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Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Boogie - did you make it?

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No - I lost 4 pounds


Never mind - onwards and downwards!

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Originally posted by Dormouse:
Watching the last HB episode, I was concerned to hear them talking about "the end of the diet" - I do think that you can't think like that - it has to be a change in lifestyle which affects your eaing from then on. Although they were genuinely shocked by seeing the amount of weight that they had lost measured in lard, and then trying to lift it, and struggling!! I think that is a great way of showing yourself what you have lost: a block of butter is 250g - half a pound - but it's a good demonstration to look at and think about what you have succeeded in doing when you have "only" lost half a pound one week. That's a block of butter! That's bloody good going!

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to all of that, Dormouse!

I refuse to talk about a 'diet' - a 'regime' is just about acceptable, but it has to be sustainable indefinitely. I do think that's why people have such issues with putting the weight back on once they reach their target weight, because they go back to the old ways of eating and guess what? they get fat again.

The other thing - as Dormouse alludes to above - is that it is HARD HARD HARD to lose fat - if it were easy, everyone would do it and we would all be slender. But it AIN'T. It's amazingly hard to lose even half a pound, but when you see that slab of fat you can understand why. But it's difficult to stay motivated if you think you *ought* to be losing it faster.

Finally (!) I think there's a sort of inertia or delay when people come to the end of a diet - they stay the same weight or even lose a bit more and they think, 'oh, I've got this licked' but in fact it's just their body taking time to adjust before it sighs with relief and starts building up the fat reserves again.

Sorry to go on so!

Mrs. S, visualising the packets of lard

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Originally posted by daisydaisy:
Thank you Dormouse for that reminder of what 2lbs looks like - it really does help me realise that actually 2lbs is significant.

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2lbs a week is brilliant - well done!

I will get that Hairy Dieters cookbook, sounds great.

I'm still on 1300 calories a day - and, as Mrs S says, it's a regime not a diet. I really could keep this way of eating up ad infinitum. (and it looks like I'll have to at half a pound a week!!)

Onwards and downwards!



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Originally posted by Roseofsharon:
At the weekend I got it all down and had a sort-out. It seems that "one day" has arrived, and has almost gone again, as I now have a mountain of summer dresses that are on the verge of being too big - just as the autumn arrives here.

It all has the smell of old stored clothes, so I am in the midst of washing it - can't say I'm looking forward to the ironing - and then I'll see if there's anything I want to keep before spreading the rest around the town's charity shops.

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That's deserving of another round of appplause, RoS - clear it all out, you'll feel So Much Better

Mrs. S, currently reviewing handbags - you don't grow too fat for those!

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Mrs. S, currently reviewing handbags - you don't grow too fat for those!

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Mrs. S, currently reviewing handbags - you don't grow too fat for those!

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That's true, but it's the wear inside I look for. Unless the bag is extremely beautiful I don't keep bags with threadbare linings, stains, etc.

Then again, I have only one bag which cost a large amount of money, and one other which was also expensive although not so much. The really dear one has been used only a few times. I bought it with an ulterior motive - to show to ex- Mr L and his supporters that I was perfectly capable of looking after myself and was doing a good job of it. It shrieked quality. I bought it for ex-MIL's funeral and enjoyed wearing it. OK, not a good motive but it worked for me at the time.

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DEEPLY IMPRESSED

I don't like to keep them when they show too many signs of wear but when they've been given to me, I have a hard time ditching them

Mrs. S, owner of a whole range of bags

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Originally posted by Roseofsharon:
We are not a family that throws things away, so over the years many of my "outgrown" clothes have been shoved up in the loft on the basis that I might be able to wear them again "one day".

At the weekend I got it all down and had a sort-out. It seems that "one day" has arrived, and has almost gone again, as I now have a mountain of summer dresses that are on the verge of being too big - just as the autumn arrives here.

It all has the smell of old stored clothes, so I am in the midst of washing it - can't say I'm looking forward to the ironing - and then I'll see if there's anything I want to keep before spreading the rest around the town's charity shops.
I'll have to concentrate on the ones that specialize in "vintage" clothes, as these are outfits from the eighties. Some with matching hats

And there are some even older (and smaller) clothes that will go back into the loft, because you never know...

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Originally posted by Eleanor Jane:
The hats sound cool! But I'd be very much on the throwing away side of things. Maybe see the decluttering thread for inspiration!

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Oh, I've had my turn on the decluttering thread.

Most of this stuff will be donated to charity but at the moment I'm still washing and ironing. There's far too much to dump on one charity shop all in one go, so I'm currently packing up the winter-weight clothing for the next couple of trips into town. The rest will follow in installments according to seasonality - and size.

I wore one of my old dresses for choir practice this week, which caused some comment as they are not used to seeing me in a dress, other than my concert black. I am thinking of having "one last wear" of each of my favourite eighties dresses whenever I go out, just for the fun of it, but I won't be keeping them. Apart from any other reason, I intend them to be too big in a few weeks.

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Oh, I've had my turn on the decluttering thread.

