-2 QPR
Redknapp and his lads have done it again. I'm in two minds whether he can save them from relegation. It could end up being too little too late, but with Harry's reputation you just never know. If they can pull it off, then it's a job well done. QPR are 5 points away from being out of the bottom three at present.
Looking at the teams they will be up against in the next four weeks (Sunderland at home this Saturday) I think they have a chance. Interesting times ahead!
I'm wondering whether to put a wager on it.... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
i'm no longer a BIG fan of Happy Harry, but I wish him well: as good as he is, the Dutchman is even better! I predict Spurs will be number one again in my lifetime, but then I plan to live to be over 90 and I'm writing my first novel to prove it!
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Sorry for being dense, but who is "the Dutchman" in that context?
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Sorry for being dense, but who is "the Dutchman" in that context?
Many years ago part of the Netherlands was a Spanish colony. Spain & Portugal are nearly the same, hence "The Dutchman". Well, possibly.
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Or Jol?
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Spurs have this AVB as manager instead?
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Niiiiice!
Or, perhaps, this AVB?
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How nice that Mr. Bale has honoured his boss.
Pity about the yellow card for diving yesterday...
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You didn't answer the question, Sir K. Were you referring to Villas Boas? Because he's Portuguese, not Dutch.
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Niiiiice!
Or, perhaps, this AVB?
But, IF, that AVB is neither Dutch nor a man. So, with all due respect, logic says your answer makes no sense.
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That was dire. Four mad minutes and we're out of the FA Cup, courtesy of Wigan, at home!
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Mark Betts
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Sat Mar 2:
Southampton 1-2 QPR
Redknapp and his lads have done it again. I'm in two minds whether he can save them from relegation. It could end up being too little too late, but with Harry's reputation you just never know. If they can pull it off, then it's a job well done. QPR are 5 points away from being out of the bottom three at present.
Looking at the teams they will be up against in the next four weeks (Sunderland at home this Saturday) I think they have a chance. Interesting times ahead!
I'm wondering whether to put a wager on it....
i'm no longer a BIG fan of Happy Harry, but I wish him well...
Sat Mar 9:
QPR 3-1 Sunderland
It looks like my wager might pay off, if things carry on like this!
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
That was dire. Four mad minutes and we're out of the FA Cup, courtesy of Wigan, at home!
I thought of you as I watched it. Worse than those four minutes (I thought) was the fact that they didn't look remotely like getting back into the game in the second half.
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There'll be some headaches in Dingwall tomorrow. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
That was dire. Four mad minutes and we're out of the FA Cup, courtesy of Wigan, at home!
I thought of you as I watched it. Worse than those four minutes (I thought) was the fact that they didn't look remotely like getting back into the game in the second half.
Quite. Four mad minutes and 86+ tedious, uninspired ones. We wuz lucky to get nil.
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Well. Those were some matches today.
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Wow, piglet, that's quite a result! Congratulations.
In other news, Chelsea came back from two goals down at Old Trafford to force a replay against United, and Spurs lost. Good Sunday!
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It's not that I'm really a Ross County supporter, although I lived in Sutherland (the next county up) when I was a very little piglet, and have a soft spot for that part of the country. I was born in Inverness and I like to see Caley Thistle do well.
And I love it when the little guy stuffs the unstuffable. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Not a good result for Spurs on Sunday: Liverpool 3, Tottenham 2. Our keeper was having an off day.
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@#$% !!! Why the hell did Spurs bother to show up without Gareth Bale?! Adenbayor strove mightily, but we needed four more of him!
Bloody Hell! ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Bale was suspended for receiving too many yellow cards in previous games. AVB didn't have a choice on that one.
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Right...
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How good it is to get back to a competition that matters, against a top team desperate for points and beat them. Last week, Everton were awful against Wigan, this week magnificent against Man City. Everyone played their hearts out, especially when we were down to ten men.
Robert Mancini - you are Officially Clueless. If you come to Goodison Park, Baines and Pienaar will attack down the left. Why do you decide to play wing-backs, especially wing-backs who can't tackle, against a genuine wide threat?
Numpty. Thanks for the points anyway.
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Yeah, it's one thing to be proactive and try and shape the game to your own strengths (which is what I assume Mancini was trying to do), but you have to pick your time, and playing against the second-best left back in England is probably not the right occasion.
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It's Sunderland 1 - 1 Norwich at the Stadium of Light, at HT.
