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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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A Republican member of the US Congress has proposed that children who receive free school lunches should sweep the floor as payment.

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we make members of Congress sweep the floor to earn their keep? After all, the present Congress is on track to become the most unproductive Congress in modern history.

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How about send your congress people's kids to the wars they love so much? And maybe send the representatives as well. Failing, visit them some with some Christmas drones. Cruise missiles being so last year.

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Oh change the record No Point. You’ll bet telling us next that asking kids to sweep up is a war crime.

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we make members of Congress sweep the floor to earn their keep? After all, the present Congress is on track to become the most unproductive Congress in modern history.

I'd rather have Congress sweep floors than pass bills.

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I just posted "Are there no workhouse?" on his Facebook page. [Devil]

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When I was in school there were always a few kids who helped the janitors. It took just a few, so I doubt there would be enough work to go around.

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Originally posted by deano:
Oh change the record No Point. You’ll bet telling us next that asking kids to sweep up is a war crime.

Playing the bagpipes out of your ass again I see hasbeeno.

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Not a Jack Kingston original, I'm afraid. Gingrich suggested the same or similar in the last Republican clown-car Flurry For Republican Presidential Nominee.

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Don't say anything bad about right-wingers, fascists, or slavers. Deano will have a shitfit.

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
Oh change the record No Point. You’ll bet telling us next that asking kids to sweep up is a war crime.

Dear me, I thought kids went to school to learn, not be extra janitors.

The reason we feed them is because a well-fed stomach is essential for learning.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican_Brat:
quote:
Originally posted by deano:
Oh change the record No Point. You’ll bet telling us next that asking kids to sweep up is a war crime.

Dear me, I thought kids went to school to learn, not be extra janitors.

The reason we feed them is because a well-fed stomach is essential for learning.

The ones that did it when I was in school stuck around did their work after school was over.

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"Mark" is a short film about the life of 10 year old boy who is one of 28,000 homeless children living in Orange County California.

It's just under 4 minutes.


This isn't hellish, but these are my thoughts and comments:

These kids are everywhere, so are their families. It's warmed up to -27°C here this afternoon. The shelters all relaxed their rules on crowding and intoxication this week, with the cold. We hit -39°C earlier in the week. The Salvation Army and Food Bank put out an appeal and they now have enough, actually more than enough.

People are basically good if you allow them to be and show them what are truly advocating. Those who aren't, it's binary isn't it? Either stupid or evil. I go with stupid even when they are evil. Gives me hope.

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He's a mean one, Newt Gingrich
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Newt Gingrich is working now as a commentator on CNN. How CNN could think that anyone would have the slightest interest in listening to anything such a blowhard might have to say is beyond me -- unless they're interested in giving Faux News a run for their money.

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quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
He's a mean one, Newt Gingrich

Wonderful! (unfortunately)

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quote:
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"Mark" is a short film about the life of 10 year old boy who is one of 28,000 homeless children living in Orange County California....

This New York Times Magazine article has been making waves lately.
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Jesus wept.

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Newt Gingrich is working now as a commentator on CNN. How CNN could think that anyone would have the slightest interest in listening to anything such a blowhard might have to say is beyond me -- unless they're interested in giving Faux News a run for their money.

He's on Crossfire. And blowhard Piers Morgan has his own show.

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Newt Gingrich is working now as a commentator on CNN. How CNN could think that anyone would have the slightest interest in listening to anything such a blowhard might have to say is beyond me -- unless they're interested in giving Faux News a run for their money.

Yes, I'm quite sure the subtleties of selling advertising airtime is beyond you.

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Yes, I'm quite sure the subtleties of selling advertising airtime is beyond you.

You mean that fact and news are prostitutes for hire.
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Yes, I'm quite sure the subtleties of selling advertising airtime is beyond you.

You mean that fact and news are prostitutes for hire.
I mean that the mere fact that Gingrich is on CNN will ensure that limp-wristed socialists like you No Point will watch him just so you can be offended by him. You will, sheep-like, tune in just to hear him mock you. Then you will get angry.

Thus CNN can sell the airtime to companies selling vegan suppositories and plastic shoes and so forth.

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No CNN here. Its an American thing.

You just called socialists a euphemism for homosexuality or effeminacy
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you really are a toad, a terrible disgusting toad.
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No, no, no. deano means it is because his own wrist is strengthened every-time he watches the Newt.
costing him a fortune in tissues, though.

