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Thread: The Honest to God Official Unwritten Ship of Fools Rules
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A.Pilgrim
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quote: Originally posted by Sherwood: quote: Originally posted by jacobsen: And please differentiate between a Kentish man and man of Kent. And then explain the difference to me.
A Man or Maid of Kent is a person born in East Kent. A Kentish Man or Maid is a person born in West Kent. Take it from a Man of Kent
... where the dividing line between East and West is defined by the course of the River Medway (which in the west of the county divides more north-south than east-west) Angus
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Campbellite
 Ut unum sint
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All Yanks are Americans, but not all Americans are Yanks. In some parts of the US, them's fightin' words. And no one, NO ONE in the US refers to the inhabitants thereof a USians. That's not even a word.
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Campbellite
 Ut unum sint
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As for the English only rule (serious answer)
Not all Shippies are native speakers of English. But all of us do speak some form of English. And we strongly encourage the use of proper English (as opposed to, say, l33t or other crap) in order to facilitate communication.
The Blessed Erin (peace be upon her) held us fast to that rule.
-------------------- I upped mine. Up yours. Suffering for Jesus since 1966. WTFWED?
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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quote: Originally posted by Campbellite: NO ONE in the US refers to the inhabitants thereof a USians. That's not even a word.
Hispanic Americans prefer "estadounidenses" to "americanos".
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe: quote: Originally posted by Campbellite: NO ONE in the US refers to the inhabitants thereof a USians. That's not even a word.
Hispanic Americans prefer "estadounidenses" to "americanos".
But that's not USians.
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Adeodatus
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quote: Originally posted by balaam: Never confuse the adjectives Scotch, Scottish and Scots. Just don't.
But was it ever thus? My family were mostly Presbyterians of the Scottish kind, even though they lived in Northumberland (the Scottish Presbyterian Church leaks south of the border a bit, and their village had both Scottish and English Presbyterian churches). But their marriage certificate (1950) says that they were married according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Scotch Presbyterians - written by a Scottish minister of that church.
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cosmic dance
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Rule 1 - Don't ever be a newbie. Rule 2 - Never post until you are not a newbie. Rule 3 - You are not a newbie when you have made a lot of posts. Rule 4 - Confused? See Rule 1.
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by Campbellite: All Yanks are Americans, but not all Americans are Yanks.
IME, no one from the Americas outside of the United States calls themselves American unless they hear someone from inside the United States call themselves American.
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St. Gwladys
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Wales is not in England Scotland is not in England Ireland is not in England. Britain or the UK, yes, but England, no.
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by St. Gwladys: Wales is not in England Scotland is not in England Ireland is not in England. Britain or the UK, yes, but England, no.
Ireland is not in England, Britain or the UK. It is part of the British Isles, though, along with some Crown dependencies.
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Chamois
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Originally posted by Ariel:
quote: Ireland is not in England, Britain or the UK.
Not so. The 6 counties of northern Ireland are in the UK, the heading on my passport reads "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" and the Union Flag still includes St Patrick's cross.
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Ariel
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I stand by what I said. Ireland is not in England, Britain or the UK. If you mean Northern Ireland, then you need to say so. "Ireland" is the Republic, which is not in England, Britain or the UK.
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quetzalcoatl
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Reminds me of Seamus Heaney:
"Be advised, my passport's green. No glass of ours was ever raised to toast the Queen."
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Leorning Cniht
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: Ireland is not in England, Britain or the UK. It is part of the British Isles, though, along with some Crown dependencies.
"The British Isles" consists of two large islands, called "Great Britain" and "Ireland", and a large number of small islands. These are geographical, rather than political or cultural, divisions.
"The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" consists of the countries of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It is often called "Britain" and its citizens "British", although as those words are also used for the island "Great Britain" it is sometimes unclear as to whether the inhabitants of Northern Ireland are included in these words.
"Ireland" or "The Republic of Ireland" is a country consisting of the majority of the island of Ireland. The words "Ireland" and "Irish" are used both for the country and also for the island and its inhabitants, so again it is sometimes unclear as to whether the inhabitants of Northern Ireland are included.
Whether or not you assume the inhabitants of Northern Ireland are by default included as "Irish", "British" or both may carry political implications. [ 20. January 2014, 18:34: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
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balaam
 Making an ass of myself
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: I stand by what I said. Ireland is not in England, Britain or the UK. If you mean Northern Ireland, then you need to say so. "Ireland" is the Republic, which is not in England, Britain or the UK.