Wesley Hoolahan got the first in for Norwich in 25 minutes. Sunderland's was from a penalty - I think it was due to a handball from Bassong. 2nd half just beginning...
COME ON YELLOWS!!
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I forgot to mention our goalie Mark Bunn got a red card just after the first goal - but still we hung on, even when down to 10 men - well done lads.
FT Sunderland 1 - 1 Norwich
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West Ham fan here. Watching the Chelsea game. Allardyce ain't got a clue. He's got no game plan. Hit and hope.
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West Ham fan here. Watching the Chelsea game. Allardyce ain't got a clue. He's got no game plan. Hit and hope.
I'm an old git who can remember Sam Allardyce as a player. He hasn't changed much - still all effort and sod all talent.
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West Ham fan here. Watching the Chelsea game. Allardyce ain't got a clue. He's got no game plan. Hit and hope.
I'm an old git who can remember Sam Allardyce as a player. He hasn't changed much - still all effort and sod all talent.
Oh gawd! He ain't changed much. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Change the tactics or change the manager. Big fat Sam ain't gonna change the tactics (getting him to admit his mistakes is like trying to get blood out of a stone). Bring in Di Canio. At the very least it would be colourful.
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I was stuck in a conference so I wasn't able to see the game, but it sounds like the West Ham defenders didn't know how to deal with the Eden Hazard shaped blur that came past them this afternoon. Can you explain to me why Allerdyce took Diame off? That guy was the match winner in the fixture at the Boleyn Ground.
And as for the other London derby today, thank you Fulham!
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When it comes to London Derbies, Millwall didn;t do so badly either Along with getting on to the TV twice (which will pay more weeks of the wage bill than it would for most 2nd-tier sides, never mind the Prem clubs) and getting to the FA cup semi-final.
And to cap a lovely weekend for South London football, all the stereotyped Milwall fans most hated rivals - Leeds, Palace, and above all Wet Spam - got mullahed. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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So, the Premiership is back today after its two week hiatus for World Cup qualification games. Swansea v Tottenham and Man City v Newcastle seem to be the ties of the weekend. I'll be hoping the Welshmen and the Toon get results.
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Not watched the second half of the 'Spurs match, but confidence is high after two goals in the first 20 minutes!
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Sunderland sack O'Neill, hire Paulo Di Canio, and lose David Milliband from their board in the process. What on earth are they thinking on Weirside?
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Well, result of the weekend was surely the mighty Southampton beating the champions of Europe! Up to the dizzy heights of 12th place in the Premier League and surely safe from relegation now. (Famous last words ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) )
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Yeah - awful weekend for us.
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Although our replay against United today made things feel better.
Rio, what's the score?
Rio, Rio, what's the score?
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Ha ha, I love football crowd banter!
I was at the Saints-Chelsea FA Cup game back in January (1-5, ouch...) and there were several choruses of 'One-nil and you effed it up' from your lot, Imaginary Friend. Not exactly complicated, I realise, but very cutting.
Also from a Southampton FA Cup defeat a few years ago, came 'Oh when the saints, oh when the saints, oh when the saints go sneaking out' as the Southampton fans left early. Again, very cutting!
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My 'Spurs came through and are back in third!
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So, any thoughts on Di Canio's appointment to Sunderland?
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Up the Owls!!
<ahem>Sorry. Couldn't resist saying that. Those three points may prove very useful. (And of course beating Millwall...)
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So, any thoughts on Di Canio's appointment to Sunderland?
Don't know. I'd have preferred it if he was at West Ham. I don't like Allardyce.
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I don't think anyone likes Allardyce. Did you see the cut he was sporting above his right eye this weekend? Looked nasty.
But more seriously, I'm having a hard time coming to a firm opinion on whether or not his alleged politics should matter. Even if he thinks all the things he is accused of thinking (and I should point out that he denies a lot of it), I'm yet to be convinced that this should stop him from holding the job. Certainly, only a very few people cared when he was the boss at Swindon. But, Ad Orientem, you seem to be suggesting that you'd take him at West Ham, indicating that you don't think his alleged politics are a deal-breaker?
basso - your post prompted me to go and look at the Championship table. It looks on the face of it like your season is kinda over. Not worried about relegation, unlikely to make the playoffs. But that said, any day that Millwall lose is a good day. (I soooo hope we get to play them at Wembley in the cup final. That would be epic.)
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basso - your post prompted me to go and look at the Championship table. It looks on the face of it like your season is kinda over. Not worried about relegation, unlikely to make the playoffs.
