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Welease Woderwick

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The dilemma I am in is that I have nearly 1400 photos on Flickr and I am loathe to go through the process of finding them all and doing all the stuff to get them ready then loading them on another site.

But I also loathe the hideous new Flickr format.

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by geroff:
Wnat has happened to Flickr? - if you follow links to it it is horrible.

They redesigned it and it is horrible. A lot of people have left - you have no option to change the display to any other view or back to what it was.

I'm thinking about moving to Pbase, though it's a paid account. I deleted everything from my account on Flickr - all my stuff was backed up on USB sticks anyway. For the time being, I'm still on 365, though not daily, but photos never look as good uploaded there as they did on Flickr before the change.

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I opened a Flickr account only last week when I discovered they were giving you 1 TB of free storage space. I thought it was just me that couldn't understand it. It is awful.

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<Disclaimer: not-a-proper-camera-question>

I wonder if any shipmates have personal experience of the various accessory lenses available for smartphones (NOT iPhones)? Like this for instance.

I've got other cameras, but the convenience aspect appeals.

What think ye?

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I was on Flickr for ages and then family made a closed group to share photos privately. Looks like we need something else. I'm reluctant to use facebook which was out first though as I really don't like the idea of it. I opened an account before we moved to flickr, but don't touch it.

I used to use Picasa many years ago and then could not get into my account and they kept telling me there was nothing wrong with it. The photos I posted on a blog from it are still visible so it must still work, I just can't get into it. Haven't liked Photobucket from many years ago. Seemed clunky to me but it may have improved over years.

We may just need to get a family webpage and password protect it to family.

I agree with everyone else's comments about Flickr. Well and truly slidden downhill.

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FWIW smugmug is run (I'm pretty sure) by the same folk who do www.advrider.com

You could spend your money in worse places.

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More from the Olympus TG-2 waterproof/tough camera - I can now vouch for its waterproofness [Paranoid] although increasingly I'm less than completely enthused with how it performs in comparatively low light conditions as the autofocus routinely struggles. However, given you'll likely have it when you're places few other cameras will continue to function it remains my preferred 'do all' camera. And I believe a sketchy photo* is better than no photo.

Don't forget to rinse off the salt water. [Biased]

A rock spire off the east coast of Bell Island, Newfoundland, north of where the ferry to Portugal Cove docks. It's probably 7-8 meters high and is noteworthy as behind is one of the rare places you can actually land a boat on Newfoundland. Lord, what a forbidding coast.

The Folbot Yukon in action, a bit further north, on the northeast end of the island. This boat is so remarkably forgiving it may tempt you into trying things you ought not... in retrospect I can not recommend doing this kind (paddling from St. Philips on the Avalon peninsula to Bell Island and back) of thing alone, although I managed it somehow. I'm am now considerably more wary of how quickly conditions can change.

The general area, documented by one of my favorite toys.

I estimate these bluffs are every bit of 60 meters high. Note the sea cave shown in the following video.

*or video [Smile] The ceiling is probably 10 meters above the water.

I haven't figured out how to post a url which shows it in full screen - open for suggestions - thx.

And I trust you'll forgive the crappy cinematography, given the conditions; the moment you put the paddle down you start drifting north about 5 km/h.

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Welease Woderwick

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The photography course was fun; I was the oldest at 64 and the youngest was Sixth Standard so 10/11 [with a Nikon D3200] with a good mix of enthusiastic participants BUT some of them had obviously decided to take up photography as a hobby and had bought themselves expensive bits of kit but really had no idea how to use them - okay, sensible then to take a course and kudos for them for that but we're not talking entry level stuff here, we're talking semi-professional level stuff. Ah well, they can afford it but...

When I can get my head round it all I'll report back in greater depth.

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Hi

I am wanting a camera that could do general snaps but especially indoor, like after church shots. Not that bright then.

I am after easy to use shoot and go type, and easy to get onto website / Facebook.

Budget 100-200 pounds.

I'd really welcome suggestions or a pointer to a choice for camera simpletons.

Thanks
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Hi Clotilde!
You may want to check out some posts from earlier in this thread, starting here.

I think you may find information that will answer some of your questions!

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Welease Woderwick

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Hi Clotilde, I've been thinking about your question and I think there are many possibilities for you - I had a look on Amazon UK and Argos and their are loads in the price bracket.

The big question is whether to go for a real compact, slip in the pocket type or go for a Bridge type camera with a bigger lens which will be bulkier and heavier.

