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Chorister

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I came across a version of Sudoku which is musical symbols (Musidoku). Suddenly the world didn't seem quite so frightening. [Biased]

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IngoB

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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
No, it is Photoshop!

Oh, ye of little faith! Well, actually that one was GIMPed out of two screenshots...

I have videoed myself playing (and winning...) this while explaining my method. So if you want those spoilers, you can watch this here (warning: 441 MB uncut footage, watch on broadband). I got pretty close to getting it to 4096 there. By the way, I get confused in the end and talk about not getting 2048 (which you can see right on the screen). Rather it is the 4096 I didn't quite manage to get to. It was my first attempt at screencasting and I was getting worn out a bit at that point in time. I didn't feel like re-doing it. There also some bad moves in this, in particular at one point I say I have no choice but moving up when clearly moving left is much better. But anyway, if you are trying to beat the puzzle this should get you there. [Smile]

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Ariel
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quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
I have Lumosity brain training on my iPad which I try to do each day and which I find I get better at the more I do it.

This is fun. I signed up for the free version, but my results are getting worse overall rather than better!

There will probably come a point soon when I reach an average score of 0. After that things can only take a turn for the up again (she said hopefully).

(Mornings, urgh. Sometimes trying to think can feel like trying to dance with weights tied to your legs.)

[ 06. April 2014, 09:35: Message edited by: Ariel ]

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Jengie jon

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Having played both 3s and 2048 I have come to the conclusion that 3s is quite a bit harder. Several things for this. Firstly though they are both games of getting tiles of the same number over each other, 3s has several added bits that mean it is technically more difficult.

  • To get three you need to get a 1 over a 2 and that means you cannot get a 1 over a 1 or a 2 over a 2. In other words, the bottom level is more difficult.
  • if you get the row 4444 in 2048 it goes to 88 in 3s the row 3,3,3,3, goes to 3,3,6,6
  • Added that in 2048 you slide right across the board while in 3s you move all the tiles one square at a time.

The difference for me is where I seem to improve fairly frequently on 2048 the game of 3s seems more like a perfect storm and is much more dependent on the initial set up so I go up and down like a yoyo.

In one way 3s is easier than 2048 and that is you have some idea of the next tile value and limited control over where it goes on the board.

Jengie

[ 06. April 2014, 10:42: Message edited by: Jengie Jon ]

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I love logic problems and cryptic crosswords. Sudoku are ok but become a bit boring after a while. I like to buy the logic problem books with printed grids to help in solving the problems which are good for learning how to do logic problems. I also belong to a Australian Crossword Club which sends out a monthly puzzle magazine called Crozworld to members containing cryptic crosswords so that I can get a regular 'fix'.

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Kelly Alves

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Researching 3s, found this blog comment:

quote:
And when things don't go so well, it's incredibly easy to dive in for "just one more game" (the catchy background music and peppy sounds and animations from the personified tiles themselves don't hurt, either).
I noticed that with 2048-- that little "bling!" noise is so satisfying!

[ 07. April 2014, 23:27: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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jedijudy

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
...noticed that with 2048-- that little "bling!" noise is so satisfying!

[Paranoid]

*leaves Ship to play 2048 with the sound on this time*

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Kelly Alves

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(after an hour or so hours wrestling with IPad)

Threes makes 2048 look like tic tac toe.

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IngoB

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(after an hour or so hours wrestling with IPad) Threes makes 2048 look like tic tac toe.

After about three hours of playing Threes on an iPhone - top score 10,131 with High Rank 384 so far...

That's true, but I'm not entirely convinced that it makes Threes better than 2048. I do not get the feeling that the correlation between me playing better and me getting a higher score is strong enough in Threes. Perhaps I have simply not "understood" Threes sufficiently yet, but I have the feeling that it might be just a tad too random. There's a kind of edge between random and order which allows for very compelling game play (cf. Backgammon or Poker). But Threes seems just a tad too luck-based. For example, if you just get half a dozen 1s in a row, then most of the time you are going to die soon, no matter how skilful you manoeuvre or what tactic you are using.

Another thing that Threes is lacking, which 2048 has (as indicated by the name), is a clear goal in the game, or at least a convenient way of comparing achievements (like say an online "league table"). I really have no clue how well I'm playing. I think I'm doing OK, but other than by googling what other people say about their scores it ends up being just me eking out a somewhat better score again and again.

