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Roseofsharon
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Seven weeks ago I added the 2:5 diet to the low-cal version of the Dash diet I've been following for the last 2+ years. My weight loss seems to have increased from about a kilo a fortnight (between plateaux) to a kilo a week. I can't say I've noticed any startling difference in my health - but then I hadn't noticed much difference when losing the first 25kilo.
I will be having a blood test in December and am hoping to see some difference in my bp, cholesterol and ESR results ( I started the 2:5 because I think I heard on the Horizon programme that it had a good effect on ESR, and mine has been high for years). Not sure how I will manage to continue on either regime if the results are not noticeable, as that was the point of making such dramatic changes.
I'm not sure that I'm doing the 2:5 right, though. I am spreading my 500cals over three meals, but reading a bit more about it on the 'net a number of sites say that it should be one meal a day - 24hour after your last. Not sure I could manage that, especially in the winter.
Winter is going to be difficult anyway, especially Christmas and the few weeks afterwards when the house is full of leftover goodies. Worrying about that already.
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I'd not heard the '24 hrs after your last meal' thing - I usually just eat lunch, as I think I can probably make it through the morning OK, but don't think it's fair to inflict hungry crabby grouchy me on my colleagues who didn't choose this diet. Plus I don't think I'd be at all productive at work by the afternoon as ALL I'd think about would be the next meal.
I really hope it does eventually have an impact on blood pressure, as mine is on the high side at the moment (have to have a 24hr monitor next week, ). Though I found when I lost weight before (not through this 2:5 thing) that my BP improved anyway, so even if it does improve this time I'm not sure I can credit the fasting.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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justlooking wrote quote: I've lost 3 inches from my waist
That is terrific - I was overjoyed to discover that I was, at last, a Woman with a Waist!
And when we were on holiday, doing a lot of up-and-down walking in the sun *sigh* I really felt the benefit of having shed a stone and a half. Even the 10 lbs or so I have lost since June (yes, it's a slow old process) have made a recognisable difference and that is a real encouragement to me.
Can't face fasting - as JtL says, all I can think about then is my next meal - though I do notice I am eating less than I used to, without really thinking too hard about it.
Well done everyone
Mrs. S, 11 lbs to go and a year to lose it in! ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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daisydaisy
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Congratulations to everyone who has lost visible inches. After my initial inch-loss from my waist and tummy, I haven't seen any more loss there despite seeing a difference on the scales (maybe not this week as a result of a lovely Indian meal last Friday). However, today I realised my shoes are wider than my feet need and I can wear rings again for the first time in ages, so I'm just looking in the wrong places.
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Welease Woderwick
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Rings are about the best indicator with me, my fingers seem very sensitive to my weight.
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Yes, why is it i lose weight from my fingers and my wrists and my feet and my back-- but not my stomach or my hips or my arms or my legs? If it were just more visible places... Mr Lamb reckons my butt is much smaller, but as its behind me I can' t exactly enjoy the new view.
Tho the one visible place I AM losing it is (you guessed it) the boobs. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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*bump*
Has no-one any progress to report?
Having decried the usefulness of exercise I think one of the reasons for my current plateau is that a combination of busy-ness and unsuitable weather have scuppered my usual 30 minute lunchtime walks recently
Come on peeps, I need help/encouragement/support here!
Mrs. S, wondering what else can be cut from the food plan...
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Boogie
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I haven't been on the scales recently, but I may brave them after swimming this morning - the scales there are posh ones which tell you weight, height, BMI, fat ratio and what you had for breakfast.
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Jenn.
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According to the docs I have lost 1 kg since september. Quite pleased with that. BMI is in normal range and I'm getting fitter. Unfortunately I have had to cancel my gym induction as I'm a bit poorly. Try again later
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St Everild
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Didn't get to WW last Monday as I was away visiting friends...the week before I had stayed the same, and last week I had 2 family funerals to attend, so it wasn't a good week for staying on track...this morning I really didn't want to go to WW and wasn't expecting much...but the scales say I have lost a further 4 lbs. Yay me!