For inside shots a bigger lens [Bridge camera] may be helpful as it will gather more light but that may not be hugely significant. In your price range you are probably going to be dependent on built in flash, which is not as versatile as an attached flash gun, but a gun is additional bulk and weight. You probably won't need a massive zoom, and most cameras in the range will come with zoom - the pocket ones generally 3x or 5x.

Have a look around, if you have a specialist camera shop nearby go and ask their advice.

Otherwise have a look at the Amazon and Argos websites -and others if you can think of any]. Argos have a Nikon L27 at about 50 quid - I have used a Nikon L23 for a couple of years as my in pocket camera and have found it to be pretty good.

There tends to be a divide between Canon users and Nikon users, I have used and liked both but currently use a Fujifilm as my main camera. There are loads of good makes, it is quite a competitive market.

For a Bridge camera Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fujifilm and Panasonic all have some nice products on the market.

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Welease Woderwick

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I keep going to online shopping sites and looking at the camera I want but can't really afford at the moment - I am determined* to clear my credit card then pay cash for it when the time comes...

[Eek!]

...I reckon with a bit of belt-tightening on the non-essentials like food and clothes I might be able to give it to myself for Christmas.

[* well, sort of keen, erm, possibly]

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And now a question or two [or more]:

- Do those of you who have RAW find that you use RAW more than JPG?

- To use RAW & JPG at the same time seems a bit OTT at the moment but then I have never had the chance - opinions, please.

- I have Photoshop [CS4 Portable] and Corel Photopaint 12 so I am equipped. Should I get myself on to a Photoshop course or can anyone recommend an online course or is suck-it-and-see the best way to learn?

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I rarely shoot other than RAW+jpg. The disadvantages are storage space and delay between shots. If forced one or the other, I would shoot RAW only. It depends upon the situation really. If the lighting is not too harsh, is fairly consistent over the areas you will be shooting and temperatures are not mixed*, jpgs often suffice. I will say this; of the photographers I have worked with/encountered, I know of none who have gone from shooting raw to only jpg, but many who have gone from jpg only to RAW or RAW+jpg.
*Colours of light, not Celsius.

As to online courses, I have heard good things about the books by Scott Kelby. He offers online training as well.

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I use Raw and jpg. Nine times out of ten I don’t need to use the Raw files, which is nice, but sometimes they are really useful for the sort of tinkering you can’t do that easily in PS so I carry on taking them and mostly just delete them once I’ve generated a jpg from them as they take up huge amounts of space.

Be warned, Raw files can have a proprietary format specific to the camera manufacturer. I can’t work on mine in any other program than the software that came with my camera; in theory Photoshop should recognize my Canon Raw files but in practice it doesn’t.

With Photoshop, I never bothered with courses (and I particularly hate online video clips). It was a bit of a learning curve but you get there in the end. PS is essentially an industry-standard package which home users think they must have because everyone else has it, so it can be complex, but in practice it includes a lot of functions and filters you probably won’t ever use. A lot of people seem to like Lightroom which is more geared towards photos than producing print-quality stuff and is considerably less expensive. I think if it had been available back in the day when I first started all this, I'd probably have got that instead.

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I use this to convert raw. I am Nikon not Canon, but I checked, and it does cover a lot of Canon. I tend to use it rather than Gimp for a lot of the editing not just the conversion.

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I use this to convert raw. I am Nikon not Canon, but I checked, and it does cover a lot of Canon. I tend to use it rather than Gimp for a lot of the editing not just the conversion.

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I use this to convert raw. I am Nikon not Canon, but I checked, and it does cover a lot of Canon. I tend to use it rather than Gimp for a lot of the editing not just the conversion.

Jengie

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Jengie jon

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I use this to convert raw. I am Nikon not Canon, but I checked, and it does cover a lot of Canon. I tend to use it rather than Gimp for a lot of the editing not just the conversion.

Jengie

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Welease Woderwick

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I just realised I have GIMP as well [2.0], and even have some practice using it, so no problems on the software front - the information on RAW is really useful, thanks.

For GBP 21 or 22, or thereabouts, I can get this little set of 28 filters which will fit both my current and my future camera.

Hmmm, tempting but I think I may concentrate on getting the new camera first.

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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:


Be warned, Raw files can have a proprietary format specific to the camera manufacturer. I can’t work on mine in any other program than the software that came with my camera; in theory Photoshop should recognize my Canon Raw files but in practice it doesn’t.

