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Zappa
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I would nominate the Epistles, especially those of St Paul
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Would there be a problem without the Epistles?
Actually, there would. The NT would be very short indeed and a lot of preachers wouldn't have a scriptural basis for their sermons, homilies and talks. Come to think of it, there wouldn't be a scriptural basis for a lot of our preachers, but would that be so bad if we had no more than:

- All the scripture Christ had
- The accounts of His life, death and resurrection
- The adventures of the early church
- The hippy-trip that is the Revelation of St John?

And we could all keep on shagging our step-mothers. Or our mothers. Or who ever it was that the directionless unholier than thou Corinthian enthusiasts were getting their ends away with.

[ 22. June 2014, 17:40: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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CL
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:

Does raising questions about the Second Coming, or the Virgin Birth (or whatever), really place me and others outside the Christian faith?

No, of course it doesn't. Bible study is all about asking questions.
Yes, yes it does.
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South Coast Kevin
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Citation needed, CL, if you'd be so kind. On what basis do you believe that asking questions or having doubts about elements of Christian doctrine makes one a non-Christian?

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Martin60
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Which catechism do you use CL?

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Alan Cresswell

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quote:
Originally posted by CL:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:

Does raising questions about the Second Coming, or the Virgin Birth (or whatever), really place me and others outside the Christian faith?

No, of course it doesn't. Bible study is all about asking questions.
Yes, yes it does.
I would say that not asking questions places one outside the Christian faith. We are called to grow, to mature, to bear fruit. How do you grow in the faith without asking questions, without trying things out, without pushing boundaries? We are not called to bury our faith in the ground where it doesn't even earn interest.

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote:
Originally posted by CL:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:

Does raising questions about the Second Coming, or the Virgin Birth (or whatever), really place me and others outside the Christian faith?

No, of course it doesn't. Bible study is all about asking questions.
Yes, yes it does.
quote:
O’Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended.
‘How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?’
‘Four.’
‘And if the party says that it is not four but five — then how many?’
‘Four.’
The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston’s body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O’Brien watched him, the four fingers still extended. He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.
‘How many fingers, Winston?’
‘Four.’
The needle went up to sixty.
‘How many fingers, Winston?’
‘Four! Four! What else can I say? Four!’
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‘How can I help it?’ he blubbered. ‘How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.’
‘Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.’



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