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Anglican't
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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
quote:
Originally posted by deano:
...typical socialists... one out, all out...


Its called loyalty.
If you're working in a closed shop with an open ballot it isn't loyalty - it's fear.
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Spike

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican't:
quote:
Originally posted by ken:
quote:
Originally posted by deano:
...typical socialists... one out, all out...


Its called loyalty.
If you're working in a closed shop with an open ballot it isn't loyalty - it's fear.
Hey, welcome to the 1970s everyone

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Penny S
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deano, I don't doubt that she was popular among many, but not usually Labour voters. Whom one would have expected Labour, even New Labour, PMs to be courting. No Thatcher admirers would be drawn to Blair or Brown, however often she welcomed them. Those, and they were many - she didn't always win the popular vote, did she - who opposed her, would not have been that happy to see those who should have been her opposition showing court to her. She wasn't that popular in my circles - not extremely of the left, either.

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Anglican't
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quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
No Thatcher admirers would be drawn to Blair or Brown, however often she welcomed them.

Who voted Labour in 1997? Many of them, I imagine, had previously voted Conservative in the 1980s.
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Penny S
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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican't:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
No Thatcher admirers would be drawn to Blair or Brown, however often she welcomed them.

Who voted Labour in 1997? Many of them, I imagine, had previously voted Conservative in the 1980s.
In which case, did they still admire her? Surely her most fervent admirers would not have been floating voters in marginal seats, would they?
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I did and I haven't - would rather cut my balls off.

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Anglican't
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quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
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Originally posted by Anglican't:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
No Thatcher admirers would be drawn to Blair or Brown, however often she welcomed them.

Who voted Labour in 1997? Many of them, I imagine, had previously voted Conservative in the 1980s.
In which case, did they still admire her? Surely her most fervent admirers would not have been floating voters in marginal seats, would they?
Her 'most fervent' admirers, perhaps not. But there are plenty of people in the country who admired Mrs Thatcher who went on to vote Labour in 1997.

I suspect people on this board (myself included) take a rather dogmatic and tribal view to politics, but that isn't necessarily how 'real' voters see things.

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Anglican't
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
I did and I haven't - would rather cut my balls off.

Alas, She can no longer stand for election, so I'll put my kitchen knife away.
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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican't:
I suspect people on this board (myself included) take a rather dogmatic and tribal view to politics, but that isn't necessarily how 'real' voters see things.

This. In spades. Hence my reference to the "unreachable mass" above.

They make their own mind up, usually based around the centre. If they feel poor they vote Conservative, if they feel uncomfortable because they are not poor, they vote Labour.

I don't like it - as a Conservative through and through - but I understand it. I'm not sure the left does though.

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leo
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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican't:
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
I did and I haven't - would rather cut my balls off.

Alas, She can no longer stand for election, so I'll put my kitchen knife away.
You're still in with a chance - I meant that i didn't vote Tory, not that I didn't vote specifically for Thatcher.

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Shame she couldn't have been that rude to Bob Crow when he was alive ...

How do you know who was and was not "rude" to Bob Crow when he was alive?
Many of us saw Bob Crow in the flesh, if only because of his habit of travelling by London Underground.

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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
She would appear to have reached the age of 39 without having learned either basic good manners or discretion.

Regardless of your opinion of Bob Crow, it is shocking that anyone should just die at the age of only 52 and for this self-publicist to choose the occasion of a sudden death to come out with such a tasteless tweet is inexcusable.

are you going to try to teach "basic good manners" and "discretion"?
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by aunt jane:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Shame she couldn't have been that rude to Bob Crow when he was alive ...

How do you know who was and was not "rude" to Bob Crow when he was alive?
Many of us saw Bob Crow in the flesh, if only because of his habit of travelling by London Underground.

Oh for goodness sake, I suggested that as it would have given Bob Crow a chance to respond.

Do read for comprehension. Just once.

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posted by aunt jane
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are you going to try to teach "basic good manners" and "discretion"?
No.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
posted by aunt jane
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are you going to try to teach "basic good manners" and "discretion"?
No.
And definitely not here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Do read for comprehension. Just once.

You're setting the bar a bit high, aren't you?

Though, it's possible that a limbo pole would be a bar set too high to get over.

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aunt jane
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returning to the original point of this thread

There once was a woman named Katie
Whom it was the fashion to hate-y
For the trolls that she got
She cared not a jot
But she really upset some Shipmate-ys

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That is one of the worst poems I have ever read. And I've read McGonagall.

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Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings? Is that you?

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quote:
Originally posted by aunt jane:
returning to the original point of this thread

There once was a woman named Katie
Whom it was the fashion to hate-y
For the trolls that she got
She cared not a jot
But she really upset some Shipmate-ys

I'm sorry but [Projectile] Seriously, that's just [Projectile]

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