I am going to guess that your camera is newer than your version of photoshop. Adobe quit supporting older versions in their Camera Raw updates when a new version is released. ( just thought, if this is it the case, have you tried updating Camera Raw?)
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As to Lightroom v. photoshop, they have a different emphasis. I did a quick search for a link, but those I found were either biased or not quite succinct.
Lightroom is for adjusting, Photoshop is for creating.
Simply put, if you want to "punch up" or touch up an image without significantly altering it, purchase Lightroom.
If you want to be able create a new image from the old, get Photoshop. Or similar. Photoshop will do most of what Lightroom can and so much more. But not everyone, amateur or professional, needs the extra tools.
Perhaps an overly simple explanation, just be careful of bias when searching for comparisons online.

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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I just realised I have GIMP as well [2.0], and even have some practice using it, so no problems on the software front - the information on RAW is really useful, thanks.

For GBP 21 or 22, or thereabouts, I can get this little set of 28 filters which will fit both my current and my future camera.

Hmmm, tempting but I think I may concentrate on getting the new camera first.

Those are brilliant, WW! I need to update my filter collection as well.

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Comes to exude smugness.

Having fallen out of Flickr, coincidentally when it changed, but really because I was so busy, I went back in at the beginning of the month, and this one has over 6,500 views (and hit Explore).

I w*rk out near here some of the time, so I have had quite a few goes at getting a shot with this building. And it has been straightened and a bit of a car removed from the bottom left corner, so no, it's not a perfect shot, it's been GIMPed.

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Welease Woderwick

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Nicely done - the colours on the people [yellow brolly, baby blue shoes and flash of red shirt] give a nice finish.

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Brilliant, CK. Funny, though, my script blocker was on and I only saw above the bricks, so WW's comments left me a bit [Confused] until I allowed flickr.

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Welease Woderwick

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I've just had an invite to join Dropbox. Do any of you know enough about it to say whether or not it's a good replacement for Flickr?

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I use it to share work documents ~ you have to list the people yo are sharing with.

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Our Camera Club uses Dropbox to store our competition entries, and I have also personally used Dropbox folders to send a large number of pictures to someone else.
You can control who can have access to which folder, so I have my own folders, to whcih i gave access to the person I wanted to see my pictures and has a certain size limit - and i have access to the Camera Club folder, but that doesn't come out of my personal allocation


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quote:
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I use it to share work documents ~ you have to list the people yo are sharing with.

You can create a link to a shared folder and simply send the link. No lists necessary.

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I am getting close to splashing out on my new camera - Fujifilm hs50EXR - and am wondering about memory cards - I currently run a few 8GB cards but if I am running RAW+JPG how long will they last? Am I better getting myself a 32GB?

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I'd say that looks quite good, Wodders, but I'd be taking out of my elbow. I did think that it was insanely expensive, then twigged it was in rupees!

A nice turn up for the books here - the university photographic society studio class will be running at a weekend this term , so those of us who w**k will be able to get to it. I've also just realised that I have an f1.2 lens which will be ideal for portraiture as it's so wide that close-up the background will just vanish. An expensive weekend, as I've only got a film camera to mount it on, but I've never been much cop with people pics so I'm really looking forward to getting some guidance and experience (and getting in the darkroom!).

This is the brute concerned - you do not want to drop it in your toes, and if you were to put it on a modern DSLR it would probably weigh more than the camera. As for the cost... I found it in a drawer!

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Wod - if you get the 32GB you won't have to worry about space if you take a lot of photos. With RAW files taking up about 20MB each plus the Jpegs, you can quite easily use a lot of space without realizing it. I have a 32 and it suits me fine. Keep your 8s for backup memory cards.


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I've also just realised that I have an f1.2 lens which will be ideal for portraiture as it's so wide that close-up the background will just vanish.

Thank you for that useful tip.

I've got back into night photography - it seems to be turning into my own personal "Get Pushed" challenge, but finding time to do daylight photgraphy at this time of year (during the working week) is a challenge in itself. Enjoying it a lot, except when my fingers go numb.

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Soory, should have chosen a UK or US link - one British Pound is roughly 100 rupees, which is very convenient for my little brain.

I will probably buy from a shop rather than online - one shop offered me a deal of Rs 29,000 so that this only four quid more and I get it THEN and not have to wait for it to be delivered. Sadly the good shop with the wonderful service doesn't have it in their line up at the moment so it looks like they have lost the sale.