I have lost the first 1/2 stone, my clothes are beginning to fit properly again and I feel really good! (And a bit smug...)
How is everyone else getting on?
St E - onward and downwards and shrinking.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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Yay to everyone!
St. E - it's so nice to fit back into clothes you'd regretfully packed away! (and isn't it just lovely to be able to think of having lost 'half a stone'?)
Mrs. S, celebrating everyone else's achievements, her own having plateau-ed
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Eleanor Jane
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quote: Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S: Yay to everyone!
St. E - it's so nice to fit back into clothes you'd regretfully packed away! (and isn't it just lovely to be able to think of having lost 'half a stone'?)
Mrs. S, celebrating everyone else's achievements, her own having plateau-ed
Yay, St. E! Impressive stuff.
Mrs. S - I'll walk in the rain if you will! I'm thinking about how to easily add more exercise to my daily routine and I'm thinking 20 min walking at lunch will help (plus let me see day light).
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Surfing Madness
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Even though I have been away for a week, and been very bad about what I ate I have stayed the same. I think all the walking I did while away paid off. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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quote: Mrs. S - I'll walk in the rain if you will! I'm thinking about how to easily add more exercise to my daily routine and I'm thinking 20 min walking at lunch will help (plus let me see day light).
Fair enough, EJ. For all the long walks at the weekends, it seems I need to keep up the mid-week stuff too. To be fair, no rain here today and the sun is shining, so I'll be grabbing my trainers at lunchtime - and hooray! Pilates is back this evening.
Mrs. S, eager co-Pilate
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I haven't been on the scales as I know it won't be good news at present but I did buy some good new shoes today - comfortable enough to walk a distance in but smart enough to wear all day in the office. I'm making plans to walk more.
Nen - still comfort-eating, but optimistic. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Eleanor Jane
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Walking is all good - I find it the easiest thing to fit into my daily routine.
I'd love to get back into yoga/ pilates/ aerobics etc but I'm out most nights and I've been away for most of the last few weekends... just too much!
Anway, keep soldiering on, All!
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Husband asked what I weighed and was when I told him. Apparently he had no idea I was that huge However, he is now actively encouraging me to lose weight, which can only be a good thing.
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Surfing Madness
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I'm happily watching the first episode of series 1 of Downton Abbey (having only started watching half way through series 2). This is my reward for having lost my first stone. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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quote: Originally posted by Surfing Madness: This is my reward for having lost my first stone.
Doesn't that feel GOOD?
I'm still wondering if I'll get into my dress for Saturday night's concert. To be fair, it's very old, and the last time I actually remember wearing it was in 2001, so I'll be very pleased if I can get the zip done up!
Mrs. S, still trudging across that plateau
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St Everild
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At my weigh in yesterday, I was somewhat surprised to discover that I had lost another 2 lbs, making 10 lbs in total so far.
I shall have to miss my meeting next week...
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Boogie
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quote: Originally posted by St Everild: At my weigh in yesterday, I was somewhat surprised to discover that I had lost another 2 lbs, making 10 lbs in total so far.
Marvellous - well done, it's a hard struggle, but worth it!
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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quote: Originally posted by Boogie: quote: Originally posted by St Everild: At my weigh in yesterday, I was somewhat surprised to discover that I had lost another 2 lbs, making 10 lbs in total so far.
Marvellous - well done, it's a hard struggle, but worth it!
Another four packs of butter!
Mrs. S, back on the Pilates and tai chi
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St Everild
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Thank you for all your encouragement, it means a lot.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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I'm so thrilled today - I am now into double figures from (at my heaviest) four figures. 9 stone 9 and three-quarter pounds!
Another milestone hit, another millstone (it feels like!) shed.
We can Do This! Think of Flausa and RoS and everyone else who has worked away so successfully at decluttering their bodies. I know it's hard and I think people underestimate/undersell how hard it is - if it were easy everyone could and would do it.
