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Nenya
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quote: Originally posted by Rev per Minute: My wife vetoed Angharad for either of our daughters, on the (to me) unreasonable assumption that no-one would be able to spell it.
I vetoed Eugenie for the same reason - I have a middle name that I always have to spell for people and it's annoying. Having said that, Eugenie's very pretty and while I can't imagine our daughter called anything else than her given name now I sometimes wonder whether we deprived her of a pretty and rather unusual name - although I guess everyone would assume that we had copied the Duke and Duchess of York.
I do know of a Bonnie Heather - both pretty names but rather odd to put them together I feel...
If I'd been a boy I was going to be Alistair. No offence to any Alistairs here but I feel I had a lucky escape. And my mum's first choice for me was Jessica which I think is a lovely name if that's what it stays but I'd have gone through life as Jessie or Jess no doubt.
Nen - went off topic a bit, sorry.
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ken
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Angharad seems easier to spell than Eugenie to me. Follows all the normal rules of both English and Welsh spelling.
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Horseman Bree
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My father taught a young lad known by the entrancing (not!) name of Hugh Eustace Hughes, who was called "Hey You" by just about everyone.
The worst I have encountered was Holly Berry.
Fortunately none of the Hoar girls had first names that made things worse.
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dj_ordinaire
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I encounter a fair few Irish names which are fine in the local context but would be asking for trouble if the child ended up in any other part of the world. Grainne, Feidhlim, Aoilbhe, Eanna...
The one I would never use is probably Caoimhe (pronounced 'Kweever'). It just sounds... odd!
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Ariel
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The one I'd never use would be Gobnait. If anyone is even called that these days.
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North East Quine
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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
quote: My mother would rather have liked to call me Agnes. I am more than grateful for the paternal veto. (I actually think with the French pronunciation - roughly Annyes - it can be alright, but not the English one, and it really wouldn’t have gone with our surname.)
I love the name Agnes! However, I'd already named my cat Agnes before my daughter came along, so it wasn't an option.
Agnes (the cat) was black and so partially named after Black Agnes . Like Black Agnes, Agnes the cat was intelligent, regal, disdainful, and beautiful.
My daughter is relieved the cat got the name first.
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Chorister
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My brother shuddered in horror when he realised one of the names he would have been given, if a girl, was Damaris. Shortened to Dam by all his mates in no time, no doubt!
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bib
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My dad had a schoolfriend called Ferdinand Flowerdew. I went to school with Marietta Grubb.
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Fredegund
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I knew a Penny Farthing. Remember being fascinated by the writings of the American historian Preserved Smith solely on account of the name.
I've never understood why parents give their child a name and promptly call them something else. I had a major crisis on starting school and finding out I wasn't a Lizzie.
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marzipan
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Some Irish names are impossible to pronounce unless you know - Aoife looks quite odd at first (Eeeffa is approximately phonetic). My driving instructor is called Caoimhghin (Quiveen - it's the equivalent of Kevin)
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Moo
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There is a line in C. S. Lewis's The Voyage of the Dawn Treader which goes roughly, "There was a boy named Eustace Clarence Scrubbs, and he almost deserved it."
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georgiaboy
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It's hard to beat the names of Job's daughters -- Keziah, Jemimah, and (wait for it) Karen-happuch. (spelling not guaranteed!). My OT prof said that the last mentioned translated as 'horns of paint.'
Here in the 'Old South' we tend to use family names almost exclusively, which can be pretty confusing.
You get things like Rhett Wilkes Ravenal, Ravenal Butler Wilkes, Wilkes Wilkes Butler, and on and on. (And any of these combinations can be disposed upon either male or female children. (Of course, they tend to get called Sissy or Puss if female, or Bubba, Buddy or Sonny if male.)
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by North East Quine: I love the name Agnes! However, I'd already named my cat Agnes before my daughter came along, so it wasn't an option.
I had a character in a story I was working on who I originally named "Annie." I decided that was to sweet and pure, so I decided to give her a name that was a bit of an albatross. She is now Agnes ("Aggie.") I smiled at your post because one of the characters-- a nice Catholic boy-- pounces all over her when she gripes about her name, and says just what you did.
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by dj_ordinaire: The one I would never use is probably Caoimhe (pronounced 'Kweever'). It just sounds... odd!
Just say it. It sounds like "Queef."
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Mamacita
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One of the cable news networks has a female announcer/pundit named Krystal Ball. Supposedly her father is a physicist who had done extensive research on crystals. Krystal is a very nice name, but you have to wonder if her parents didn't notice the surname they were pairing it with.
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Signaller
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: Unfortunate names can also be context-specific. My middle name is Margaret. I was born in 1979. It’s actually a family name, nothing to do with the politics of the time, but nonetheless I think my Dad regrets it a bit now.
My sister is called Margaret. Until reading this, I had never thought of her as having any link with the late Baroness T. I suppose it's quite a common name in her generation (early 60s) and there are plenty of other well-known Margarets.
