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lilBuddha
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That is not a simple answer, cliffdweller. IME, I would say Americans are more myopic as a whole. However, not by the margin most would like to believe.

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Kelly Alves

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Yeah. And can I add that, unless I were totally joking, I would never make the kind if statements about English people that I see people making about Americans on the Ship. In other words, lilbuddha's statement is a lot more fair than category dismissing Americans as " narcissistic." Hollywood film studio execs, maybe, but dear God, Don't imply we are all like them.

Harriet Tubman as a civil war Joan of Arc? Hell yes! But if someone is going to tell the story of any female slave, it's gonna be a lot more shudder-worthy than that of the average male slave. Also-of course they need to address her head injury. Besides the fear- center thing, she would occasionally pass out mid-exodus. How can you leave that out? It was hugely problematic!

Sojurnour Truth is another slave-era hero that deserves to have her story heard. Many speculate as to whether or not she was a genuine prophet. Yet, while she had a general idea of God from an early age, her conversion to Christianity came about when the love of her life was beaten to death before her eyes. He kept calling out for someone named "Jesus", and she resolved to learn more about this person that was so important to the man she loved so much.(According to her narrative, the popular apology that slaves at least were getting the benefit of a proper religious education was false,at least at her plantation.)
Now, I agree we don't necessarily need a graphic visual of the above, but this incident,by Sojourner Truth's own words, was the turning point in her life. Anyone respecting her own words would give due weight to the horror and impact this incident had. Bypassing it, or giving it some lightweight Disney gloss, would insult the subject.

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Kelly Alves

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Oh, and I have seen "A Woman Called Moses"--while Cicely Tyson was marvelous, TV movies of that era tended toward the soap-opery, and were usually much watered down for "family hour." See if you can find the "Profiles in Courage" version of Tubman's story--it's much shorter, but is a high tension depiction of what one of Tubman's average runs must have been like. Including her passing out in the middle if the road.

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quote:
Now, I agree we don't necessarily need a graphic visual of the above, but this incident,by Sojourner Truth's own words, was the turning point in her life. Anyone respecting her own words would give due weight to the horror and impact this incident had. Bypassing it, or giving it some lightweight Disney gloss, would insult the subject.
I agree, very much.
I was very moved by the 'Aint I a Woman' speech when I first heard it years ago, and thought of her primarily as a feminist, rather than emancipated slave. When I read the quote in her original words, without the rhetoric or invented accent, I was even more moved.

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Kelly Alves

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She was a feminist. She basically said, "we are doing all this emancipating, and the women are still not free." She's one of my heroes.

[/tangent] [Big Grin] I once dreamed up a little Whovian fanfic in which a Girl Scout troop kidnaps the TARDIS (or she kidnaps them, rather) and the go see Sojourner Truth speak.[/tangent]

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