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quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
[QUOTE] those awful sickly-sweet Guylian seashells*.

In spite of very heavy hints over the years (to the point of pinning a chocolate wrapper to the pin board and saying regularly "This is my favourite chocolate"), Mr Lil's idea of Christmas shopping was always to buy whatever chocolate is on special offer at the local shops. I usually ended up eating it anyway [Hot and Hormonal]

He finally got the message when I made him take a box of Guylian Seashells back on Boxing Day to the garage where he bought them.
He hasn't bought me any chocolates since, but to be honest, that's not a bad thing, is it?

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Back once again to the trying to think of ways to motivate myself to study other than chocolate! (Any ideas welcome.)
Also was meant to be going to the gym today, but it won't be happening, as just breathing today hurts thanks to the bug I have picked up (moan over I promise!)

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Weighed in this morning for the first time since 17th December - and I have shed 9 lbs.
I told you I didnt feel very well (cold bug, not the other one)!
In WW terms, I have reached my 10% target, and I have only another 1 st 11 lbs to get to my end-goal!

Yay me!

How is everyone else doing?

(Sorry to all those who are also not feeling very well...it is a horrid bug and takes a long time to get rid of. I feel OKish today but I know I will feel tired this afternoon.)

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Well done St E.

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quote:
Originally posted by St Everild:
Weighed in this morning for the first time since 17th December - and I have shed 9 lbs.
I told you I didnt feel very well (cold bug, not the other one)!
In WW terms, I have reached my 10% target, and I have only another 1 st 11 lbs to get to my end-goal!

Yay me!

How is everyone else doing?

(Sorry to all those who are also not feeling very well...it is a horrid bug and takes a long time to get rid of. I feel OKish today but I know I will feel tired this afternoon.)

Fantastic news St E - yay you indeed.

The Envious Mrs. S - can I get the weight loss without the bug, please?

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A new regime starts today - swimming at lunchtime on the days I'm not working and 45 minutes cycling whilst watching Pointless every day at 5:15 (My husband has a bike trainer which involves a real bike on a thingie, he's adjusted it for me).

I'm off to Rome with my girlie friends in May, so my target is another stone by then. Then nice NEW SHORTS!

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OK, so I put on over the Festivities - but only a kilo, so I'm quite pleased. My aim is to lose 2 kg in 4 weeks. We're back with the Hairy Dieters, although I am still having a couple of choccies a night (as long as I've been good the rest of the day)
I'm starting swimming again tomorrow.

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I took a big bag of unwanted chocs to work with me today and oferred them to colleagues. There are always a few 'gannets' who will finish them off. The only problem is when I walk past their desk and see the bag... [Hot and Hormonal]

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My flatmate bought me a Sharon fruit today, she said she wanted to buy me chocolate coz i was feeling ill, but knew I was also trying to be healthy.

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I am back on the WW wagon as of today - having lost 3 stone, I got nearly half of it back again [Disappointed]

I have done it once, so I can do it again. I hope.

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Well done St E! And hope those feeling ill feel better soon.

Surfing Madness - what is a Sharon fruit?! and study motivation needs to come from you, I think. What little things do you enjoy (that don't contain calories?)? Also, the usual stuff about regular breaks, fresh air, lots of water and finding ways to study that suit you (I'm a visual learner and learn by talking so I did lots of brainstorm type graphs and was verbally tested by anyone I could cajole into it.)

There was just a show on TV about Cornwall and they were showing clotted cream and icecream... ooh, that sounds good but must resist!

Best of luck, All.
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Eleanor Jane Sharon fruit are also called Persimmon. They are currently one of my favourite foods.

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I reward myself for doing stuff with a new film/DVD boxset, as I too tended to give myself nutritional rewards that my body did not need!

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quote:
Originally posted by Surfing Madness:
Eleanor Jane Sharon fruit are also called Persimmon. They are currently one of my favourite foods.

