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Og, King of Bashan
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I've been trying to use the name Ruth on something for some time now.
I initially thought it sounded good as a dog name; not only could it say its own name, the line "Do not urge me to leave you or to return from following you. For where you go I will go, and where you lodge I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God my God" sounds like what a happy dog would say to its master. But that got rejected by the Queen of Bashan, who thought that my grandmother (Edna Ruth) might think we were naming the dog after her. (We went with Gladys.)
Ruth has gotten a little more traction as a potential name for any future hypothetical daughter, but not enough to make me think that we will ever realistically use it.
So I'm throwing it out there to the world.
It works as "Ruthie," which would make the DIL happy. And I think it is a simple contrast to a hyphenated last name- it works well for the Supreme Court Justice, at least. And you get a really nice biblical story to go with your name.
What's not to like?
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What about Martha, Alice or Margery?
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Chorister
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If there's any chance she might have red hair, don't choose Ruth as she will forever be known as 'Redruth'. However, other classical/biblical/saint's names such as Felicity, Judith (Judy), Clare, Eleanor, Eva, Martha, Catherine, are acceptable alternatives.
Cecilia would be lovely (especially for a musical family) but Simon and Garfunkel put paid to that one...
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Cecilia would be lovely (especially for a musical family) but Simon and Garfunkel put paid to that one...
I've known Cecilias, and yes, people actually do think that singing the song to them is an original thing. I would never burden someone with having to hear that song from every cheesy pickup artist she ever met.
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Zacchaeus
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Martha? Abigail?
Dorothy can be shortened to Dolly which Ihtin is very pretty.
No prophet in the Uk Daisy is the stereotypic name for a cow
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Kelly Alves
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Dolly is pretty. So is Molly. What is Molly short for?
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by Zacchaeus:
No prophet in the Uk Daisy is the stereotypic name for a cow
Is it Betsy in Canada? In the US it's either Bessy or Bossy. "Old Betsy" is a frequent silly nickname for an inanimate object, I think tracing back to David Crockett, who nicknamed his rifle that.
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SvitlanaV2
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There have been a few mentioned already, but I'm going to propose some more French names:
Amelie, Coralie, Lucy/Lucie, Magali, Julie, Nat(h)alie, Rosalie, Sophie, Amy (which has French origins)....
And I think more girls should be called Dulcie. Or Kitty.
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Uncle Pete
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Dolly is Dolores; Molly is, I think, often used for Margaret (but often on its own), Polly (at least in my family) is a diminutive for variants on Paul (Pauline, Paula, etc)
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My grandmother Gertrude was the youngest in a big family of sisters (and we have long generations in my family, so I never even met any of the great-aunts). But she had sisters called Pearl, Ruby, and Grace. There was also an Ada somewhere in that family (cf the Queen of Caria who got on so well with Alexander the Great).
Elizabeth is a great name; one always thinks of Queen Elizabeth I. And there are the variants/nicknames: Bess, Beth, and Eliza (we had a guard on the Cal basketball team by that name--the most energetic person I've ever seen, and a big favorite with the fans). I have to say though that to me Betsy doesn't have sufficient gravitas, and neither does Betty or Liz.
When choosing a name one should always consider how it's going to sound after titles: Coach, Captain, Doctor, Professor, or President. Someone called "Kaedynce" is probably going to have to surmount an extra hurdle or two along the way (that's really the name of the granddaughter of a family friend). So really trendy names and "creative" spellings should be avoided. They can make an unfavorable impression on potential employers and they can also date the bearer.
You can check out this web site to see fluctuations in popularity; "Ruby" is now making a bit of comeback, as is "Grace."
http://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=&sw=both&exact=false
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I have a new granddaughter called Lily - lovely name.
What about some of the lilting Celtic names - like Catriona, Deirdre, Ailsa, Fiona, Caitlin, and so on. Many of them are Gaelic versions of common Anglo-Saxon names, but they sound more musical somehow.
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Irish names have a tendency to get well and truly mispronounced, often as spelt, which is depressing. Better to stick with the tried and tested.