Unless you play rugby.
The Ireland Rugby Union side is made up of players from the Republic and the North.
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cattyish
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Tangents are unnecessary.
Cattyish, idly stirring the pot.
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no prophet's flag is set so...
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Define your dialect, at least to a degree. And realize there are multiple meanings depending on your country and area, to some expressions.
The collateral one, is that if you are mocked for not understanding some dialect, use some yourself and mock back. Mindful of hosts who may or may partly or fully tolerate same.
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Leorning Cniht
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quote: Originally posted by cattyish: Tangents are unnecessary.
Tangents are inevitable
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by balaam: quote: Originally posted by Ariel: I stand by what I said. Ireland is not in England, Britain or the UK. If you mean Northern Ireland, then you need to say so. "Ireland" is the Republic, which is not in England, Britain or the UK.
Unless you play rugby.
The Ireland Rugby Union side is made up of players from the Republic and the North.
Apart from football and Olympic events, sports appear to be island-wide, both for the "Englishman's" games like rugby and cricket and the Gaelic sports like hurling.
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(Paul Sinha, BBC)
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Tubbs
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: quote: Originally posted by Barnabas62: 2. Hellhosting is, probably, the best possible training for senior management hereabouts.
*runs for the door screaming incoherently*
Admins have come from all the boards apart from, so far, the Circus. Of the current crop of Admins, two are ex-Hell hosts and the others are ex-Eccles, Purg, All Saints and Kerg.
Tubbs
-------------------- "It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it up and remove all doubt" - Dennis Thatcher. My blog. Decide for yourself which I am
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jedijudy
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quote: Originally posted by Tubbs: Of the current crop of Admins, two are ex-Hell hosts and the others are ex-Eccles, Purg, All Saints and Kerg.
Tubbs
Not Heaven? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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comet
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: quote: Originally posted by Tubbs: Of the current crop of Admins, two are ex-Hell hosts and the others are ex-Eccles, Purg, All Saints and Kerg.
Tubbs
Not Heaven?
it's not safe to let the ex-Heaven Hosts out of their restraints.
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"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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jedijudy
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Definitely an Official Unwritten Rule!
Some of us have been known to put bunny bombs on the other boards. On occasion.
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Siegfried
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Evangelical and Fundamentalist mean different things across the Atlantic. Woe on you if you use them wrong.
There is no Orthodox Plot(tm).
Mentioning GIN is a sure way to get sent to the scuppers.
Remember that there is more than one way to view what it means to be a Proper Christian.
-------------------- Siegfried Life is just a bowl of cherries!
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lilBuddha
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Unwritten rule for unwritten rules and ascribed cultural behaviours: It is Thus and has always been Thus. Except when it isn't, and it isn't because it never has been. Except when it is because it always was, sometimes
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Tubbs
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy:
Definitely an Official Unwritten Rule!
Some of us have been known to put bunny bombs on the other boards. On occasion.
Should have said active Admins. A few of the Emeritus Admins came from Heaven - Bel, Viola, Clare ... mumble ... mumble ...
To add to Siegfied's comment, GIN is always written in capitals. It just is.
Tubbs
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lilBuddha
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: Gin. GIn. gIn. gIN. giN. GiN. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin.
Shut up, lousy Vikings!
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Chorister
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quote: Originally posted by Siegfried:
There is no Orthodox Plot(tm).
Neither is there an In-crowd. Absolutely not.
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: Gin. GIn. gIn. gIN. giN. GiN. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin.
Run out of toilet duck again? Here you go, courtesy of Craggy Island Parochial House. Go on.
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Tubbs
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: Gin. GIn. gIn. gIN. giN. GiN. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin. gin.
Run out of toilet duck again? Here you go, courtesy of Craggy Island Parochial House. Go on.
Go on, go on, go on ... etc
Tubbs
-------------------- "It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it up and remove all doubt" - Dennis Thatcher. My blog. Decide for yourself which I am
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Stercus Tauri
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quote: Originally posted by Campbellite: All Yanks are Americans, but not all Americans are Yanks. In some parts of the US, them's fightin' words. And no one, NO ONE in the US refers to the inhabitants thereof a USians. That's not even a word.