We've spent so much time lately looking at the wrong end of the table that it's nice to be able to relax in April!
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But that said, any day that Millwall lose is a good day. (I soooo hope we get to play them at Wembley in the cup final. That would be epic.)
That would make for a good final. Won't make me go out for it, of course - last time it was $20 at the local. The cable people sent out an employee to run the gate. (grumble grumble)
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But, Ad Orientem, you seem to be suggesting that you'd take him at West Ham, indicating that you don't think his alleged politics are a deal-breaker?
That's correct.
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Up the Owls!!
<ahem>Sorry. Couldn't resist saying that. Those three points may prove very useful. (And of course beating Millwall...)
We are going to Wembley, we are going to Wembley...
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I(I soooo hope we get to play them at Wembley in the cup final. That would be epic.)
If Millwall beat Wigan (which is at least possible if not likely) I'd much rather see City than Chelsea win the other semi. Not just because its almost always good to see Chelsea lose (not as good as it is to see Leeds or West Ham or Palace lose, but quite good) but because it means the final, like both semis, would be a London v. Manchester match. Fun for all the family
And quite seriously, whenever Millwall do anything the press coverage is always about violence, racism, street-fighting and so on. That's going to be worse if there is a Millwall-Chelsea match because of the local Derby nature of it, and the history of a certain rivalry between the two sets of fans (old history because they hardly ever play each other) will increase the opportunities for the press and TV to stick the boot in (and also for the fans to as well, if there are any who still want to - not that there need to be the Sun, and the Mail, and Sky TV are quite capable of manufacturing a a Millwall riot out of half a dozen teenagers shouting at each other in the street)
Also the policing would be a nightmare. The number of tickets on sale would be tiny compared with the number of fans who would want to go - they are suggesting 24,000 per club, and Chelsea get a lot more than that to ordinary League matches anyway, and Millwall have had no trouble selling their 30-something thousand to the semi-final. And a lot of the fans who can't get in are going to go out with their mates who have tickets before the match and get pissed anyway, and be hanging around central London or west London. A London-Manchester final avoids that.
The same workls the other way round of course Chelsea v Wigan might be a better idea than Man City v Wigan - but none of the other club's fans have quite the reputation that the Millwall fans have.
I imagine that the FA would dearly love to have had four top teams in the semi-finals, to get a bigger TV audience. At least its evidence that the draw is not rigged. If it had been they would have kept City and Chelsea apart, so there would have been at least one big team in each semi, and a near-certainty of a City v Chelsea final, which would get viewers all over the world. Somehow I doubt that there will be many armchair fans in Kuala Lumpur or Sao Paolo tuning in to Millwall v Wigan.
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And quite seriously, whenever Millwall do anything the press coverage is always about violence, racism, street-fighting and so on. That's going to be worse if there is a Millwall-Chelsea match because of the local Derby nature of it, and the history of a certain rivalry between the two sets of fans (old history because they hardly ever play each other) will increase the opportunities for the press and TV to stick the boot in (and also for the fans to as well, if there are any who still want to - not that there need to be the Sun, and the Mail, and Sky TV are quite capable of manufacturing a a Millwall riot out of half a dozen teenagers shouting at each other in the street).
My feeling from the Chelsea side is that those fans who could get tickets would relish a final against Millwall for the combative atmosphere at the ground, but no more. There is still a (rather small) violent underbelly to Chelsea's support, but the vast majority of them are on banning orders and so on. But that wouldn't stop them being around and about on the day of the game, and I can certainly imagine there could be limited amounts of trouble. But I'd certainly not be expecting a pitched battle on Wembley Way, as much as the Daily Mail would love it.
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The same workls the other way round of course Chelsea v Wigan might be a better idea than Man City v Wigan - but none of the other club's fans have quite the reputation that the Millwall fans have.
Wigan don't actually have any fans, do they? The DW is always half-empty and I think I saw today that they're only bringing 11,000 to the semi.
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Somehow I doubt that there will be many armchair fans in Kuala Lumpur or Sao Paolo tuning in to Millwall v Wigan.
True. The FA would be sharing Capital One's pain.
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Effing sucks that we struggled to a draw with Basel the day before yesterday and then lost out on penalties! This is malarkey! The match was bloody well rigged!
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(One man team.)
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"We had a good team on paper. Unfortunately, the game was played on grass."
Brian Clough
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