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You just called socialists a euphemism for homosexuality or effeminacy
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you really are a toad, a terrible disgusting toad.
What did a toad ever do to you, no prophet, that you would insult them like that?

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No, no, no. deano means it is because his own wrist is strengthened every-time he watches the Newt.
costing him a fortune in tissues, though.

He masturbates while watching Gingrich?
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No, no, no. deano means it is because his own wrist is strengthened every-time he watches the Newt.
costing him a fortune in tissues, though.

He masturbates while watching Gingrich?
Now that's what I call a fetish. [Eek!]

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
I mean that the mere fact that Gingrich is on CNN will ensure that limp-wristed socialists like you . . . will watch him just so you can be offended by him. . . . CNN can sell the airtime to companies selling vegan suppositories and plastic shoes and so forth.

No, deano dear, I change channels the instant the newt darkens my screen. And I don't wear plastic shoes or use suppositories of any provenance.

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You son of a bitch deano.

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I really want to say with gritted teeth after watching scenes of the Kinder Transport you fucking son of a bitch. You disappoint me so, I don't get this angry. It's conflation with the fucking Nazis who, you'll be glad to know, make me viscerally rethink my pacifism.

But I just watched a representation of our Lord dying for the Nazis, the Jews, you and me.

So please forgive me, you .... and I wrote the word I NEVER use and even Jesus couldn't shame me in to retracting it.

But He did. Not shame, something else. Me too.

[ 22. December 2013, 20:58: Message edited by: Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard ]

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quote:
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And I don't wear plastic shoes or use suppositories of any provenance.

If you do use suppositories, though, be careful around the cops. That's probable cause these days.

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deano
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quote:
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No CNN here. Its an American thing.

You just called socialists a euphemism for homosexuality or effeminacy
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you really are a toad, a terrible disgusting toad.
CNN is available on Freeview, Sky and a whole host of other channels. I don't watch it. Prefer Fox meself.

Anyhoo No Point, it seems to me that you have just done the very thing you have accused me of doing. Let mne walk you through it slowly...

1) I said Socialists were limp-wristed. That is all. I made no connection between limp-wristedness and homosexuality. As far as I know no homosexuals are limp-wristed.

2) You did. You made a connection between limp-wristedness and homosexuality. You naughty homophobe.

I don't know any gay people with limp-wrists. Perhaps you do, or perhaps you are just falling back onto stereotypes with which you are fluent.

Either way it seems to me that the only people who have made any kind of connection between limp-wristedness and homosexuality are you and a few others like you, socialists all, which is amusing.

When did you start becoming a homophobic bigot No Point?

[ 23. December 2013, 13:32: Message edited by: deano ]

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Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
I really want to say with gritted teeth after watching scenes of the Kinder Transport you fucking son of a bitch. You disappoint me so, I don't get this angry. It's conflation with the fucking Nazis who, you'll be glad to know, make me viscerally rethink my pacifism.

But I just watched a representation of our Lord dying for the Nazis, the Jews, you and me.

So please forgive me, you .... and I wrote the word I NEVER use and even Jesus couldn't shame me in to retracting it.

But He did. Not shame, something else. Me too.

Are you addressing the above to me MPC? 'Cos if you are I don't give a shit. I hope I have upset you because I despise you. I hope you fall back into the grip of fundamentalism from which you are struggling to extracate yourself.

I have never forgiven you for denying Christianity to soldiers, and I hope that you have a seriously unpleasant life for that reason.

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Oh - let me add Ian Duncan Smith to this thread for being a complete cunt as well...
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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quote:
Originally posted by deano:
CNN is available on Freeview, Sky and a whole host of other channels. I don't watch it. Prefer Fox meself.

You would.
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I don't know any gay people with limp-wrists.

You need to get out more.

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hasbeeno: We get that you're a narcissist, a jerk, and a troll. Go read about yourself somewhere else. You and your lizard.

http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=005264#000000

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hasbeeno: We get that you're a narcissist, a jerk, and a troll. Go read about yourself somewhere else. You and your lizard.

http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=005264#000000

... but not a homophobe No Point. I'll leave that to you.

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Are you addressing the above to me MPC? 'Cos if you are I don't give a shit. I hope I have upset you because I despise you.

"oh yeah? well, I don't care what you think, you big poopyhead! Did you hear me?!? Your opinion means nothing to me! Goddamn it, are you listening to me?"