Thanks for the SD Card advice, I think I'll order a 32GB online tonight even if I haven't got the camera yet. Should I buy it on credit card on Tuesday so I can take it wild elephant spotting on Wednesday/Thursday?

Decisions, decisions.

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Looks like a great camera.

Seems like pretty much 'pro's' here. If I can ad a 'tip of the day' for the average fellow with the average camera; Shooting from the train--use your Sport Setting.
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I'm glad this thread resurfaced as I'm running out of 2013... this (how could you make it up) is the Equality House east just across the street as seen from the sidewalk on the northeast corner of the compound that is Westboro Baptist Church.

I thought the rainbow colors proved a bit of a challenge for the Olympus TG-2: nonetheless, it was with me during my brief visit to Topeka.

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WW,

The minimum card I will purchase for a camera is 32GB. And I have filled that in one outing.

moron,

I love that house for where it is and would like to book a flight just to give the owners a hug.

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32 GB cards [Class 10] in The Big City were uniformly half as much again as they are online so now I'm waiting for the courier to call. Whilst I am still on my current .jpg only camera that will give me a capacity of at least 5,000 shots per card which should be enough for an overnight trip to see wild elephants in the jungle even if I throw in a little bit of video.

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I treated myself yesterday, and went to the student photographic society studio class. I shot far fewer photos than I'd expected (I still have 9 1/2 rolls of HP5 to go before I finish the brick!), but still had great fun and, I hope, learnt a lot.

I'm beginning to despair of getting film scanning right, but I've blown a huge £2.50 on some non-reflective glass from Hobbycraft and, if I can cut it myself without severing anything too important, that should at least solve the film flatness problem.

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There has been a protest on Flickr today against another change to the format that's about to be imposed. My stream is full of protest photos.

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I left Flickr over the previous one. What's the latest?

I really dislike "endless scrolling". FB does it, Google does it, other sites probably do it too, it's not user-friendly or fun.

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Explanation of the protest. I got lumbered with the beta for a bit - the last change didn't bother me too much, this one did.

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I don'’t think that would bother me as much as the endless scrolling – which made loading very slow on my computer – and the fact that for whatever reason a lot of photos seem to display at thumbnail size when clicked on. But altogether not a huge success and I wish they’d left it as it was.
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Oh, you still get the endless scrolling, you also lose a lot of other things too - like comments and knowing who has favourited a picture, and being able to comment easily on pictures ...

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Flickr is driving me right batty! I'm trying to upload a large batch of pictures from each month, so that while at the in-laws over Christmas, if there's time, I can have fun working on my 2013 Yearbook. It's uploading some photos not at all, some photos 2 or 3 times and sometimes when it looks like a photo is duplicated, when I delete it, the photo disappears entirely off the site! I think I'm finally being driven to find other hosting venues....

On a less ranty note, Merry Christmas for all who celebrate, and happy holiday shooting.
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That's a great shot!

I still haven't found a real, workable alternative to Flickr - anyone any ideas?


eta: I still haven't got my new camera, every time I get near to having the money something else more urgent comes up so I am thinking that the time is getting close to making an online purchase by credit card and worry about paying it off later. I have a big milestone anniversary in January - a Silver Jubilee one! I'm sure you'll agree that this is an appropriate way to celebrate.

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quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I still haven't found a real, workable alternative to Flickr - anyone any ideas?

A friend of mine suggested Pbase where I currently have a free trial account. It lasts 30 days and I need to decide by tomorrow whether I want to pay for a year's subscription or not. It starts at US $23 for 1000 MB. The interface is a bit basic but the photos display well - no endless scrolling and the colour reproduction is true.
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Several people have suggested Smugmug, or 500px, as alternatives, though I wasn't keen on 500px - for a start it seems to want you to sign up using social media before it tells you anything about itself! So far, I'm wondering about going for either Smugmug or Phanfare.
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Got up this morning thinking that today might well be the day I order the new camera only to find that Amazon India have put the price up overnight!

I'll wait until it comes down again.

The happy news is that the filter set I talked about a while ago has come down in price to just UKP18 for 28 pieces!

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Price down today, even lower than it was the other day - order placed, credit card payment made - now I have to wait!

I've ordered the filter set as well.

Can I get excited now, please?


eta: I'm so glad I keep a [very cryptic] list of passwords in my address book - it will only make sense to me but at least it DOES make sense to me.

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I am excited for you, WW!

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