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Amorya

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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
Another thing that Threes is lacking, which 2048 has (as indicated by the name), is a clear goal in the game, or at least a convenient way of comparing achievements (like say an online "league table"). I really have no clue how well I'm playing. I think I'm doing OK, but other than by googling what other people say about their scores it ends up being just me eking out a somewhat better score again and again.

Threes has an online high score table. On the iPhone it uses Game Center to compare you to your friends. (Not sure what it does on Android.)
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IngoB

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quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
On the iPhone it uses Game Center to compare you to your friends. (Not sure what it does on Android.)

Thanks, I've never really used Game Center before. My High Score is apparently 91,537 overall and my High Card is 262,794 overall. That's pretty sucky then. Though I bet that the distributions are heavily skewed, i.e., one can probably move up a lot with a little more...

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IngoB

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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
Thanks, I've never really used Game Center before. My High Score is apparently 91,537 overall and my High Card is 262,794 overall. That's pretty sucky then. Though I bet that the distributions are heavily skewed, i.e., one can probably move up a lot with a little more...

Indeed, that seems to be the case. Have moved up to No. 39,530 High Score (22,953) and No. 5,895 High Card (768). Less sucky.

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Kelly Alves

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(sigh)

So in all the 2048madness, Flausa ntroduced me to this.

Holy shit.

You know, I have never gotten around to watching Sherlock, and I was wondering what the huge fuss about this Cumberbatch cat was, but if there was ever a chance I would become a fan of his, this pretty much pounded that possibility into the ground. I have never grown so sick of someone's face so quickly.

I told her,"If I ever see him in person, I will probably snap,'I'm [cheering] for the otters! And don't you ever make that shouty face at me again!'"

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Ariel
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Yes, Lord Jestocost posted that earlier on the thread (sorry). I found that hard to get my head round as I had no idea what level I was on, and got pretty sick of Cumberbatch quite quickly - but sent it on to a devoted fan via her best friend.

2048 would, I feel, benefit from its own thread in the Circus where people could compare scores and notes, if someone else wants to start one. It should probably be opened up to a wider public [Devil]

Does anyone have any other enjoyable logic puzzles, brain-teasers, etc they'd recommend? Some fun suggestions on this thread so far.

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Cunberbatch is brill as ab actor specially in radio programs. I would get tired of looking at him and would not wish to have him installed permanently on my puter!

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:

Does anyone have any other enjoyable logic puzzles, brain-teasers, etc they'd recommend? Some fun suggestions on this thread so far.

Don't sniff at me-- I think good ol Candy Crush and Angry birds are actually magnificent tools for increasing your focus and hand-eye coordination.


Especially the latter-- there is a lot going on in that game as far as geometry, memory and precision.

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Angry Birds is like un-engineering...find the weak point and deconstruct the little framework the piggies have made out in the wilderness.

It's also fun to beat Kelly. [Razz]

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Kelly Alves

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Enjoy the feeling while it lasts. When I can afford to buy power ups again, you're toast. In the meantime,playing without is only making me DEADLY!

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jedijudy

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Yeah, yeah. Sharkshooter tries to beat me, too. [Big Grin]

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Lucia

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Yesterday I made it to the 2048 tile! The pull to play it has diminished now...weird.... [Paranoid]
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Ariel
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OK. Anyone wanting to discuss scores, looking for a new game to be addicted to, lure others into wasting chunks of their life, etc, should visit the Circus thread on 2048 and post their scores there.

It deserves to be introduced to a wider public. [Biased]

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Ariel
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If anyone likes Lumosity, they may also like the Cambridge Brain Sciences pages.
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I like the free version of Lumosity but am starting to get a bit bored with the games and longing for something with a bit more variety. I'll have to have a go at that one you've mentioned, Ariel.

I love cryptic crosswords, codewords, logic puzzles and thrashing certain people (mentioning no names) and being thrashed in turn by other certain people (mentioning even more no names) at online scrabble and other games.

I'm trying to rediscover my linguistic skill, too, by using Babbel to relearn a bit of Turkish, though that's going far too slowly for my liking as I keep getting distracted!

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Ariel
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I agree about Lumosity. The CBS pages are more demanding and I'm enjoying them a lot so far (also you can come back whenever you feel like it). The Hampshire Brain Tree is proving a bit addictive. I think you'll enjoy the site.

