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quetzalcoatl
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Storm force 11 or 12 in the Irish Sea today. Batten down the hatches.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Don't forget though, there's an election looming. Man of the people, and so on, never hurts. But I think they are all out in their wellies at the moment. Vote for me, I got really really wet in Somerset/Thames Valley.
You know it's serious when the politicians turn up. There's a page in today's Metro with four pictures of Cameron, Miliband, Boris and Nigel Farage all out in their wellies in Floodland, so you can compare their different approaches. Enjoy.
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Stejjie
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Originally posted by Ariel:
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Don't forget though, there's an election looming. Man of the people, and so on, never hurts. But I think they are all out in their wellies at the moment. Vote for me, I got really really wet in Somerset/Thames Valley.
You know it's serious when the politicians turn up. There's a page in today's Metro with four pictures of Cameron, Miliband, Boris and Nigel Farage all out in their wellies in Floodland, so you can compare their different approaches. Enjoy.
Can't help thinking that if my house/village/town got flooded and I was trying to deal with it, the last thing I'd want is some politician plus assorted camera crews, reporters, photographers, hangers-on etc. walking around sticking their noses in - they'd just get in the way (some might say as per usual - I couldn't possibly comment about that... ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif) )
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Chorister
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Reading the experiences of people from the Somerset Levels on FLAG (Flooding on the Levels Action Group), it's practical and financial aid they need from these politicians rather than talk (and photo opportunities).
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Barefoot Friar
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According to local news, South Carolina, north Georgia, and north Alabama are closed. I was supposed to go to a conference in Atlanta this weekend, but it was postponed to the end of April. So I'm home, waiting for the cold rain to turn to ice and then snow. None of that particularly bothers me, except that ice usually means loss of power.
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Sleepwalker
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Originally posted by Jane R:
(missed the edit window) We had floods after snow, but then we usually do get floods in winter here. You could be right about the effect of the snow melting gradually - we had a foot of snow in 2009-10 too and I don't remember the floods being as bad as expected when it eventually melted.
We've got off fairly lightly this winter - so far.
Same here, although we've just been living through a Red Warning windy evening which hasn't been at all pleasant. North Wales got it worst by the sounds of it with 108mph gusts recorded on a few occasions within a four hour spell. I think our highest gusts were around the 70mph mark but I thought the roof was coming off. The room shuddered, which was a bit concerning. Still, we have retained power unlike some houses in my town and indeed around 8000 other people in the region. Rain wasn't the issue and so there have been no floods inland and thankfully for the coastal towns the tide was out. Had it been a high tide then there would have been coastal flooding with the wind speeds recorded. Absolute chaos on the motorway and rail networks though.
I think the next storm is due in on Friday/Saturday.
Deep joy.
[ 12. February 2014, 20:43: Message edited by: Sleepwalker ]
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Bishops Finger
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The usual gales/rain here today, but a quiet, mild, and moonlit night at the moment.
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) for all those affected by the floods in other parts of the UK.
A new (and stout) wooden gate recently installed across a path along the south side of the church has now been blown down three times (back to the drawing-board, I think!). The (almost) incessant south-westerly wind and driving rain has, at last, penetrated the church building, and the interior wall of the south aisle will need re-whitewashing when (if?) the weather ever improves for more than a day or so. So what? you may ask - but it's taken 105 years for this to happen.....
Oh, and a massive hole (50' deep or 15' deep, depending on which newspaper you read) has appeared in the middle of our local motorway. According to one report, it might be a dene-hole, ostensibly caused in times past by those bloody Danes digging in our English chalk - but what can you expect from People Not Like Us? Maybe the bad weather is down to those awful Bulgarians or even the egregious Romanians? Stealing our fine old English winter weather from under our noses.....
.......I'll get me coat.
However -
CallmeDave is here to save!
Never fear! Dave is here!
Has your house been washed away?
Fret ye not! Our Dave will pay!
Ian J.
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Penny S
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I think the reports that it is a sinkhole rather than a denehole are likely to be more correct. Looking at the pictures, it seems that that stretch of the road is in a slight cutting, which would mean that any denehole would have shown up during the building process and been dealt with (and they weren't dug by Danes - most are in areas where the Danes weren't active, and some were being dug as recently as the 19th century). Looking down the hole, it looks like sand above the chalk, though if the map is right, the BGS geology map shows Clay-with-Flints. Sinkholes can form under either, where water gets through to dissolve the chalk, and the road formation could have directed water from the surface into one spot - Iain Stewart, last week on the TV showed how a clay capping to a void can give way suddenly. (I've been taking an interest in this subject because of a curious depression near my back door - I think it's OK, but the water does drain away after filling it rather quicker than I would expect through clay.)
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Penny S
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It looks, from yesterday's local news, that the hole has been positively identified as a denehole. This is good, because it has a defined structure with a known depth and lobes opening out from the bottom. On the other hand - how the dickens did the road builders miss it? The road is in a slight cutting there, so the machinery should have cut across the shaft (the top usually widens out, presumably because after it is left, the overburden drops in). All I can think is that they decided to leave it because it was in the centre reservation.
Meanwhile, another hole has opened up in a garden nearer London, and the householder is frantic because the insurance doesn't cover it as it doesn't threaten the house. Two holes have appeared in school grounds in the Medway towns, and another in a rugby ground. That one is odd - the TV showed a groundsman pouring sand into a hole about a metre across from a wheelbarrow. He had already filled it to within a turf's depth of the top, and it was bordered by a fringe of lifted turfs. Can't have been very big.
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Nicolemr
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*sigh* More snow here. Someone please make itgo away.
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The5thMary
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I know it's not very Hellish but I'm sitting here in shorts with two open windows in our office, feeling the cool breeze waft in, the cool, coolness of 45 degrees Fahrenheit in Atlanta, GA. Today it got up to 62. Last week we were under a "catastrophic" weather "event" with snow/ice/more snow. Now I just have to brace myself for the upcoming tornado season... sigh...
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Penny S
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And in Hemel Hempstead. Watford (actually a place called Dugdales, which might mean something) and Ripon, other holes have opened. In Hemel it is huge, under homes recently built on a brownfield site. (I suspect inadequate preparation of the site to remove voids.) Some people have been allowed in for a half hour to grab what they can, others not at all. Some homes are expected to be demolished. Heartbreaking.
Ripon is over deposits of gypsum which regularly dissolves and forms sinkholes. One is believed to be the source of Lewis Carroll's idea of the shaft Alice falls down, since he lived there for a while.
It makes me start thinking about what I might grab if I had only half an hour. There's a lot of family stuff which I feel responsible for.
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