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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Karl, you do realise that you just proved Ariston's point about elevating obsessive attention to boring things to an art form, don't you?
I've always put that down to ASD tendencies rather than being British.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by Bob Two-Owls:
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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
Petrol in litres, distances in miles...
I think it very British to measure in metric and then convert to imperial mentally. Almost everyone I know puts litres in their car but bitches about the price per gallon. They always ask me how far a 10km hike is in miles. I always work out grams into pounds and ounces or if in the sweet shop, a hundred grams is always referred to as a quarter of jelly babies.
I thought this might pass with the next generations but my scouts still carry on the tradition of bimetricality and most of them were born in the C21st.
Yes. As in "According to the OS map Scafell Pike is 910 meters - that's 3,210'", or "map shows it's 7 kilometers to the camp site - that's about 4 miles."
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Jane R
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Well, thanks to the "Metric Martyrs" and their ilk there are generations of people who were *taught* the metric system at school but grew up in an environment where everyone else used imperial measures, with the result that we don't actually have a proper sense of how big or heavy something is until we convert to imperial. I am 1.67 metres tall, but that means nothing to me until I convert it to feet and inches.
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On units, we tend to use Centigrade when it is cold: "Minus 5, brrrrr!" and Fahrenheit when it is hot "80 degrees, phew what a scorcher!"
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Sipech
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Bob Two-Owls:
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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
Petrol in litres, distances in miles...
I think it very British to measure in metric and then convert to imperial mentally. Almost everyone I know puts litres in their car but bitches about the price per gallon. They always ask me how far a 10km hike is in miles. I always work out grams into pounds and ounces or if in the sweet shop, a hundred grams is always referred to as a quarter of jelly babies.
I thought this might pass with the next generations but my scouts still carry on the tradition of bimetricality and most of them were born in the C21st.
Yes. As in "According to the OS map Scafell Pike is 910 meters - that's 3,210'", or "map shows it's 7 kilometers to the camp site - that's about 4 miles."
Weights are another funny area. I always think of weight in terms of stone. If someone gives a weight in pounds, I'm always trying to work it out by trying to divide by 14 and 16, sure that it's one or the other but unsure as to which one.
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Originally posted by David:
Losing at sport.
Except forms of sport which involve sitting down, or which nobody watches until we get a medal (what was the snowboarding thing again?)
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Obviously, an important British value is chips, the national dish.
I thought it was Chicken Tikka Masala now?
One may eat Chicken Tikka Masala with chips. In South Wales, "curry" is often eaten with "Half-n-half", rice and chips.
Okay, that is definitely one of those questionable "disgusting food combinations."
You do know that by "chips" we mean what you colonials wrongly refer to as "fries", don't you?
Yes, of course. I have spent significant time in London. Malt vinegar, yes; curry... no.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by GCabot:
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by GCabot:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by HCH:
Obviously, an important British value is chips, the national dish.
I thought it was Chicken Tikka Masala now?
One may eat Chicken Tikka Masala with chips. In South Wales, "curry" is often eaten with "Half-n-half", rice and chips.
Okay, that is definitely one of those questionable "disgusting food combinations."
You do know that by "chips" we mean what you colonials wrongly refer to as "fries", don't you?
Yes, of course. I have spent significant time in London. Malt vinegar, yes; curry... no.
This is so, so, wrong. The finest accompaniment to chips is yellow chip-shop curry sauce; around these parts gravy is favoured, but I'm a mushy pea and curry sauce man. It is from there a short hop to curry with chips.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by Gill H:
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Originally posted by David:
Losing at sport.
Except forms of sport which involve sitting down, or which nobody watches until we get a medal (what was the snowboarding thing again?)
It's not so much losing at sport that is distinctively British; there are I don't know how many teams in the World Cup, but only one will win; every other country will also lose along with Ingerland. The British factor is naively believing that we will win and at the same time knowing we won't - "this tims, lads, this time. And when we reach the final, not if, when..." ad nauseam. So we, or rather the people who give a pair of dingoes' kidneys about this stuff, go on and on about who the key man is, or who's going to be the biggest barrier to getting through to the Wimbledon (please God bear me through this oncoming trial) final, always with the promise that he/she/they might actually do it, knowing at the same time that they won't.
And in the case of football, it's the mistaken belief that everybody else cares about it as much as you do...
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by GCabot:
<snip> Yes, of course. I have spent significant time in London. Malt vinegar, yes; curry... no.
You do realise that London is as typically British as Disneyworld is typically American?
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Jane R:
Karl, you do realise that you just proved Ariston's point about elevating obsessive attention to boring things to an art form, don't you?
I've always put that down to ASD tendencies rather than being British.