Also known as Kaki Fruit.
I have seen some for sale under that name around these parts recently, and although I like them, and happily buy Sharon fruit I fel disinclined to buy kakis [Disappointed]

[ 07. January 2013, 22:42: Message edited by: Roseofsharon ]

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quote:
Originally posted by JoannaP:
I am back on the WW wagon as of today - having lost 3 stone, I got nearly half of it back again [Disappointed]

I have done it once, so I can do it again. I hope.

Of course you can, JoannaP. (I am a lapsed WW Gold member too...)
I am quite liking the new WW approach...

Onward and downwards, everyone!

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My friend Derek left me a chocolate on my keyboard. Nothing unusual there - I think he often hands out stuff he's been given - except that I was so overcome that when I logged back into the laptop, I began to type <chocolate> instead of my password. [Hot and Hormonal]

Mrs. S, ch*c*late-deprived

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One of my colleagues bought a fruit pot from our lunchtime food trolley, then realised he couldn't eat it becuase he was going to the dentist and so he gave it to me! Lovely - and far more healthy than the snack I was planning to buy from the same trolley!

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Well now - I had a huge sugary binge last night and I'm now VERY cross with myself. Where did that come from, not had one for months?

[Mad]

Maybe it was because I upped my exercise for the first time. Swimming lunch time then 45 mins on the bike thingie whilst watching Pointless. Maybe I need a 'little something' healthy before the bike ride?

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Carrot sticks!

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Whilst I was at a housing advice drop in a person I was introduced to a woman from the local council who was there to provide information about healthcare. I've been given advice a free fitness scheme (have been given a form to be filled in by my GP or diabetic nurse). I've also got an appointment to see her next week to discuss my health issues and healthy eating.

It may be worth people checking if similar schemes are available through your local councils, or health centres, especially if anyone has health issues. I never knew any of this was available until today!

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Weekly weigh in is 73.8kg which is 0.8 kg lost. Better than nothing, especially as I hadn't kicked in with a diet until today, I just increased my exercise slightly.
Children back at school now so I have more freedom to exercise and less food temptations around.

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I think I'd better join in having put on about 11lbs over the last year or so. At least I was ill over Christmas otherwise the scales would have shown I was even heavier.

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Well done H A - that's a healthy loss, methinks.

Welcome aboard, Gussie.

How is everyone doing today? I've had a bit of a crap day with about 4 1/2 hours driving leaving little time for exercise and some not brilliant food choices. I did move from wanting a chocolate bar to eating a 'light' strawberry trifle, so that's something. And I finally did the pilates DVD I bought a year ago, but it doesn't burn many calories...

Anyway, here's to a better day tomorrow!

Cheers,
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I need to do some OU work for a couple of hours and then I'll get the exercise DVD out for half hour.

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I have "retired" three jackets that are now too big (well, they are in the washing basket prior to being taken to Oxfam!), bought a new jacket which will have to work with black, grey and navy trousers- and, being a burgundy colour, it will-and resurrected from the recycling pile a black linen jacket and a blue boiled wool edge to edge cardigan jacket.

Now, I could do with some smaller trousers...

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My plan to swim on Tuesday was thwarted by the curse of "Sod it, I can't be arsed". Must try harder...!

Otherwise we're eating well, but sensibly, I think.

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Having hoovered up the last oddments of Christmas goodies I am properly back on the wagon (I think) and having a brisk 30min walk most days, so hope soon to be seeing signs that the damage of the festive season is being undone.

Unfortunately I have three 'events' looming before the end of the month:
A pub lunch for New Year with my knitting/crochet group,
A three course/venue "Grub Crawl" with our housegroup
A Ruby Wedding dinner with my brother & family (plus a hotel breakfast the following morning)
I have no control over the menu of any of them. [Ultra confused]

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I've been tiptoeing round this thread for a long time; months of comfort eating before Christmas, plus the festive season itself, has taken me to a weight I'm horrified by. [Eek!] [Waterworks]

I've also been looking at some of the reasons why I overeat, they've taken a while to come to terms with.

On track with a weight loss plan this week so far but want to see if I've lost any pounds at my next weigh-in before committing myself further...

