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Erroneous Monk
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Naked capitalism leads to people chained to sewing machines and not given potty breaks, or (say) factories with suicide nets so the workers who aren't chained down can't escape that way.

Or is that failed capitalism? (Or untried capitalism?) If there was truly free global movement of labour, the workers would have as much power as any other supplier.

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deano
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If you want to earn more, learn more. Stop fucking about in school and get some decent qualifications. Then you will get a better job.

The statistics prove that over a working lifetime a graduate will earn more than a non-graduate, and even more than someone who has no qualifications.

That applies to the west of course. Not to the truly poor of Africa. I don't class any westener as poor, just lazy or thick. They have their uses however don't you EE?

But true poverty - Afican style - is a tragedy and more importantly an embarassment. It needs fixing.

All this bollocks about we need to get everyone to a middle level which is richer than the poorest and poorer than the richest is economic illiteracy. We need to get eveyone up to the richest - up to western levels.

And that is best done with free, honest trade, no corrupt governments and bureaucracies stealing from the people, and no wars.

The levelling up will take care of itself under those conditions.

Oh, and a Christian is everyone, regardless of your politics or personal wealth. Sorry, God has already taken care of that for you.

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Hugal
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Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
All those who believe in justice, love, reason and sanity.

I am an evangelical and a Charismatic. I believe in Justice, love, reason and sanity. I

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Hugal
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Sorry I messed up somewhere.
I do not hold any of those opinions that you spouted EE. I want to see hurting people helped. Don't tar us all with the same brush.

As to the poverty issue. The love of money is the root of all evil not money its self. You don't have to be poor to be Christian but you do have to have a right attitude towards your wealth. God amazingly uses those Christians who have money (and I include those who live in the West and are not living on the street or sheltered housing) to help those in countries that are in serious trouble or there governments are crap. In an unfair but free society God use the haves to help the have nots.

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EtymologicalEvangelical
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Calm down, Hugal.

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Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Naked capitalism leads to people chained to sewing machines and not given potty breaks, or (say) factories with suicide nets so the workers who aren't chained down can't escape that way.

Or is that failed capitalism? (Or untried capitalism?) If there was truly free global movement of labour, the workers would have as much power as any other supplier.
The workers are not a supplier. The workers are a billion independent suppliers, and the powerful can play divide-and-conquer at will, driving wages and conditions into the ground. What can stop them? In an unregulated capitalism, nothing. Save, maybe, armed revolution. Which looks better every day.

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