Same thing, isn't it? ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by GCabot:
<snip> Yes, of course. I have spent significant time in London. Malt vinegar, yes; curry... no.
You do realise that London is as typically British as Disneyworld is typically American?
Indeed. They traditionally eat jellied eels there, which most of the rest of the country considers ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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The Pastor and one of the elders at our church are particularly irritated by the use of British values by which they infer Christian values. I am not so sure; the secular values of equal rights for all regardless of race/nationality, gender, sexuality and belief are probably closer to the mark. Of course, as a nation, we rarely live up to these ideals but they are aspirations which most people would say we should aim for, even though we so often fall badly short of the mark.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by David:
Losing at sport.
No matches lost since the war.
You, sir, are a knocker.
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GCabot
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by GCabot:
<snip> Yes, of course. I have spent significant time in London. Malt vinegar, yes; curry... no.
You do realise that London is as typically British as Disneyworld is typically American?
You mean Disney World is not an accurate microcosm of the U.S.?
I traveled outside London as well. I was not impressed.
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I traveled outside London as well. I was not impressed.
In that case I'll take the next arduous flight you have to make to England for you.
No, really, I insist.
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Jengie jon
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Jane R:
Karl, you do realise that you just proved Ariston's point about elevating obsessive attention to boring things to an art form, don't you?
I've always put that down to ASD tendencies rather than being British.
Then this is minutiae about alcoholic beverage, something that Ariston has demonstrated quite an ability to post himself.
As to trainspotting, well it is not my fetish, but I put it down as the stamp collecting form of public transport fanaticism. There are others, the public transport history-nerd, the transport steam punk person and the train travel geography geek whose real interest is taking interesting journeys.
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Ariel
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Tomato sauce, and it needs to be a particular well-known brand, is the best with chips. As it is also with a hot bacon roll eaten in the open air on the way to work.
Chips with tomato sauce out of a paper packet evoke memories of autumn evenings at fairgrounds, with bright lights flashing, loud music pounding, lots of glitter and all the excitement of the fair, as you briefly attempt to spear your chip with a stupid little wooden fork before just picking it up and eating it. They remind me also of strolls along the seafront, with the sea breeze active in your hair, and large fat seagulls perched nearby eyeing the packet up as you dip your fingers in and wince slightly at the heat.
Chips are also that impulse buy at the railway station when you have less than 10 minutes left to get your train, and guarantee you a seat by yourself for the duration of the journey, as you lick the salt and tomato sauce off your fingers. They are also that other impulse buy on a bitter winter's night as you head home, tired and hungry, with the stars burning holes in a dark sky and the cold air tingling your skin, but with a greasy, hot, redolent packet of chips clutched firmly to your chest and keeping your hands warm; no cooking tonight and a hot meal when you get in.
No, there's nothing like the true British tradition of chips, preferably with tomato sauce, and either a piece of fish in batter or a sausage to go with it; who could ask for more.
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Swearing. Brits are remarkably good at swearing. They also seem to tolerate it more than other cultures I've come across. (Although I have to bow to the late, great swearer that was Erin).
And here I've written a post about swearing with nary a naughty word.
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Penny S
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You mean your chippie supplies branded tomato sauce? And not in those teeny tiny sachets which provide enough sauce for a couple of chips? And do beware of non-brewed condiment aka acetic acid not derived from the fermentation of malt. Visitors to the UK would be better off buying their own vinegar and applying it themselves outside the shop.
And if you know your teacup, and your leaf tea, and your teapot, you know how much milk to put in first.
You do realise that these petty arguments are the way the giant lizards keep us from noticing what is really going on, don't you?
Or at least the boarding school educated men with unresolved problems with the breaking of attachment with place and parents too early.
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Tomato sauce, and it needs to be a particular well-known brand, is the best with chips. As it is also with a hot bacon roll eaten in the open air on the way to work. .
Tomato ketchup is only suitable for children. I admit to a strange fondness for mayonnaise on chips, an unfortunate result of time in Brussels, but otherwise it's malt vinegar or chip-shop curry sauce (tasting like no known curry in the universe) on the way home from a night in the pub...
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Penny S
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Tomato ketchup is rich in lycopenes, which are good for you.
Must admit to tartare sauce, usually, and sometimes that well known manufacturers salad cream - haven't tried mayonnaise.
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Tomato ketchup is only suitable for children.
Children of all ages, that is. It would be a sad day if anyone declared themselves to be 'too old for ketchup'.
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Blech - I hate ketchup. Revoltingly sweet. I like mayo, tartar sauce or Belgian style frite sauces with my chips, or gravy. Chips are tasty with curry though.
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Ariel
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Actually, I'm partial to lemon on my fish and chips. A lot of it.