Now if I had been called Adolf... [ 27. February 2014, 19:54: Message edited by: Signaller ]
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St. Gwladys
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quote: Originally posted by georgiaboy: It's hard to beat the names of Job's daughters -- Keziah, Jemimah, and (wait for it) Karen-happuch. (spelling not guaranteed!). My OT prof said that the last mentioned translated as 'horns of paint.'
One of Darllenwr's cousins has a daughter called Keziah
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by Mamacita: One of the cable news networks has a female announcer/pundit named Krystal Ball. Supposedly her father is a physicist who had done extensive research on crystals. Krystal is a very nice name, but you have to wonder if her parents didn't notice the surname they were pairing it with.
Guy I fenced with called himself "Rick." I finally asked him what his last name was one day and he swallowed, said "Nixon," and then glowered at me in a way that told me I needed to keep my mouth shut.
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HCH
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I think someone mentioned the name Blodduedd. I suggest also not using the names Bodb and Anu. (On the other hand, Cerridwen might be a nice name.)
In one of Madeleine L'Engle's novels, there is a character named Polyhymnia.
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Amos
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I know some very nice and beautiful young ladies named Agnes and Kerenhappuch. It's not so much the name itself that's good or bad, I think, as whether it combines well with your surname. Preserved Fish is the famous one referred to above, but there are plenty of young men named Ewan Kerr who wish their parents had thought it through.
I think it's always a good thing to avoid naming a child after what you were drinking when s/he was conceived (Brandy, Merlot, Margaux, Chardonnay, Tia Maria) or what you were wearing (Jersey, Ellesse), and to imagine that s/he might grow up to be a high court judge. Though if your surname is Fudge, there will always be problems--yes, there is a Deputy District Judge Fudge in the UK, and she's been quoted in the papers recently.
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Chorister
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quote: Originally posted by Amos: It's not so much the name itself that's good or bad, I think, as whether it combines well with your surname.
A friend of my mother's rejected her very plummy sounding birth name and instead renamed herself 'Dick' for the rest of her life (as it was her favourite name). Only trouble was, her surname when she got married was 'Head'. It didn't stop her, though.
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Gill H
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Or even seemingly innocent ones like Jenny Taylor (say it aloud) or, of course, Michael Hunt.
We have a friend who insists he knew a man called Urek Hans Unt, who was always referred to by all three names. Not sure I believe him though!
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Kittyville
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There is a lawyer in Hong Kong called Chlorophyll Yip. Allegedly she has a sister called Photosynthesis, but I don't know if that's true or not. I do have a colleague who has met Chlorophyll, though, so I know she exists.
Tangent/ When my colleague told me excitedly that he had finally met her, I asked what she was like. He replied "Well, she was wearing green, for a start"./ End tangent
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L'organist
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At a school in rural Oxfordshire in the 1970s I encountered a little tearaway - and thought his problems might have something to do with the fact that his parents, Mr & Mrs King, had decided to call him Lee.
His older brother suffered a worse fate - Wayne.
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Horseman Bree
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quote: Originally posted by Chorister: My brother shuddered in horror when he realised one of the names he would have been given, if a girl, was Damaris. Shortened to Dam by all his mates in no time, no doubt!
There was/is a singer from Newfoundland who had a brief spell of popularity about a decade ago, who rejoiced in the name of Damhnait Doyle
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North East Quine
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A local tradesman, with the first name Robert, was known as "Head first" because his parents, a Mr and Mrs Slater, hadn't thought long enough. Robert Slater sounds fine, R. Slater, less so.
(Head first, arse later)
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orfeo
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Family names can be odd things. My grandfather's middle name was the maiden name of his maternal grandmother or great-grandmother (although I'm not sure HE knew the origin of it, we found out through family history work).
My grandmother has related the story of how, just before their wedding, he came to her and said "I've got a confession to make".
Inevitably her mind raced, wondering what it could be. Had he been seeing another girl? Was there some secret in his past that meant they couldn't marry?
No. What he actually said, having realised that he had to sign the marriage certificate and register, was: "My middle name isn't Adrian".
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Mamacita
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quote: Originally posted by Amos: I think it's always a good thing to avoid naming a child after what you were drinking when s/he was conceived (Brandy, Merlot, Margaux, Chardonnay, Tia Maria) ...
So true. Forgive me for posting something I've told multiple times already, but I had a co-worker whose baby was conceived on a September vacation to the Napa Valley ("wine country") in California. They named the baby Autumn Chardonnay.
The mother, being a creative person employed in marketing, came up with a birth announcement that was shaped like a wine bottle and had all sorts of wine-related puns like the baby being "decanted." (Ewwww.) The best part is that the day the birth announcements arrived in the mail, I got a phone call from a mutual colleague who said, "This is so strange. Diane's birth announcement doesn't have the baby's name on it. Just something about a bottle of Chardonnay."
The girl is in her 20s now, and I hope she hasn't suffered too much embarrassment over it.
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Firenze
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It's to be hoped the idea doesn't catch on in Scotland. Weans running around - depending on where they are in the social scale - called Laphroig, Cardhu, Eightyshilling, Buckie or just Bevvied.
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orfeo
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How odd. Because that middle name of my grandfather that I didn't actually reveal? Allport.
