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Augustine the Aleut
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quote: Originally posted by Gee D: He may not have been able to sign the abdication papers at the time, but you'd think he could have learnt to write by now. Perhaps he was taught only Latin script, not Arabic.
It seems that his uncle (Prince Regent) and his father (former king) decided to leave the matter open. One of Saturday's kaffeklatsch Egyptians is (and I had no idea until now) a remote cousin of Queen Narriman (Fuad's mother) and tells me that Anwar Sadat restored Fuad's citizenship on the condition that he not pursue his claims. I really am not certain of the juridicial situation but he is said to have been puzzled at the recent rise in monarchist sentiment (the official facebook page only has 39,000 likes, however) and the flying of monarchist flags at rallies.
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I'd never heard Menzies did anything; however Canada loves to bask in its own self-righteousness over that bit of history, a little too much for my taste. But I've always been more of a realpolitik in foreign affairs.
The trouble with Engineers is we always think about how it can all go wrong even with the best of intentions.
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Gee D
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Menzies went to Cairo after Nasser and nationalised the Suez. His mission failed completely. There are accounts in his autobiography damning Nasser and promoting his own abilities. There's a more realistic assessment in Macmillan's autobiography - from memory Volume 5. In short, Menzies did nothing.
As to the Saturday morning group - we were given a whole kilo of lukum for Christmas; no ides how we'll get through it.
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An die Freude
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quote: Originally posted by Augustine the Aleut: quote: Originally posted by Gee D: He may not have been able to sign the abdication papers at the time, but you'd think he could have learnt to write by now. Perhaps he was taught only Latin script, not Arabic.
It seems that his uncle (Prince Regent) and his father (former king) decided to leave the matter open. One of Saturday's kaffeklatsch Egyptians is (and I had no idea until now) a remote cousin of Queen Narriman (Fuad's mother) and tells me that Anwar Sadat restored Fuad's citizenship on the condition that he not pursue his claims. I really am not certain of the juridicial situation but he is said to have been puzzled at the recent rise in monarchist sentiment (the official facebook page only has 39,000 likes, however) and the flying of monarchist flags at rallies.
I was very intrigued with this information. Do you have any more knowledge or sources about the monarchist flags at rallies? I did stumble across this article from Al Jazeera where the king gave his take on his return. Also, in 2010 the Guardian wrote about his surge in popularity. Also, to me, coming from a smaller country, 39 000 likes seem a decent amount, but then I don't know how many Egyptians are on Facebook (and I realize Egypt has a population of more than 80 million citizens). ETA: Fredrik Reinfeldt, PM of Sweden, only has 9 000 likes. David Cameron has 39 000. [ 26. December 2013, 09:47: Message edited by: JFH ]
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Augustine the Aleut
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Well, (ex-?) President Morsi has 2.7 million facebook fans, so 39,000 is not an overwhelming number in comparison, even if it does equal David Cameron's. As far as flags at rallies go, I recall one CNN comment on them and two on Al-Jazeera (which my new cable service provides). I have seen their cheerful crescent and stars on green on several occasions in coverage of riots and rallies, but image googling has provided me with nothing useful, confusing the UAR with the republican with Sudanese flags.
The Al-Jazeera article cited is not unreasonable in its suggestion that an above-politics figure could be a useful transitional element, but the politics of that region does not always follow the most logical route (or anywhere, if it comes to that).
My only other anecdotology contribution is from one of the Palestinian students in my former charge, who told me that her parents were fans of the Egyptian monarchy, who were the last Egyptians to give the Palestinians anything of use. She told me that monarchy-nostalgia is a big thing in Egypt right now, it being the last time anything seems to have functioned.
And for followers of really obscure information, the first head of the Royal Egyptian Air Force was a Winnipeg boy, Victor Tait (later Air Marshal Sir etc).... from the Assinaboia to the Nile...
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