Nen - always glad to give a box of Guylian Seashells a home; they're my favourites. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Roseofsharon:

Unfortunately I have three 'events' looming before the end of the month:
A pub lunch for New Year with my knitting/crochet group,
A three course/venue "Grub Crawl" with our housegroup
A Ruby Wedding dinner with my brother & family (plus a hotel breakfast the following morning)
I have no control over the menu of any of them. [Ultra confused]

Hopefully it won't turn out so bad. Pubs tend to have a few healthy options these days and I always see what fish is available. Hotel dinners aren't usually over-enthusiastic with portions and you might be able to opt out of some things, sauces for instance, and control the accompaniments. The breakfast might be grilled or poached. The 'grubcrawl' is slightly more difficult but you can control portions and we all need a few days off [Biased]

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Hello everyone. Mind if I join the support group?

Checking in at a starting weight of 15 stone 4 (97 kg), and a waistline that I haven't dared to check but my 38" trousers refuse to stay near my waist without the assistance of braces.

The move from 'really ought to' to 'let's get on with it' was prompted by a BBC breakfast news interview with Michael Mosley last week. Mosley, as some may know, has released a book based on his TV investigation last year into the benefits of intermittent one-day fasting. I've never had any time for fasting, either as a spiritual or health-related pursuit, but Dr Mosley's matter-of-fact explanation has persuaded me to give it a go. Basically (for the benefit of the uninitiated - I haven't checked up-thread for any previous discussion of this) you choose two days a week on which to cut calorie intake down below 600 (500 for women) and eat what you want the rest of the time.

So, here I am, a week into the campaign, and on my third fast day in that period (I'm doing Mondays and Thursdays which, coincidentally, are the days Mosley himself found to be the most convenient). And I've been surprised to discover it's not too bad an experience. 250 calories worth of slow-release carbs (porridge) in the morning forms an effective bridge to the other 300 - a bit of meat and plenty of green stuff - in the evening. I hold the remaining allowance for splashes of milk in drinks throughout the day.

I was suspicious of the 'eat what you want' part, since that's what got me up past 15 stone in the first place. But, as Mosley predicted, I've quickly adjusted to knowing when I'm full and sated, and don't crave much beyond that. Blimey.

Has anyone else tried this method, and can offer tips and caveats?

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^ Further to the above...

Ok, I've done the search & back-reading now, and am following the 5:2 adventures of Roseofsharon, et al.

35kg, Rose?! That's fantastic! And very encouraging to this beginner. [Smile]

[ 10. January 2013, 11:50: Message edited by: kankucho ]

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I'm doing the 5:2 regime. I lapsed over Christmas but have just had 2 consecutive fast days.

I've been shopping today and over the next four days I will eat 2 lamb steaks, 2 salmon steaks, 2 mackerel fillets, broccoli, carrots, onions, tomatoes, lettuce, peppers, pears, oranges, 'actimel' yogurt drinks, the remains of a baguette, plus coffee, tea and half a bottle of red wine. I will try to resist the 4 packs of crisps remaining from the 6 pack.

Tonight I have had a large cornish pasty, 2 packs of crisps and a ready-made prawn cocktail with crusty bread and half a bottle of red wine. Joy.

[ 10. January 2013, 19:10: Message edited by: justlooking ]

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quote:
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^ Further to the above...

Ok, I've done the search & back-reading now, and am following the 5:2 adventures of Roseofsharon, et al.

35kg, Rose?! That's fantastic! And
very encouraging to this beginner. [Smile]

That has taken over two years - and there's further to go

[ 10. January 2013, 21:29: Message edited by: Roseofsharon ]

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hmm... I may have to give the 5:2 thing a shot. does anyone have a link to a beginners info page? or did I miss it in here, somewhere?

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quote:
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I've also been looking at some of the reasons why I overeat, they've taken a while to come to terms with.

Nen - I recommended this book Eating Less to Boogie, a way upthread, and I think she found it helpful. YMMV of course ...

In the meantime Mr. S finished off the seashells - I wish I'd known you liked them then I wouldn't have felt forced to help him [Hot and Hormonal]

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Comet: I did a bit of reading around on the web, but there are a lot of conflicting opinions out there. I'm going to stick with Mosley, whose plan I've outlined above, and ignore everything else until I see if that works or not. I've invested £6 in his book, currently in the post.