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Sandemaniac
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I've always thought Fanny Ruffle to sound like an illustration in a gynaecology textbook. For US shipmates, a British fanny is less unisex and further forwards than a US one...
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roybart
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I recently encountered a young male supermarket cashier whose name tag read Beethova.
This led me to ponder whether there are any Shoobutts, Moesars, Verdees or Bairlyosses out there.
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Rev per Minute
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quote: Originally posted by Amos: I think it's always a good thing to avoid naming a child after what you were drinking when s/he was conceived (Brandy, Merlot, Margaux, Chardonnay, Tia Maria) or what you were wearing (Jersey, Ellesse), and to imagine that s/he might grow up to be a high court judge. Though if your surname is Fudge, there will always be problems--yes, there is a Deputy District Judge Fudge in the UK, and she's been quoted in the papers recently.
That can work the other way - until recently, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales was Lord Justice Judge, previously Mr Justice Judge (probably known to friends as Judge Judge).
A nearly churchyard has a memorial to a Keren-Happuch from the late 19th century, a name shared by a shipmate (IRL AFAIK!)
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quetzalcoatl
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On our school war memorial was the name James Parrot Seed. All new boys were solemnly taken to observe it.
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Campbellite
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quote: Originally posted by ken: quote: Originally posted by cheesymarzipan: Anything too similar to the surname - William Williams, David Davies, Conor O'Connor etc should probably be avoided (any how unimaginative!)
Unless actually Welsh. Or just possibly old-fashioned Scottish or Irish aristocracy.
My college roommate was named Robert Roberts. We variously called him "Bob Bob" or B^2. (He was a math major.)
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Penny S
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My sisters went to a school (grammar, too) where there were a Pearl Button and a Cherry Orchard.
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Piglet
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I associate "Chardonnay" with the television series Footballers' Wives, where I assumed it was a piss-take; I don't suppose that's going to stop some people thinking "what a good idea".
It may be worth avoiding full-on household names - I went to school with a Richard Burton and an Elizabeth Taylor. They would both have been born in 1962/63; whether they were named after film stars or their own grandparents/aunties/uncles I have no idea.
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Sandemaniac
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quote: Originally posted by quetzalcoatl: On our school war memorial was the name James Parrot Seed. All new boys were solemnly taken to observe it.
Quetzalcoatl isn't kidding! OK, I'm a tragic, not only could I not resist looking it up, I knew where...
AG
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Horseman Bree
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I remember a Letter to the Editor of The Times, about a fellow-worker whose name was Guy Chapman.
This obviously meant that he was actually (male) Person Person Person.
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Barnabas Aus
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There are two very elderly gentlemen in our small town who were classmates at school about eight decades ago. Their names - Cecil Rhodes and William Shakespeare.
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Eirenist
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My wife taught a girl who had been christened Margaret Nelson Trafalgar Day. Needless to add that her father (Mr Day) served in the Royal Navy and she was born on the anniversary of the battle. She was lucky to escape being called Horatia, I think.
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Keren-Happuch
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Originally posted by Rev per Minute: quote:
A nearly churchyard has a memorial to a Keren-Happuch from the late 19th century, a name shared by a shipmate (IRL AFAIK!)
Not IRL.
KGlet1 goes to school with a Cain - not the most encouraging of Biblical names. The current fashion for hyphenated names in our neck of the woods has resulted in some pretty odd combinations...
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Zacchaeus
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yes around here to hyphenating surnames has become the way of showing committment rather than marriage.
linked with the fashion for hyphenating christian names...
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Sir Kevin
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LATRINA!
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Sola gratia
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I've met a cockney Keziah. Works surprisingly well.
My old Science teacher, a definite evangelical, has a brood of little ones, one of whom must be about 4 now and is reputedly called Hephzibah.
A family friend goes by Jo King. What's always foxed me, is that King is her married surname, and I don't think Jo is her real first name...
My favourite name anecdote is that I know of an Austin Kettle. Sounds like a nickname for a terrible make of car.
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Dal Segno
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Crystal Claire Waters is funny but not for poor Crystal. The same for Rusty Fawcett. And Trevor Pott is OK until you get people asking for "T. Pott" or "Pott, T."
Then there is the girl called Krystl, because "the second vowel isn't really needed."
And then the boy called Philips, for a first name, which is his mother's maiden name, without the parents thinking that the poor kid will go through life having to correct everyone who thinks his name is Philip. He uses his middle name.
And finally Professor Randy Katz' name always causes British students to do a double-take, much to the bemusement of his fellow Americans.
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Penny S
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Many moons ago, an ex-colleague and her double barrelled husband took to naming their children from the fund of Anglo-Danish names which have not, generally, made it through to the late 20th century, much to the bemusement of her ex-colleagues. It can't have done much harm, as at least three of them have serious careers, and at least two are involved in churches and music. Which is why I do not feel free to give their names here.
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bib
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I had a patient called Chlorine and another called Purification. Then there was the chap from many years ago when I first started work : his name was Royal North Shore Sydney Harbour Bridge (he was known as Syd).
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