[ 12. April 2014, 19:20: Message edited by: Ariel ]

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More relaxing than stimulating, my on-screen time waster is www.jigzone.com, the challenge to beat the supposed 'average time' which is rubbish. You can choose to break the picture in to any number of pieces from 6 to 247; since I always do the 67-piece I know where all the pieces go and have my own system of finding them. This compensates for a bit of time wasted by a slightly shaky hand.

GG

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I could have written your post, GG. Spatial and visual ability for me are much lower than verbal so I use this everyday to help develop things. It sounds as if we generally do the same version of the puzzle. Sometimes I shake things up and do it 67 piece, then choose a different pattern of same puzzle. That usually takes me longer.

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Kelly Alves

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OO, forgot all about that site! I like it, too!

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Thank you for introducing me to that site, I think...

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I haven't tried this, and probably won't, but you can now enroll at Hogwarts online.

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ken
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Been relaxing by making some lego technic kits.

For me that counts as mental stretching. I'm good with words and software and maybe even some kinds of music. But making things? Machines with moving parts? Not something my brain is very fitted to. So playing with toys with gears is maybe like someone else doing a crossword or sudoku.

So next thing is a Very Bog Lego Mobile Crane. With 8-wheel drive and a differential gear box. You build yourself. Maybe after that I'll understand how differentials work.

Or maybe not. I get frustrated with learning by doing. I think "Don't show me, tell me - its quicker". I have to describe things in words to understand them. Make up little stories to explain diagrams or equations. A picture is worth a thousand words, but its a lot easier to make up a thousand words than one decent picture.

So perhaps next to next the Lego robots? If I can afford one. Programmable and all. Computers and robots and stuff are a sneaky trick we've played on the world, turning problems of mechanics and mathematics and business and logistics and accounting and other such tedious stuff into problems about words and text, which are much simpler to deal with.

So here goes the mental stimulation...

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I don't think anyone has mentioned Majong yet. It's 'just' a matching game, I realize, but Ive found an awfully good one: Majong connect 2. There's a learning curve to this one, but keep at it. I despise the cartoonish Majongs, but this one is good. I've learned Chinese characters 1 - 10 by playing. [Smile]

Stifle the drum beat tho!

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I have been using a free Mahjong App on my Android phone during the morning and evening commutes. Nearly done them all at least once, need to look for something different. Any suggestions?

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Futoshiki.

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I have just done the National Numeracy Challenge, which really made my brain hurt; it has been a long time since I have had to think about percentages and probability in that sort of detail - but it was also fun. I now have some training to do, which I hope will also be stimulating.

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quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
I have been using a free Mahjong App on my Android phone during the morning and evening commutes. Nearly done them all at least once, need to look for something different. Any suggestions?

That site tells me, "You have no devices" LOL. Similar to the Facebook message, "You have no friends" [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
Been relaxing by making some lego technic kits.

For me that counts as mental stretching. I'm good with words and software and maybe even some kinds of music. But making things? Machines with moving parts? Not something my brain is very fitted to. So playing with toys with gears is maybe like someone else doing a crossword or sudoku.

In my mind, the crosswords and sudoku are just conveniently portable replacements for the left-brain work you get with Lego.
[Big Grin]

In my line of work, I gt to play with Lego a lot but I have never played with the tech kits yet. Now I am desperately yearning to do so.
I was thinking it over the other day, and realised I spent a lot of time in the block area when I was a kid. Not that I didn't play with dolls and stuff, i would just consistantly drag the dolls and stuff to the block area. I liked making domino mazes and playing with tangrams, too.

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Just tried 2048.

Not for me. Bored before I finished my first game. I don't WANT to win it.

Unlike that damn Geoguesser thing that I was introduced to by the Ship a few months back...

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Kelly Alves

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Oh I am back on that treadmill. I just used up all my free levels on the iPad version.

I have noticed I am a lot more map- aware than I used to be. I'm not at the point where I could draw a perfect map of Eastern Europe, but I have a lot better idea where those countries are now than when I started.

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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.

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Ian Climacus

Liturgical Slattern
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Gosh...I'm pretty poor at that 2048. And I did give it a few goes! [Help]

That Geoguesser is good fun.

I may look into Lumosity; thanks for the posts on it. I recently signed up with Cambridge Brain Sciences which I am enjoying -- though I may be lowering the Australian right-handed IT Professional group ranking for any researchers with my feeble scores. [Smile]

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