I don't plan to get quasi-religious over the 'science' of this method — which, as Mosley notes, hasn't been thoroughly tested. The benefit to me so far (and it's very early days) has been the realisation that if I can survive an occasional day on minimal calorie intake, I can be a bit more mindful of what I'm eating the rest of the time too.

Watch this space to find out how hubristic that statement turns out to be later on.

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Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Nen - I recommended this book Eating Less to Boogie, a way upthread, and I think she found it helpful.

VERY helpful!

My fat is all in my mind (if you see what I mean) and this book is really helping me to change my mind.

I am on my second reading now as I'm a slow learner.

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Originally posted by Boogie:
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Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Nen - I recommended this book Eating Less to Boogie, a way upthread, and I think she found it helpful.

VERY helpful!

My fat is all in my mind (if you see what I mean) and this book is really helping me to change my mind.

No, I don't think I understand the concept of fat being all in the mind... I wish that was the only place mine was. [Hot and Hormonal] Maybe I need to read the book to understand.

Thank you very much for the recommendation. Even better that it's Kindle-fied!. [Smile]

Nen - Buying Now With One Click.

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Pub lunch went OK, although it turned out that there are more calories in baked sea bass than I anticipated.
But I have ended the day only 130 calories above target.

I have volunteered to make a salad for the Grub Crawl next week, so I can be sure there'll be one low-fat dish I can fill up on (Red Colesaw: Shredded red cabbage, grated raw beets & carrots, and pomegranite seeds, in a balsamic and raspberry vinegar oil-free dressing). I usually make a big sherry trifle, but if I did that wouldn't be able to resist it.

There's absolutely nothing low-fat on the menu for the ruby wedding dinner, so I'll just have to be very strong willed at breakfast and lunch. [Roll Eyes]

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That salad sounds good [Smile]

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I appear to be eating my weight in fruit in the hope that I won't eat cake and chocolate!

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Originally posted by kankucho:
... if I can survive an occasional day on minimal calorie intake, I can be a bit more mindful of what I'm eating the rest of the time too.

This is my experience too. I don't feel any desire for sweet things and have been able to cut back drastically on bread and starchy things generally. On one of the fast days I try to eat nothing solid which gives the digestive system a 24 hour break. I don't know the science behind this but it's supposed to be A Good Thing. I don't do more than 2 days of eating what I like because I like high fat savoury things and on the other eating days I try and stick to lean meat, oily fish, eggs, lots of vegetables and some fruit.

Overall I'm aiming at 7,000 to 8,000 calories over 7 days.

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Originally posted by Surfing Madness:
I appear to be eating my weight in fruit in the hope that I won't eat cake and chocolate!

Me too!

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I've been reading this thread but not posting for quite a while, but since the conversation seems to have turned to IF and the benefits of it I thought I'd finally screw up the courage to post.

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Originally posted by justlooking:
I don't do more than 2 days of eating what I like because I like high fat savoury things and on the other eating days I try and stick to lean meat, oily fish, eggs, lots of vegetables and some fruit.

Overall I'm aiming at 7,000 to 8,000 calories over 7 days.

I started doing IF at the end of September last year and have lost approximately 3 stone since then. I can't tell you exactly how much because I didn't have scales when I started and only started weighing myself in the middle of November, by which point I'd gone down two dress sizes. Since then I've lost 20lbs and am on the verge of going down another dress size, so I figure I must have lost at least as much before then.

I've done so by doing intermittent fasting, and I've been doing it in a similar way to what justlooking mentioned above.

I like to know that if I am having "eat what I want" days I really can eat exactly what I want, so I have just two of those sorts of days and I have what I feel like that day. Sometimes that is chips or something unhealthy, sometimes it is pretty healthy, that's the point - I can eat what I want. I fast three times a week, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays because those days work well for me and I fast by having just one big meal at the end of the day, around 500 - 600 calories (I'm not too strict about it). I eat lots of soup on those days, as well as lots of veggies. I find I'm mostly vegetarian on those days because I can eat more that way... The other two days a week I eat reasonably healthily and try to stick to around 1200 calories ish (give or take). I also try to do some form of exercise at least three times a week. At the moment this is normally a walk of around 3 miles or so, but I've also done yoga and aqua fit and swimming.