I find the following supplementary definition to be quite helpful, though I can't remember where I got it from. It was useful in a wedding speech in Vermont not long ago:
“To foreigners, a Yankee is an American; to Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner; to Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner; to Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander; to New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter, and to a Vermonter, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.”
-------------------- Thay haif said. Quhat say thay, Lat thame say (George Keith, 5th Earl Marischal)
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orfeo
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quote: Originally posted by Patdys: quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: Their is a difference between both "to" and too" and "your" and "you're." Mix them up often to acclimatise the grammar Nazis to the real world.
Use Australian spelling as it is God's own country.
Strewth. Too bloody right.
-------------------- Technology has brought us all closer together. Turns out a lot of the people you meet as a result are complete idiots.
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Spike
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quote: Originally posted by Stercus Tauri: quote: Originally posted by Campbellite: All Yanks are Americans, but not all Americans are Yanks. In some parts of the US, them's fightin' words. And no one, NO ONE in the US refers to the inhabitants thereof a USians. That's not even a word.
I find the following supplementary definition to be quite helpful, though I can't remember where I got it from. It was useful in a wedding speech in Vermont not long ago:
“To foreigners, a Yankee is an American; to Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner; to Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner; to Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander; to New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter, and to a Vermonter, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.”
I once heard it said that when the British talk about America, they mean New York. When they talk about New York, they mean Manhatten.
-------------------- "May you get to heaven before the devil knows you're dead" - Irish blessing
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Spike: I once heard it said that when the British talk about America, they mean New York. When they talk about New York, they mean Manhatten.
Many New Yorkers (and most Americans) seem to think that New York City (and even New York State) = Manhattan.
And many Americans think that England = London. I go to England just about every summer but rarely to London, yet every year people ask me about my trip to London.
-------------------- "...that is generally a matter for Pigwidgeon, several other consenting adults, a bottle of cheap Gin and the odd giraffe." ~Tortuf
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Pigwidgeon: quote: Originally posted by Spike: I once heard it said that when the British talk about America, they mean New York. When they talk about New York, they mean Manhatten.
Many New Yorkers (and most Americans) seem to think that New York City (and even New York State) = Manhattan.
And many Americans think that England = London. I go to England just about every summer but rarely to London, yet every year people ask me about my trip to London.
When Americans talk about Manhattan do they mean all of Manhattan? I'm not even sure most Britons are aware that Harlem is part of Manhattan!
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Hugal
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Pigwidgeon: quote: Originally posted by Spike: I once heard it said that when the British talk about America, they mean New York. When they talk about New York, they mean Manhatten.
Many New Yorkers (and most Americans) seem to think that New York City (and even New York State) = Manhattan.
And many Americans think that England = London. I go to England just about every summer but rarely to London, yet every year people ask me about my trip to London.
When Americans talk about Manhattan do they mean all of Manhattan? I'm not even sure most Britons are aware that Harlem is part of Manhattan!
I am aware that Harlem is on Manhattan, and was even before we went there on holiday. It is the outer boroughs that us Brits tend to get mixed up.
My unwritten rule is If both partners (spouses, other halves what ever you wish to call them) are shipmates don't go all lovey dovey with each other. I am sure that Gill H my wonderful, baby waybey best wifey in the world would agree.
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ken
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I suspect that even some New Yorkers aren't aware that Marble Hill is in Manhattan. I've vaguely wanted to go there for years. Because Broadway.
-------------------- Ken
L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.
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Sir Kevin
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I am a citizen of the world. I was born in LA and am reasonably well-traveled. I have a valid US passport. I passed the British citizenship test, and God willing, I shall die a British subject before I am ninety. My aunt will reach that milestone in about five weeks!
-------------------- If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction Dietrich Bonhoeffer Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: quote: Originally posted by Tubbs: Of the current crop of Admins, two are ex-Hell hosts and the others are ex-Eccles, Purg, All Saints and Kerg.
Tubbs
Not Heaven?
I did a stint in Heaven. Also All Saints.
-------------------- Hail Gallaxhar
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Chorister
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Ex-hosts should never boast about all the perks - the private yacht, the world cruise, the gold plated Lambeth Palace pass, the first class rail tickets to shipmeets, the chauffer driven limo, the free SoF mugs of GIN - need I go on??
-------------------- Retired, sitting back and watching others for a change.
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