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Jane R
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I traveled outside London as well. I was not impressed.
You went to Slough and Milton Keynes, didn't you. Someone should have warned you.
You obviously didn't visit Bath, Winchester, York, Norwich (well that one is a bit out on a limb) or any part of Hadrian's Wall.
(note for any other American shipmates contemplating a visit: Stratford-on-Avon is a giant car park attached to the tackiest tourist trap this side of the Atlantic. Go to Warwick Castle instead if you're in that area, it's much more interesting; or if you want to see Shakesperean theatre in something approaching its original setting, go to the Globe ).
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Penny S
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Or, if you are in that direction, try the new tarted up Dover Castle and, referring to your copy of Thomas Malory, ask them why they haven't re-instated Gawaine's head, which they were showing to tourists in his day. (This is something I've wanted to do since I lived down the hill, but never had the chutzpah to do.)
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Then this is minutiae about alcoholic beverage, something that Ariston has demonstrated quite an ability to post himself.
Where d'ya think I learned it? Here in the States, where making a to do about beer serving temperature is a sign to turn around and walk out (your bar's too precious for words; a good one just does it); where decanting everyday red wine, or at least giving it 15 minutes to breathe after opening, gets you funny looks; and malt whisky is something reserved for the lawyers and bankers, rather than on the speed dispenser on the back wall; and nobody but nobody (well, almost nobody) knows what sherry or port are?
Didn't think so.
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Originally posted by David:
Losing at sport.
I was not born in Britain, but I am a Spurs supporter. I understand that!
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Originally posted by TheAlethiophile:
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Weights are another funny area. I always think of weight in terms of stone. If someone gives a weight in pounds, I'm always trying to work it out by trying to divide by 14 and 16, sure that it's one or the other but unsure as to which one.
I am a wee bit less than 14 stone and I am five foot ten inches tall!
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(note for any other American shipmates contemplating a visit: Stratford-on-Avon is a giant car park attached to the tackiest tourist trap this side of the Atlantic. Go to Warwick Castle instead if you're in that area, it's much more interesting
Ah, another "I went to Stratford on Avon once on a day trip and didn't like it" poster.
I'm often in Stratford. It has its tourist traps – although I actually like the Shakespearean properties - but it also has quirky, less obvious charms. The pleasing little inscriptions on some of the pavements, the memorials to actors in various places along the waterfront, and the collection of sometimes idiosyncratic lampposts donated by towns and other countries, dotted throughout the town; the museum of mechanical art and design (with interactive exhibits), the Creaky Cauldron, where you can buy your pagan spells in a bag; lots of tiny antiques shops, and the all-year-round Christmas shop; one of the country's best tea-shops with an amazing range of cakes, and Paxton & Whitfield for interesting, redolent cheeses; good places to have lunch; a really good farmers' market and arts & crafts market at the weekend; the boat trips up the Avon in a boat that's a century old and still in excellent condition; the pleasure of spotting famous actors on the street or in the supermarket, and more. The place is usually full of life and the people are friendly.
Warwick Castle, on the other hand, is a total theme park that costs you £30.60 just to get in. The town itself is more interesting with some hidden gems; I'd recommend not bothering with the Castle.
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Jane R
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I think we'll have to agree to differ... but I've been to both Warwick and Stratford more than once. My opinion of Warwick Castle may be skewed by the fact that it didn't cost me anything (I just flashed my Historic Scotland card at them and they let me in free of charge).
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Originally posted by Ariston:
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Then this is minutiae about alcoholic beverage, something that Ariston has demonstrated quite an ability to post himself.
Where d'ya think I learned it? Here in the States, where making a to do about beer serving temperature is a sign to turn around and walk out (your bar's too precious for words; a good one just does it); where decanting everyday red wine, or at least giving it 15 minutes to breathe after opening, gets you funny looks; and malt whisky is something reserved for the lawyers and bankers, rather than on the speed dispenser on the back wall; and nobody but nobody (well, almost nobody) knows what sherry or port are?
Didn't think so.
My whole point was such information is not boring to you, regardless of where you got.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Minutiae? Minutiae? The difference between 8C and 12C is the difference between a crap pint and a classic one.
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Jane R
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Most people would agree that four degrees Celsius is a non-trivial difference in temperature.
The question is how much of a fuss you make about it, and on the whole it is considered very un-British to cause a scene and insist on having your pint heated to the right temperature. Far better to take one sip, make a face and then put the glass down at your elbow, muttering imprecations (just loud enough for the bar staff to hear, but not loud enough that they can assume the remarks are directly addressed to them), wait until it's warmed up to an acceptable temperature before finishing your drink, and never darken the doors of that bar again.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Well yes. And if it's styled a "bar" rather than a "pub", the chances of a crap pint are that much higher.