If the baby is to be born in March, one potential approach might be a name that begins with "Mar", and there are plenty to choose from - Maria, Margaret, Marian, Martha, Mara, Marjorie - which also satisfy the old-fashioned criteria - and Martina, Marcia, Marcella - and probably quite a lot more I haven't thought of.
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Initials are important too. Hubby's initials are G.A.L., which he hates, and got teased quite a bit about that when he was a kid. My ex, bless his heart, wants to name his first male child Blake Ian George. The poor kid will have to deal with being B.I.G.Higgs. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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I know of recent babies called Dulcie, Bonnie and Elsie ( short for Elspeth in that case), so they are all names out there on the names radar.
Molly and Polly are both diminutives of Mary, another nice name.
Has anyone mentioned Lucy yet ? Another name considered by us before our son appeared.
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My granny was Emmeline, my friend's granny was Eveline. Dolly can be short for Dorothy which is attractive.
And there's always Evangeline.
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TANGENT
The jockey Ruby Walsh isn't an example of a male Ruby - he chose that because, being Irish (from County Kildare) he was teased horribly about his given name of Rupert.
In UK army circles a Rupert is a newly-commissioned wet-behind-the-ears 2nd Lieutenant too...
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Dolly is also for Dorothy. I really like the name Dorothy, but the thing is, this is the thing: when I hear “Dolly”, my mind instantly adds “the sheep”.
(Actually I don’t think I could call a child of mine Dorothy in any case. If everything works out the way I’m expecting it to, my offspring need names that work in English and in French. Anything that either set of grandparents can’t pronounce is right out.)
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I've always understood that Patsy is a nickname for Martha.
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Drifting Star
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The (very few) people I've known called Patsy were Patricias - not that that rules it out as a nickname for Martha.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Dolly is pretty. So is Molly. What is Molly short for?
In my family Molly was short for Maureen
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Polly - short for Pauline - is a lovely name, but don't give her the second name Esther!!!
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I'd always understood Polly was short for Mary, which would have been far more common than Pauline.
Nobody has mentioned the name of my maternal grandmother - Dora, who her husband called Doll.
My other grandmother was Nora.
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
The (very few) people I've known called Patsy were Patricias - not that that rules it out as a nickname for Martha.
Or Patricks. Yes, really!
In my experience with Dorothys, they are usually Dot or Dottie, not Dolly
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Stercus Tauri
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Originally posted by Kitten:
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Dolly is pretty. So is Molly. What is Molly short for?
In my family Molly was short for Maureen
My aunt Molly was really Mary, but our granddaughter is just Molly. I like that name.
I knew a woman whose given name was Quo Vadis, which I thought was pretty good. She was always known as Vadis.
If our younger daughter had listened to my advice and studied the Catholic saints days websites, her son might have been Rufus, which I liked and everyone else hated. There are some good old saints out there, like Bridget.
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Drifting Star
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Florence/Florrie would work well with the criteria laid out in the OP. The -ie ending is there, and the association with Florence Nightingale adds some assertiveness while still being quite girly.
I like the way it sounds with Ruby too.
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Another Jewel name would be Beryl, although it has associations with Beryl the Peril
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Zacchaeus
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Originally posted by PeteC:
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
The (very few) people I've known called Patsy were Patricias - not that that rules it out as a nickname for Martha.
Or Patricks. Yes, really!
In my experience with Dorothys, they are usually Dot or Dottie, not Dolly
MAybe it's a geographical thing, i've known several Dolly's who all except one were dorothy's.
I have know other Dorothy's called Dot too..
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The only Dottie I've ever heard about was in a movie with Pee Wee Herman. Not a good name. Dotty means crazy here. Like naming a child Nutter or Bozo.
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Zacchaeus
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Originally posted by no prophet:
The only Dottie I've ever heard about was in a movie with Pee Wee Herman. Not a good name. Dotty means crazy here. Like naming a child Nutter or Bozo.
Dotty means eccentric here too but it is still a diminutive of Dorothy..
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I had an Aunt Dolly, whose daughter was Dot. It is possible they were both originally Dorothy.
The rest of the auntage was Lil, Ethel, Nora, Tillie and Eileen - most of which I think you hesitate to visit on a child nowadays.
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I know a young child called Tilly (with a 'y'), sounds quite current if short for Matilda, perhaps?
