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Martin60
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Hi Bee Ay
This is probably long overdue. I invite you to a full, open laying down of rhetorical arms here. Mine. Please do as you will.
I am guilty of being argumentative, no matter how one dresses it up as sophomoric rhetoric, with you on the Satanic rites (sic) and other threads on the social gospel and evangelism.
I'm very guilty of being a leopard whose spots don't change as I wildly oscillate from right to left.
So, for a start, can I ask what it was about my attitude to Associate Justice Clarence Thomas that transgressed Matthew 7? I like him. Don't agree with him, but I like him. Damn likable brilliant guy, much like yourself I'm sure. Sexual power abuse excluded. And yeah, had beams in my eye.
There's a Styx question on my condescending ad hominem of you as 'sweet' in invoking it.
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Beeswax Altar
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You don't know Clarence Thomas yet dismissed him as patriarchal. Why? Because of Anita Hill? Maybe, she was lying. The same people who trashed Clarence Thomas had no problem coming to the defense of Bill Clinton.
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Martin60
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Because he's patriarchal? She didn't lie. He oozes patriarchy, he is the epitome of patriarchy, the best that Christendom has. He was married at the time. A lapsed Catholic. Altogether a very real, wise, broken, representative, weak, foolish, highly qualified man. A bit like Richard Fish in Ally McBeal. And yeah, Bill Clinton. I loved Bill. He caused the Rwandan genocide.
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Beeswax Altar
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Yes, she lied.
Bill Clinton didn't cause the Rwandan Genocide.
Everybody knows Tony Benn caused the Rwandan Genocide.
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-Og: King of Bashan
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Lyda*Rose
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Beeswax Altar: quote:
Yes, she lied.
You know this how?
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Beeswax Altar
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Same way Martin knows Clarence Thomas lied and Hill is telling the truth.
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Barefoot Friar
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[Aside]I keep thinking Beeswax Altar is Bob Two-Owls.[/Aside]
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Beeswax Altar
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Dang it
I changed my avatar because Yonoton used my last avatar. Forgo Bob Two Owls uses this one. Off to search for another avatar.
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-Og: King of Bashan
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Beeswax Altar
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How about this one?
Anybody using this one?
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-Og: King of Bashan
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orfeo
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quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
How about this one?
Anybody using this one?
Congratulations. You may well have unearthed an avatar sufficiently tasteless that no sane poster has thought to use it before.
EDIT: And just like that, someone comes and takes the rug out from me right while I'm typing that statement.
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I'm fairly sure it's a snippet from a Gauguin painting. I never liked Gauguin much. Much more of a Cezanne fan myself. Which will please Sioni no end.
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Beeswax Altar
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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Yep, saw it this week, though I can't remember who was wearing it just now.
Damn
I'll have another go.
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Beeswax Altar
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How about this?
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The Silent Acolyte
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Beeswax Altar, I love you too much to let you wobble around like this.
Your own 64x64-bit icon isn't that hard to rustle up.
You should adorn your rhetoric with something better than what you can scrounge up by rummaging around in Simon's odd-lots and seconds bin.
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Mertseger
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Beeswax Altar: quote:
Yes, she lied.
You know this how?
My pastor-at-the-time's dad testified in the hearings (p553-573ish of the transcripts "Mr. Kothe") but that pipeline to the story did not really furnish us any additional details: his dad worked closely with and admired both of them and could not conceive of the harassment having happened. But blatant sexual harassment is often hidden, buried and secret. I tend to believe that it probably did happen in this case, if only because I have seen it happen it other situations by people who were otherwise good, functional and otherwise ethical in the rest of their lives.
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The Body of Christ,
The Goddess of Body,
The Manifest Song of Faerie.
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Martin60
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That's how.
Clinton's - Christendom's - failure in Somalia led directly to the Rwandan - Christendom - genocide.
And how false is my Jesus?
Is it that the Father and the Holy Spirit are NOT in His express image? And that He WAS the OT God the Killer and will be at His return?
Or is it even worse than that? In Him I see righteousness equate to social justice?
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Beeswax Altar
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quote:
originally posted by MartinPC Not & Ship's Biohazard:
That's how.
Oh OK
Well, I believe Thomas because I know a guy who who has seen others falsely accused of sexual harassment.