You're just too fucking cute, deano. You'll do more for the Liberal Cause™ than Fox News and Sarah Palin combined. Treehuggers Anonymous is going to make you their poster child.

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Originally posted by deano:
Are you addressing the above to me MPC? 'Cos if you are I don't give a shit. I hope I have upset you because I despise you.

"oh yeah? well, I don't care what you think, you big poopyhead! Did you hear me?!? Your opinion means nothing to me! Goddamn it, are you listening to me?"

You're just too fucking cute, deano. You'll do more for the Liberal Cause™ than Fox News and Sarah Palin combined. Treehuggers Anonymous is going to make you their poster child.

I doubt it. They don't know who I am you slow-witted bag of hormones.

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The real problem with people who brush off the evil they express, is the effects of their attitudes.

You crossed a line deano, you know it, and you don't care. Then you project it outward.

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The real problem with people who brush off the evil they express, is the effects of their attitudes.

You crossed a line deano, you know it, and you don't care. Then you project it outward.

No. I know you are hard of thinking, but as I said, I never made any kind of connection between limp-wristedness and homosexuality.

YOU DID.

Now you are trying to wriggle out of it you homophobic bigot. You hide it well and bury it deep but it's there and now and then it comes up to the surface.

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Originally posted by deano:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
The real problem with people who brush off the evil they express, is the effects of their attitudes.

You crossed a line deano, you know it, and you don't care. Then you project it outward.

No. I know you are hard of thinking, but as I said, I never made any kind of connection between limp-wristedness and homosexuality.

YOU DID.

Now you are trying to wriggle out of it you homophobic bigot. You hide it well and bury it deep but it's there and now and then it comes up to the surface.

Sorry, oh leano-of-brain, but you are wrong.

But we forgive you, since preadolescents can't be expected to own college-level dictionaries.

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Obviously he meant the "soft flabby ineffectual" definition. Anyone could tell that. Not.

And anyone who leapt to the more common "Usually Disparaging and Offensive.(of a man or boy) exhibiting feminine characteristics; effeminate; homosexual" one is free game for a round of "I know what you are but what am I?" from ol' deano. What fun. [Roll Eyes]

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Originally posted by deano:
I never made any kind of connection between limp-wristedness and homosexuality.

Well, if you'd prefer us to believe that you're a complete idiot who has managed to get through his life without ever hearing limp-wristedness as a metaphor for homosexuality, rather than a juvenile bigot, you can make that choice.

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It pains me to spring to deano's defence, but I can understand how someone can use the term 'limp-wristed' to denote effeminacy in men, without necessarily implying any connection with homosexuality. Of course, the term is usually associated (disparagingly) with reference to gay men, and someone would have to be a bit naive to think they could use the term without that connotation, but c'mon, let's not be semantic fascists. We've got one resident fascist; we don't really need any more...

The definitions I have seen include (which I notice someone else has already mentioned):

Ineffectual; effete.

Usually disparaging and offensive: (of a man or boy) exhibiting feminine characteristics; effeminate; homosexual.

Soft; flabby.


Take your pick.

This conversation rather reminds me of my unforgivable sin against liberal fascism some time ago when I dared to use the past participle of the perfectly ordinary English verb "to retard". Apparently I sparked Armaggedon with that act of iniquity, and only deep contrition in sackcloth and ashes could save the world from total annihilation!

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Course effeminate is assuming that being female like is somehow bad.

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Course effeminate is assuming that being female like is somehow bad.

My thought, too.

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EE, the stupidity lies not so much in trying to use the phrase to denote something other than homosexuality. It lies in carrying on as if using it to denote homosexuality was a complete surprise and a strange invention of another Shipmate.

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I will admit that I am highly sensitive and touchy re matters of discrimination and also that I'm not sorry about it. The responses of Doublethink and Orfeo have it exactly.

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quote:
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Course effeminate is assuming that being female like is somehow bad.

In much the same way, left-handedness is seen as something dodgy.

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I will admit that I am highly sensitive and touchy re matters of discrimination and also that I'm not sorry about it.

Unless, of course, it involves discrimination against and lack of sensitivity towards soldiers suffering from post traumatic stress disorder.

And then we see the true no prophet. Gutless.

(BTW, as far as I am concerned, courageous soldiers are at the front of the queue for sympathy and sensitivity. People like you are at the end.)

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