Mrs. S, full of gratitude for your encouragement
-------------------- Don't get your knickers in a twist over your advancing age. It achieves nothing and makes you walk funny. Prayer should be our first recourse, not our last resort 'Lord, please give us patience. NOW!'
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St Everild
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Well done, Mrs S...I'm delighted for you!!
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Firenze
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Meanwhile, I am getting a tad disillusioned with the MFP app. I record, as accurately as I can, what I eat and how much activity I do and it assures me that at this rate I will be practically invisible when I stand sideways in a matter of weeks.
Despite this, any actual weight loss could be measured in drachms.
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daisydaisy
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: ....it assures me that at this rate I will be practically invisible when I stand sideways in a matter of weeks.
I'm mildly amused by MFPs predictions - I'm waiting for the day that it shows me negative figures (mind you, I've a while before I might see that)/
This week I have been delighted to have lost another pound/2 packs of lard, despite 2 foodie weekends in a row and little/no exercise of note. All my weekends for the rest of the year will be pretty foodie too, so I'll be happy with that rate of loss if it means another 6 pounds lost by the start of 2013. We'll see.....
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I flit on and off MFP, but I certainly don't take their "In five weeks..." with anything other than a large pinch of salt. However, it is useful as a jolt when the prediction suddenly goes from 93 kilos to 95 kilos. I know it's only one day's worth of food, but it's a useful reminder that I haven't eaten well that day.
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St Everild
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Oh, dear...I only meant to have one square of ginger fudge, not eat the whole flippin' packet (100g...)
Oh, well, tomorrow is another day...let's hope it doesn't cause too much damage.
St E, feeling slightly sick...
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St Everild
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Sorry to double-post...
but I have just "tracked" it and I'm still within my weekly additional points allocation. Now, I must behave myself tomorrow and Sunday...and Monday is another week.
(Also, I must not stuff my face with food to stop myself getting stressy on Monday...it's going to be stressful, so I'd better just accept it.)
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by daisydaisy: I'm mildly amused by MFPs predictions - I'm waiting for the day that it shows me negative figures (mind you, I've a while before I might see that)
The one week I did lose a couple of pounds it was warning me I wasn't eating enough.
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Surfing Madness
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This afternoon I discovered new muscles..... not sure if this was when I was attempting to hula hoop or when I was attempting to unicycle....either way I am not appeasing them by eating chocolate. not helpful I know!
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Freelance Monotheist
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I've lost 1.1 kg this month, and I've been ill with a sinus-based cold, so haven't done as much swimming as I would have liked, so I'm very happy! Onwards and downwards I go!
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I use MFP to record calories and progress but I don't believe a word it's telling me about how much I should be eating or will lose. I remember the time I decided to try "eating my calories" as the denizens of the MFP forums are wont to encourage you to do, I was not impressed with the results.
Anyway I've recently started dieting again and am on the 5:2 regime. I lost weight last week but that was just through re-starting exercise, so far I've only done a day and a bit of IF. Hoping it's easier and more sustainable long term than my old calorie counting based scheme.
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St Everild
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First weigh in tomorrow after the stresses of last week...I bet I've piled on the lbs...
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Roseofsharon
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Plateau-ing again, even on 5:2. I'm on 1200 on the eating days, but am generally a few cals below that. MFP keeps saying my calorie intake is too low - maybe it's right?
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Boogie
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: Plateau-ing again, even on 5:2. I'm on 1200 on the eating days, but am generally a few cals below that. MFP keeps saying my calorie intake is too low - maybe it's right?
Maybe - 1200 is very low. How about upping the breakfast a little to kick start your metabolism for the day?
I am still on the sloooooow downward course, but I'm determined that this is a permanent lifestlye, not a 'diet' - so it's bound to be slow, I think.
Keep on keeping on!
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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quote: Originally posted by Boogie: I am still on the sloooooow downward course, but I'm determined that this is a permanent lifestlye, not a 'diet' - so it's bound to be slow, I think.
Keep on keeping on!
This!
Mrs S, all this rain doing her No Good At All!