So...we are right back to me believing what I believe for the same reason you believe what you believe. You pass judgment on Clarence Thomas based on speculation. I pass judgment on Anita Hill based on speculation. Neither one of us have any business passing judgment on people we don't know. The Jesus of the Gospels was opposed to such things. Martin's Jesus is OK with Martin passing judgment on anybody that Martin doesn't like. I'd be concerned if I thought your Jesus existed anyplace outside your own head.
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originally posted by Martin PC Not & Ship's Biohazard:
Clinton's - Christendom's - failure in Somalia led directly to the Rwandan - Christendom - genocide.
The UN is Christendom? Huh...I suspect all of non-Christian nations in the UN will be upset by that. Perhaps, they'll take solace in the fact that you sprinkle the word Christendom throughout your posts simply because you like the sound of it. Your definition of Christendom, to the extent you even have a consistent definition of Christendom, has little to do with the actual definition of the word.
Now, if you have an actual argument that Somalia directly caused the Rwandan genocide, I'll listen. As it stands now, I can just say no it didn't and be done with it. I'll bet that should you actually attempt a reasoned defense of that assertion it will support my contention that you are behaving as self-righteous hypocrite. I'm not holding my breath you'll attempt an actual defense of your assertion. Chances are I'll get more vague blather justified by more vague blather.
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originally posted by Martin PC Not & Ship's Biohazard:
Is it that the Father and the Holy Spirit are NOT in His express image? And that He WAS the OT God the Killer and will be at His return?
Your Jesus is false because it ignores the parts of the gospel you don't like. A view of Jesus that ignores large portions of the gospels is a false Jesus. I'm only interested in a view of Jesus that takes all four gospels seriously.
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originally posted by Martin PC Not & Ship's Biohazard:
Or is it even worse than that? In Him I see righteousness equate to social justice?
It's worse because you come off as a self righteous hypocrite concerned more with asking the government to force others to follow your Jesus while giving yourself a pass. Social or otherwise it's an easy gospel for you to follow. How convenient that your Jesus comes to challenge others while at the same time making you feel all so right on for not being like all those
sinners. You come across as much a self righteous hypocrite as any Pharisee the Jesus of the Gospels encountered.
And that's sad because I don't think you are. I think you are a man hurt by the Christianity of his past lashing out by adopting the exact opposite position. I sympathize with that. I've been in that position myself. Turning into a self-righteous hypocrite is not the answer. Staying a fundamentalist but adopting new fundamentals is not the answer.
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Evensong
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Oh Lord have mercy that one's terrible Beeswax!
Take TSA's advice and get you an original. You suck at choosing the givens.
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Beeswax Altar
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You and TSA are more than welcome to suggest an avatar, Evensong.
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Caissa
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Clarence Thomas should be called to Hell for most of his SCOTUS votes.
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Beeswax Altar
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Fine
Call Clarence Thomas to Hell for his SCOTUS votes. If I called every federal judge to Hell for decisions that I didn't like, Hell would have to be harrowed every couple of days. But knock yourself out.
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Caissa
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Nah, as a Canadian, Clarence Thomas provides me with endless bouts of laughter.
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Jack o' the Green
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quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
How about this?
It rings a vague bell, but nothing definite.
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Martin60
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Had your rabies shots BA? I LIKE Thomas. As I keep saying and you keep ignoring. Like much else.
Why are you lying about my Jesus? Me too of course, but that's nothing. But why my Jesus?
How can you do that?
You're a liar Beeswax Altar.
A blaspheming liar. That makes me triply guilty of that by definition.
But you are a liar.
Fancy that. I've let myself get angry about that.
Well I better say that I forgive you BA.
But the feelings won't follow for a while.
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Beeswax Altar
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No, you are a liar.
See we can do this indefinitely.
No point to it really.
But whatever floats your boat.
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Beeswax Altar
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quote:
Originally posted by Yonatan:
quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
How about this?
It rings a vague bell, but nothing definite.
Bastard ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Jack o' the Green
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Sorry, couldn't resist! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Be at peace, your 'Sherlock' avatar is yours again.
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Beeswax Altar
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Thank you very much.
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-Og: King of Bashan
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Kelly Alves
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If Hell were a sex toy shop, this thread would be the blow-up sheep.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Holy moley, Kelly, but you just made me inhale my bedtime cocoa.