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I had a lightbulb moment just then, seeing how many of us frequent both threads. What we are all striving for is to declutter our bodies of fat, as well as our living spaces of STUFF! (though we needn't go as far as HWMBO and have our appendices out also!)

Mrs. S, wondering exactly how this helps?

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Originally posted by Eleanor Jane:
Hi All,

Some fantastic progress - well done guys!

Husband and I are back on the band wagon after an indulgent holiday in Krakow (the duck with beetroot and the plummy bread were particularly good. Plus the vodka!). I'm aiming to lose around 3kg (6ish pounds) by my birthday in early Nov.

Good luck to one and all...

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I find I'm into triple figures (kilos not stones,

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Mrs S - I don't remember ever weighing below 10stone. Once upon a time Mr RoS and I were both aiming to hit that weight, but from opposite sides. Despite all efforts he remains steadily stuck half a stone below the target and I've been up and down the scales many times and never got down anywhere near it. So well done you.

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My Hairy Bikers book should be arriving next week and I'm feeling ken!!!! Of course, that may not last.

RoS did you have any tricks to help you with your BRILLIANT weightloss or was it just sheer bloody hard work, sweat and tears?

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(so I allowed myself either a Galaxy Ripple or a pack of Buttons each day, as they are around 180 - I figured giving up chocolate entirely would make me miserable and less likely to follow through).

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I think my main downfall is eating between meals and portion size, and if I just wasn't so piggy I'd lose the blubber again.

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(so I allowed myself either a Galaxy Ripple or a pack of Buttons each day, as they are around 180 - I figured giving up chocolate entirely would make me miserable and less likely to follow through).

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It's that feeling of being deprived that has finished off most diets for me over the years, and that's why I try to keep focussed on the blood-pressure & cholesterol lowering targets to the forefront of my mind. If I start thinking of weight-loss as the reason I am eating this way I will start feeling resentful and want to 'treat myself' to things that are not doing me any good.
That being said there is no food that I forbid myself, but do I try to indulge only infrequently and in small quantities.

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I think my main downfall is eating between meals and portion size, and if I just wasn't so piggy I'd lose the blubber again.

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It's so easy to let portion size expand over time - just heap that spoon a little bit higher, just cut that slice a smidgeon thicker. That's why I'm finding MFP, and my digital scales, so helpful in keeping an accurate track of what goes into my mouth.

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Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Have you guys read
'Eating Less' by Gillian Riley?
A lot of what RoS says above echoes that book, and I found it useful. YMMV, but worth a look.

Mrs. S, weighing that muesli

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You have caused my first impulse buy of the month - it is now on my Kindle awaiting me.



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I think my main downfall is eating between meals and portion size,

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I never ever used to feel full, unless I'd really pigged out, but I have come to recognise that most of my 'hungry' feelings were actually located in my mouth and throat, not my stomach, and they can be assuaged with a hot drink* - or by finding something absorbing to do.

A hot drink after my meal also gives my brain time to register that I have eaten enough and curbs the impulse to have seconds. Nowadays, if I pay attention to my stomach, I can tell when I've had enough

* A hot drink in my case is either fennel tea or elderflower tea (I find other infusions promise in aroma far more than they deliver in taste), or black coffee.

My 'danger time' is during meal preparation - twice a day, as Mr RoS needs lots of calories - and especially if it's a dish that has several stages that involve cooking something for a few minutes before adding the next ingredient. That's not long enough to leave the kitchen, but long enough to nibble quite a lot of the tasty things that live there and are not meant for me. I haven't found any sure-fire distractions for then, so have to try using willpower.

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Have you guys read
'Eating Less' by Gillian Riley?
A lot of what RoS says above echoes that book, and I found it useful. YMMV, but worth a look.

Mrs. S, weighing that muesli

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You have caused my first impulse buy of the month - it is now on my Kindle awaiting me.

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Mrs. S, always adept at spending other people's money!

In fact, following on from the lightbulb moment above - It's All About Control! Isn't it? We want to feel in control of our lives and so we attack that problem from which ever angle we feel we need the most help with - eating too much, sinking under the weight of our possessions, Telepath attacking the Finance Monster with a big stick - whatever...

(not sure how much that helps, tbh!)

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Are you sure that's the best thing to do? I would very strongly advise you to get rid of them, rather than put them away! My view would be that if you have larger-size clothes available, then in effect you have given yourself 'permission' to put that weight back on again one day.

There's nothing like having to go out and buy new clothes a size bigger for bringing you to the point where you think 'hold on, I should be doing something about this'. I can think of at least two occasions when that has triggered in me a determined effort to get thinner. Which is why what Wodders said about 'one size fits all' is actually not a good thing (a bit like elasticated waists!).

YMMV, of course, but that's my opinion.

Mrs. S, shooting her mouth off again

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Originally posted by harmony hope:
Hi daisy daisy and Beethoven - I'm on MFP too...would you like to be friends? The more support the better I think!

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My Hairy Bikers book should be arriving next week and I'm feeling ken!!!! Of course, that may not last.

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