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Originally posted by PeteC:
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
The (very few) people I've known called Patsy were Patricias - not that that rules it out as a nickname for Martha.
Or Patricks. Yes, really!
Indeed, in the 1910's onward for many years, there was a famous cricketer called Patsy Hendren.
As for Kaedynce: A child here with a name like that is unlikely to be given the sort of education that you'd need to become a president, even one of a banana republic.
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Zacchaeus
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I know a young child called Tilly (with a 'y'), sounds quite current if short for Matilda, perhaps?
I've come across a couple of Tilly's too.And several Ebony's - none of whom were dark, one was a redhead!
Maisie, Nellie, Gertie, Trudy?
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My grandmother and her sisters were Rose, May, Elvina (called Vina) and Lucy. I know a young child Tilly (Matilda) and an Agatha and an Edith.
My own choice for a girl would have been Keziah but I was tempted by Keturah, having met an elderly lady who delighted in her name (but I had a Zadok instead ![[Biased]](wink.gif) ).
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Indeed, in the 1910's onward for many years, there was a famous cricketer called Patsy Hendren.
That surname is in my family and we were told by my grandmother, a cricketing fanatic, that there was a connection. I've never followed it up.
Grandmothers' names were Ida Ann which is hard to say together and Mabel Esther. Mabel comes from the same Latin, amo, which gives us amiable. There were great aunts who were Grace, Alberta, Vera, Esther, Hazel, May and similar.
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Originally posted by Kitten:
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Dolly is pretty. So is Molly. What is Molly short for?
In my family Molly was short for Maureen
My Grandmother was called Mollie / Molly. In her case it was a short form for Millicent.
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Originally posted by Lucia:
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Originally posted by Kitten:
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Dolly is pretty. So is Molly. What is Molly short for?
In my family Molly was short for Maureen
My Grandmother was called Mollie / Molly. In her case it was a short form for Millicent.
Milly Molly Mandy (of the story books), was Millicent Margaret Amanda, as I recall...
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My paternal grandfather (born 1909) had four sisters: Nancy, Florence, Isabella, and Jessica. My maternal grandmother (born 1911) was a Phyllis, and had as sisters Blanche, Ada, and Grace.
Bonnie has been mentioned upthread, it is usually a diminutive of Bronwen, I believe. Then there is Bridie, from Bridget.
For a strong girls' name from an earlier time, it seems to me there are always the 'virtue' ones. Faith, Hope, Patience, Prudence - and particularly excellent, IMO, Constance and Honor.
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Kelly Alves
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I personally think the virtue names are worth revisiting.
I taught two girls named Heaven and Serenity. Serenity definitely did not live up to her name, bless her.
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Amber. Beautiful timeless name and fits well with the late Victorian - Edwardian gemstone names, many of which are also good and would go well with Ruby.
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Scary as hell.
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How about Queenie? I knew a young man in the 70s whose mother was Queenie. I believe in late C19 Britain it was common in homage to Queen Victoria.
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Originally posted by venbede:
How about Queenie? I knew a young man in the 70s whose mother was Queenie. I believe in late C19 Britain it was common in homage to Queen Victoria.
Nowdays we have princesses instead.. Honest I have come across several..
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A couple more have come to mind since yesterday, older names with the all-important 'e' syllable on the end.
Felicity, Verity.
Mercy.
Trinity, if you're feeling really out there (though I doubt that's an old one coming round again)
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Trinity, if you're feeling really out there (though I doubt that's an old one coming round again)
Not that it was common before, but I Trinity has been knocked on the head by the Matrix films...unless they are named after the character.
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Og, King of Bashan
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No mention of Chastity?
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Agnes
Beatrice
Clarissa
Doris
Eleanor
Fleur
Grace
Harriet
Isabella
Joy
Kate
Louise
Mabel
Natalie
Olivia
Penelope
Quinn
Ruth
Sophia
Teresa
Ursula
Violet
Wanda
Xanthe
Yvonne
Zoe
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My great-grandmother was named Lena Joanna -- Lena from a popular novel of the day called 'Lena Rivers'. Lena is off the beaten track, but it doesn't sound too unusual to me.
My own given name is very uncommon, but I like it and never had huge problems on its account.
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