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Most people would agree that four degrees Celsius is a non-trivial difference in temperature.
Oh no. 4 degrees is the difference between a pleasantly warm 18 degrees spring day and an unbearably sweltering 22 degrees.
The former is ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
The latter is as hot as ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Most people would agree that four degrees Celsius is a non-trivial difference in temperature.
Oh no. 4 degrees is the difference between a pleasantly warm 18 degrees spring day and an unbearably sweltering 22 degrees.
The former is
The latter is as hot as
Since when is 18 degrees C warm? Or 22 degrees anything other than pleasantly chill?
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YMMV. 64° (18 Centigrade) is still jacket and pullover weather; 71° (22 in metric) is more bearable, and when you can leave either the jacket or the pullover off but may need to keep one handy if a breeze springs up.
It doesn't really get very warm in this country very often - summers are usually just on the chilly side.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by TheAlethiophile:
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Originally posted by Jane R:
Most people would agree that four degrees Celsius is a non-trivial difference in temperature.
Oh no. 4 degrees is the difference between a pleasantly warm 18 degrees spring day and an unbearably sweltering 22 degrees.
The former is
The latter is as hot as
Since when is 18 degrees C warm? Or 22 degrees anything other than pleasantly chill?
I'm with the Alethiophile. Above 24C the problem is one can no longer remove further items of clothing and remain unarrested, and one is still too damned hot. 16C-20C is comfortable.
I have never understood why people, in the middle of summer when it's already too hot here, go to places that are even hotter.
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It depends entirely on what you are used to. As a child I lived in North Africa for two years. The average daytime high temperature for the hottest six months of the year was into the high 80s and we had many days over 100F. You get to recognise a day when body temperature is cooler than air temperature and it isn't nice.
I can't handle that kind of heat so easily now, but I don't find the British weather, with occasional days over 85F and just the one memorable day of 100F too bad. The Mediterranean is hotter but a sea breeze makes anywhere better than a summer day in London, which is like an oven, except that it smells much worse.
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
Saying sorry when it isn't your fault e.g. when someone bumps into you.
Not at all, dear boy. That's Canadian.
I'd go with fairness, politeness, slight reticence, a healthy appreciation of tradition and support for the underdog.
And tea, obviously. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
eta: I'm with the Alethiophile:
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... 4 degrees is the difference between a pleasantly warm 18 degrees spring day and an unbearably sweltering 22 degrees.
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Piglet
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Apologies for double-post, but I just saw this and had to reply:
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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
But will Scotland change to driving on the right after the referendum?
If that idiot Salmond has his way they'll probably do it in stages: lorries, buses and commercial vehicles first.
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Jane R
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The Alethiophile: quote:
Oh no. 4 degrees is the difference between a pleasantly warm 18 degrees spring day and an unbearably sweltering 22 degrees.
I think you may have misinterpreted my original statement.
Here it is again:
Most people would agree that four degrees Celsius is a non- trivial difference in temperature.
Non-trivial = the opposite of trivial.
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Matt Black
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British values re food are summed up by complaining about having to eat 'foreign muck' whilst 'abroad' but insisting on tucking into a chicken tikka masala (Bangladeshi-Scottish), spag bol (Anglo-Italian), shepherd's pie (Russian) or fish'n'chips (Jewish) when at home...
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by piglet:
Apologies for double-post, but I just saw this and had to reply:
quote:
Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
But will Scotland change to driving on the right after the referendum?
If that idiot Salmond has his way they'll probably do it in stages: lorries, buses and commercial vehicles first.
They've made a start with the Embra trams.
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British = euphemism to avoid 'unpleasantness':
For example, shoplifting = theft; joyriding = aggravated car theft.
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Twilight
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A few British values from an American's viewpoint.
Putting milk in tea at all. Fussing about when to do it.
Self-deprecation, or as I like to call it "Hugh Grant."
Saying "whinge," instead of whine.
Not whinging. The greater the disaster, the more points for not whinging.
Disdain for people who whinge.
"Keeping oneself to oneself." Said with admiration by fellow British when an American might say, "What the hell's the matter with him?" It's the opposite of "Very friendly," one of the highest American virtues, which might be described by the British as, "Pushing in."
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Oh yes. Being pushy is so very wrong. Keep a certain distance; only get involved if absolutely necessary and there is no-one else. It goes like this:
"Errrr. Excuse me. I'm terribly sorry to intrude but I couldn't help noticing that you've just been run over by a bus. If you would like - and as long as I am not interfering - I could possibly call for an ambulance. And whilst we are waiting, would you like me to get your legs back from over there. I am sure the doctors will be able to do something with them."
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