I use MFP to log my calories each day, and don't worry too much about the daily tariff but try to look at the average over the week, which is working well for me. I think the community boards are mostly pretty hideous and that most of the people on there seem like "diet nazis" so I mostly stay away from them, or read them with a huge barrel full of salt, but the food log and exercise log is really useful. If I do exercise on a day, then I will eat back my calories. I know it shouldn't be, but " if I go for a long walk I can have a doughnut" is a good motivator for me.

I love IF, it's totally working, it's pretty easy for me because its not about being denied anything, it's just delayed gratification, and it feels very sustainable. I also think that my current regime allows plenty of space to "step down" slowly when I'm ready to maintain rather than lose.

I have never ever dieted before in my whole life, I've always been very happy with my body exactly as it was (especially my boobs, which have decreased dramatically and for which I am in mourning) but I started thinking about it on and off over the last year and when I heard about IF realised that this was something that was totally sustainable for the rest of my life because I could still enjoy food and eat out etc if I want to with this plan, which was important to me.

If you are considering giving it a go, I'd say try it - and I'd also recommend MFP as a great way to track calories (LOVE that it will scan the barcodes of food, love love love that) and also MyFitnessPal as a good way to track your walks / exercise. I'm happy to be friends with people on MFP if anyone wants - pm me and I'll tell you my username.

I'm not going to post to this thread regularly, just thought you might like to hear from someone else for whom IF (or 5:2 or whatever you call it) is working really well.

Good luck everyone.

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Just ordered Mosley's book to my Kindle, I'd been thinking about fasting one day a week as part of a day of prayer and study and this would fit in well as I can manage the calories to fit in with my family meal in the evening. I might plan my second day as a sewing day to keep myself occupied. My general diet is quite balanced so I'll eat as normal the other days.

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I'm following a book called 'Tired But Wired' by Nerina Ramlakhan. I sleep very badly and had terrible insomnia over Christmas, so I bought this is desperation with the book token I was given. It contains an action plan for dealing with insomnia, including a diet plan:
  • Eat protein at every meal.
    Eat breakfast within a 40 minutes of waking.
    Keep well hydrated.
    Have a small snack before bed.

The scales didn't move downwards this week - but they didn't go up either! Plus, I've only had one really bad night since I started and I haven't felt the need to binge eat so far. All in all, pretty good! [Yipee]

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I've been reading up on IF through leangains and Marksdailyapple. I've been resistant because, essentially, I'm afraid of blowing it. I'm in the midst of a stress storm right now that should resolve itself by the end of tuesday, so I'm planning to start on wednesday. I'm going to try for one day a week to start, see how it feels, and then go to two. I really hope I can stick to it!

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I am struggling at the moment on two fronts:

1), Planning for Younger Son's forthcoming wedding has somehow switched my motivation to "slimming for the wedding", instead of "eating to improve my health". The latter has been working well, the former has, on many previous occasions, caused me to resent being deprived of the high fat foods I love, to cheat and ultimately to fail.

2) The consequences of Christmas indulgence - when I alternated my two <500calorie days with five very high calorie days. Now, although I am still able to keep to the two 'fasting' days, I no longer find myself satisfied with the low fat foods I had previously been eating and enjoying on the other days.

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From what I've read online about IF it would seem that having very high cal days on the 5 days can cause some difficulties with how one relates to food, as your body then craves high cal and has more of a grudge about the 2 days fasting without them. The way I'm approaching it is eating a fairly sensible everyday diet on the 5 days (which includes occasional treats). My plan is to not think too hard about food on these days as I need to be especially careful not to obsess, as I have bipolar disorder and can easily be led into addictive behaviour.

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In spite of taking no exercise at all owing to this lingering cough and illness and being a real couch potato, I still lost 1lb this week!

Now fitting into a UK SIZE 16!

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