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: Plateau-ing again, even on 5:2. I'm on 1200 on the eating days, but am generally a few cals below that. MFP keeps saying my calorie intake is too low - maybe it's right?
I would be concerned about triggering a starvation response at those levels, with the body thinking Hang on to those reserves! Got to make to the other side of this ice age!
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Does both increasing food and exercise help? I've always found I want to eat less and more healthily when I'm exercising regularly. The exercise seems to turn on the appetite controls as well as upping my metabolic rate.
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St Everild
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Well, 1/2 lb off this time...even though it has been 2 weeks since my last weigh in. I suspect my eating as been erratic...some days I have under eaten, while others I know I ave eaten too much of the wrong thing.
Still, the general trend is downwards, so it is all to the good. And I'm wearing a smaller pair of jeans, found lurking at the back of the wardrobe!
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Roseofsharon
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quote: Originally posted by Boogie: Maybe - 1200 is very low. How about upping the breakfast a little to kick start your metabolism for the day?
I usually have a very late breakfast, would eating earlier have a beneficial effect on my metabolism?
Otherwise, I have been gradually shaving calories off my meals in general by almost eliminating added fats from my cooking. Portion sizes are good, but mostly of lightly cooked vegetables. As I have usually been over my targets for the nutrients set on MFP apart from calories, fats & sodium I didn't think I was undereating.
Exercise is down, as I've been too busy to get out walking, and I've just hurt my foot so that's going to be even less
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Surfing Madness
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Keep going everyone. I don't know about other people, but I seem to do better the weeks when I am good, but still have one or two (and I do mean only 1 or 2) treats. What do other people find?
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St Everild
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Having been away on retreat for a few days, I have been unable to follow WW...I took fruit with me, and there was fruit available, but my willpower went AWOL and I ate yummy puddings etc and did no exercise. And it was the Team lunch today, and I had a Proper DInner, and a Pudding, (and 2 glasses of Merlot...ssshhh). However, I wasn't planning to have much else today, and I'll really try to Be Good tomorrow and Sunday and hope that I haven't put too much on. I bought a very nice jacket in a size smaller that I usually buy (and would have bought if it had been available...but as it was in a sale sizes were quite limited!) so I have to continue downward...
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St Everild
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...and downward I have continued. Another 1lb gone today and that takes me to my 5% target. Now to lose 10% of my starting weight!
My weigh in trousers are now too loose to be comfortable and are going in the ways to be consigned to the charity shop, and I have resurrected another pair from the back of e wardrobe which are a snug fit but not uncomfortably so.
Yay me!!
How is everyone else doing?
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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quote: Originally posted by St Everild: ...and downward I have continued. Another 1lb gone today and that takes me to my 5% target. Now to lose 10% of my starting weight!
My weigh in trousers are now too loose to be comfortable and are going in the ways to be consigned to the charity shop, and I have resurrected another pair from the back of e wardrobe which are a snug fit but not uncomfortably so.
Yay me!!
How is everyone else doing?
yay you indeed, St. E - that's fabulous!
I am just contemplating borrowing back Mr. S's braces to hold up a nice pair of trousers that are just too complicated to take in. I had them before for a pair that were 2 sizes too big - in fact, realising that that was the size I needed might have been the trigger to Doing Something About It. These are only one size too big, but have not been worn enough for me to say goodbye to them cheerfully yet.
Currently wearing an old pair of Miss S's abandoned ones, but they are GAP so no clear idea of what size they are! all I know is, they fit me now where they never would have done before. Yay to all of us!
Mrs. S, down another 12 ounces (what's that in grams - does it sound better? )
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Welease Woderwick
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How does 340 grammes sound? It sounds good to me.
I am hoping [against hope?] that the excess I acquired in UK will just drop off without any effort now I am back home...
but...
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Boogie
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Another two pounds off - 11 pounds altogether.
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Surfing Madness
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Not lost this week, but not put on. That said I am losing motivation. I'm yet again feeling hungry, but know that I am not (had plenty to eat), but not anything bad for me, I just want comfort food, coz it's cold outside. Instead i'm here to moan!
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