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
If Hell were a sex toy shop, this thread would be the blow-up sheep.
That was baaaaaad
(I'll get my coat)
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Ariston
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
If Hell were a sex toy shop, this thread would be the blow-up sheep.
Something that only gets purchased for bachelor parties and 18th birthdays, an embarrassment to even the most jaded, and explodes spectacularly during its first shame-faced and desperate solitary use?
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Kelly Alves
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Happens to the best of us, my friend.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Kelly Alves
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
... and explodes spectacularly during its first shame-faced and desperate solitary use?
Wait a doggone minute!
quote:
G: Double Bonded Seams
The Love Ewe is designed to withstand the rigors of a shepherd’s passions, with double welded seams to allow for the exhausted collapse of a post-coital 200 pound man.
Source: it would be really hilarious if this was NSFW, but I supposed it could be.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Honest Ron Bacardi
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I suspect Ariston may be using methane to inflate his model. That's got to end in tears.
Best stick with the example of this thread and stick to helium. quote:
Industrial grade inflation port makes the Love Ewe last longer. The Love Ewe’s nozzle is conveniently located on her voluptuous bottom.
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lilBuddha
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Inflatabeastiality. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif) This thread has sunk to a new low, even for Hell.
Well, at least we know what floats Ariston's boat.
Not that we are judging, mind....Oh Hell, yes we are. Jesus Christ on a unicycle, that is just weird. Hey quetz, got a patient for you.
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Lyda*Rose
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Someone should invite Desert Daughter to join the fun. ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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orfeo
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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Jesus Christ on a unicycle, that is just weird.
So is Jesus Christ on a unicycle.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
If Hell were a sex toy shop, this thread would be the blow-up sheep.
Why do I suddenly miss Spiffy?
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Ariston
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Because you really need something else to haunt your dreams forever, this is what I get for clicking the "games" link in that site Kells linked to.
You're Welcome.
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quetzalcoatl
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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Inflatabeastiality. This thread has sunk to a new low, even for Hell.
Well, at least we know what floats Ariston's boat.
Not that we are judging, mind....Oh Hell, yes we are. Jesus Christ on a unicycle, that is just weird. Hey quetz, got a patient for you.
No thank you; we've had a surfeit of sheep, something to do with all the Welsh people in the area. Now goats and chihuahuas - bring 'em on.
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Chances are the reason you are buck naked with an inflatable sheep is that you can’t handle sex with other humans or real sheep for that matter. The last thing you need at this point is a cavernous ovine vulva silently belittling your manhood.
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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Firenze
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Now goats and chihuahuas - bring 'em on.
Lot of chigoahuas in your area? (Chigoahua = small, aggressive, rank-smelling dog, butts you in the ankles a lot).
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quetzalcoatl
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No, chigoahuas are a new delicacy to me. As are also cavernous ovine vulvas, but I shall see if Heston Blumenthal has any interesting suggestions for them.
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orfeo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
Because you really need something else to haunt your dreams forever, this is what I get for clicking the "games" link in that site Kells linked to.
You're Welcome.
I swear one of them mooed.
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Evensong
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quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
Thank you very much.
Phew. All is now right with the world.
Yet avatar guessing could have been fun.
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Beeswax Altar
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I do like that picture.
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Martin60
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What parts of the good news do I ignore then Father? You ignore all of it as far as I can see. Treating Jesus as God's hippy holiday.
And how, Father, am I a self-righteous hypocrite Father? What do I pass on? I have no wealth to redistribute apart from the 9 year old Passat, the laptop, six grand in the bank. And my left hand can know no more Father.
What impresses me Father, is that your flock needs no tending Father.
Clinton, a Christian, crusaded in Muslim Somalia, recoiled and signalled to Rwandan Christians, including priests like yourself Father, that they could murder another million Christians in a hundred days if they like.
So they did.
Father.
I should regret this Father. But the trouble is, Father, I don't. That concerns me.
How to love my enemy.
Don't send this for a start, I feel a still small voice saying.
It upsets me Father. But it doesn't bother you at all does it? That's what it looks like.
Yeahhhh. Love has to be one way doesn't it.
What an interesting experience.
God bless you Father.
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